http://www.osnews.com/story/11422/Tutorials_on_WonderBrush_and_im_kit Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 20 May 2013 09:05:56 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread?12089 http://www.osnews.com/thread?12089 Ha, Dutch is spoken be a few million humans, that's nothing on a world scale. But in OS land, we still count :-)

Ontopic: obviously beos is still living. Kudo's for the developers! Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (evert) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?12105 http://www.osnews.com/thread?12105 Yup. Shows localisation in an OS is often the result of a tiny amount of enthiousastic individuals. If you have a few nuts that are willing to do a bit of work, it will be done.

That also reminds me: I absolutely hate reading tutorials/help files in my native dutch. I suddenly have to mentally switch terms from english (most experience with) to dutch. Often forecfully translated words are awkward.

The Wonderbrush tutorial is informative, but short. That's either a good or a bad thing depending on how you look at it

The IM_Kit tutorial...wow. Didn't know IMing was in such an advanced state on the BeOS. Smileys look good, although it's a bit odd they're skewed. Quite helpful, might give it a go soon. Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Ronald Vos) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?12106 http://www.osnews.com/thread?12106 I was dying for a tutorial like the one on im_kit. The most recently released alpha is *old* and *buggy*, and therefor having a new build available + instructions, makes my BeOS experience a lot easier .

But, yeah, I'll probably be using the English version too, instead of the for me native Dutch version. Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?12122 http://www.osnews.com/thread?12122 That also reminds me: I absolutely hate reading tutorials/help files in my native dutch. I suddenly have to mentally switch terms from english (most experience with) to dutch. Often forecfully translated words are awkward.

Ditto, but are you sure it's in Dutch ? Looking at the terminology used : uptodate, downloads, libraries, backup, ... ;-)

Localisation is great for more non-geek types though. Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tyr.) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?12161 http://www.osnews.com/thread?12161 offtopic: Just think about africa and localization. For example the bantu languages are spoken by about 60 milion people. Each language in that family has aobut 1 to 2 milion native speakers. So how many african localizations do you know about? Mon, 01 Aug 2005 17:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?12224 http://www.osnews.com/thread?12224 Is IMKit still adding all the contacts you've deleted before to your MSN messenger account? Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gmiranda) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?12232 http://www.osnews.com/thread?12232 Is IMKit still adding all the contacts you've deleted before to your MSN messenger account?

Sadly, yes. Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?12305 http://www.osnews.com/thread?12305 "That also reminds me: I absolutely hate reading tutorials/help files in my native dutch. I suddenly have to mentally switch terms from english (most experience with) to dutch. Often forecfully translated words are awkward.

Ditto, but are you sure it's in Dutch ? Looking at the terminology used : uptodate, downloads, libraries, backup, ... ;-)
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Ha, halfway the nineties a scientist once wrote a semi-serious article analyzing the occurences of English words in Dutch texts. Extrapolating the graph, he predicted that around the year 2000, Dutch would be written as Double English instead of Double Dutch. :-) Mon, 01 Aug 2005 21:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?12360 http://www.osnews.com/thread?12360 "offtopic: Just think about africa and localization. For example the bantu languages are spoken by about 60 milion people. Each language in that family has aobut 1 to 2 milion native speakers. So how many african localizations do you know about?"

Well, ok, but realistically, how many of the 60 Million Africans own a computer?

Also, I imagine that Dutch is spoken by more than the 16 million in the country itself, since it's also spoken by many in Suriname, the Carribean, Indonesia, and some African countries as well. Mon, 01 Aug 2005 22:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?12400 http://www.osnews.com/thread?12400 The official count is that there are slightly about 20 million dutch speakers in the world. But this is getting really off-topic.

On-topic: Does anyone happen to know if there's a way to import history files into im_kit? Does it support recording history/chatlogs at all? Mon, 01 Aug 2005 23:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Ronald Vos) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?12577 http://www.osnews.com/thread?12577 The server crashes on my ZETA installation and when it doesn't crash I cannot find MSN at all... Tue, 02 Aug 2005 08:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?12797 http://www.osnews.com/thread?12797 Make sure you deleted the previous installation manually. Otherwise a new install won't work and results in crashes!

Works very nice.
You can even make a link to a people's contact to the desktop and that will be updated with the colour of the online status...neat!!!

Now I hope the messages of InfoPopper get a look&feel overhaul because I think its quite ugly, but kudo's to the developers! Tue, 02 Aug 2005 17:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?12857 http://www.osnews.com/thread?12857 By using (and saving) a BeOS query for filetype: Person based on attribute values of
IM Status "is" Available [OR]
IM Status "is" Away

you can make a Tracker based buddy list.
You then can save the query to your desktop or BeMenu as "Online Contacts" or whatever you want.

note: since BeOS's (and consequently Zeta's) queries are live, they are automatically updated when a contact changes IM Status.

enjoy! Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments