http://www.osnews.com/story/11684/OSNews_ Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:51:43 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?23143 http://osnews.com/thread?23143 Thank you. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (orestes) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23144 http://osnews.com/thread?23144 Ok someone has to start, let's see if threading works so please feel free to reply. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23145 http://osnews.com/thread?23145 testing123 Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DittoBox) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23146 http://osnews.com/thread?23146 Does it work ? Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23147 http://osnews.com/thread?23147 Yes, it works just fine. It does take a little getting used to the collapsed appearance though. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (orestes) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23150 http://osnews.com/thread?23150 I prefer expanded. Does indeed look very nice though, thanks a ton OS New! This site just keeps getting better and better. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DittoBox) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23151 http://osnews.com/thread?23151 [FreeBSD mindset]
Can we cvsup to 3.1 then?
[/FreeBSD mindset]

;) Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ulib) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23153 http://osnews.com/thread?23153 Let's see how far it will indent before auto-collapsing!

Also, let's see if they ever implement LiveJournal-style inline comment boxes (I've been meaning to implement that in my code, as well) ... Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Beryllium) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23154 http://osnews.com/thread?23154 Expanded is also more my cup of tea. Slashdot's way of collapsing all but the highest-rated ones is neat, but only really applicable on highly contentious and commented-on articles ... Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Beryllium) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23156 http://osnews.com/thread?23156 Is this a bug? I see a 'more' link but the comment_id parameter is blank, which apparently causes it to be redirected to index.php ... possibly the proper variable name isn't being used?

Is there a cvsweb-style viewer for the OSNews source code so I can take a peek? Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Beryllium) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23158 http://osnews.com/thread?23158 It's fixed. Sorry about that. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23160 http://osnews.com/thread?23160 Oh, weird; it looks like it was outputting the "More" link when it reached the maximum level of nesting, but that it wasn't putting an ID in because no comments existed below that level. Once I posted the above comment, either the bug was fixed or the code added the proper comment_id to the 'more' link ...

In other words, looks like an off-by-one error. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Beryllium) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23161 http://osnews.com/thread?23161 It seems that the 'more' link pops up before it is actually needed. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (orestes) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23162 http://osnews.com/thread?23162 Am I missing something? Are threaded views supposed to be active right now? or no? Because all I can see is the standrd flat view..... Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Wintermute) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23163 http://osnews.com/thread?23163 It seems that after I've posted to a "thread" I can't vote any comments thereunder up or down. They're greyed out just like they are for my own comments, but *not* like those from moderators where it actually says that they're a mod/admin.

My setting is set to "expanded". Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DittoBox) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23164 http://osnews.com/thread?23164 Ah, thanks. Is the "More" link supposed to contain the entire subtree starting from the node that links to it? All I'm seeing is a single comment.

Hope you don't mind my poking holes Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Beryllium) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23166 http://osnews.com/thread?23166 hmmm. try now. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23167 http://osnews.com/thread?23167 Kudos to the OSNews people, threading is very cool.

The only thing that (IMHO) isn't the best is the "more..." thing. What about something like showing the exceeding comments all aligned to the last level of indentation?
Or maybe the "more" thing is made on purpose, to discourage from making the threads too long. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ulib) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23168 http://osnews.com/thread?23168 You have to select it in your preferences. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Beryllium) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23169 http://osnews.com/thread?23169 In expanded view it still doens't work.

And it seems if I go to a specific comment (even my own, see link below) I can then vote up or down on them.

http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=11684&comment_id=23... Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DittoBox) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23170 http://osnews.com/thread?23170 It also appears that the nesting goes four deep, then the 'more' link takes you only to the fifth reply and it's parent. The sixth reply shows up back on the main page and we start the nesting again. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (orestes) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23171 http://osnews.com/thread?23171 Thanks, already found out about it.

I guess I am too used slash. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Wintermute) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23173 http://osnews.com/thread?23173 More is only showing one sub-comment, and not the whole sub-tree. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Beryllium) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23176 http://osnews.com/thread?23176 Threading is very nice indeed!

The more thing is useful: it keeps the comments from being cluttered. Also, I'd suggest to show in some way how many more comments are hidden by this "more". Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (boily) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23177 http://osnews.com/thread?23177 How about an option to disable the password requirement every time you edit your preferences? Or is that not possible?

And perhaps we could have a link to http://www.osnews.com/topic.php

on the main page, it can take several clicks to understand what a topic icon stands for (since mouse-hover simply gives "read similar articles..."

Anyway, keep up the good job guys! Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Wintermute) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23179 http://osnews.com/thread?23179 Ok, it should work now, I was able to replicate it. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23180 http://osnews.com/thread?23180 Ha ha! I fixed that yesterday! I just haven't implemented it. Hovering over a topic should be available very soon.

Edit by AS: Scratch that, I just activated it. It should be available within a few minutes, when the cache next refreshes. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23181 http://osnews.com/thread?23181 ++ is used for adding 1 not 0.1, suxx0r LMFAO n00b Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23186 http://osnews.com/thread?23186 yes it does Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23187 http://osnews.com/thread?23187 I just switched to threaded (expanded) view, and noticed this at the top of the page (right above the "Post a new comment" box, right justified).

Parse error: parse error in /home/osnews/web/storybox.tmpl.php on line 169 Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (will) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23189 http://osnews.com/thread?23189 Everyone knows what ++ means. It's a joke. Have a freakin' sense of humor. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23194 http://osnews.com/thread?23194 Ok, I added a little bit so that the "More..." link sends you to a page where you can continue to drill down, but perhaps the best thing to do is create a new subthread page, so to speak. I'll work on that. But it won't be immediate. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23196 http://osnews.com/thread?23196 Looks good, but I prefer the flat view. But I am glad the people who like threaded have been made happy.

So, any movement on numbering comments or being able to rate (non-OSNews) stories?

By numbering comments, I just mean that the first comment to come in is 1. Comments that have been modded down still have their number, so I could be reading along and see

1. RE: Threaded view
2. Test
4. RE[2]: Threaded view
(because 3. was modded down.)

This doesn't have to be a per-user setting. That way I can easily remember which was the last post I read when I come back to read some more. Also when I decide to switch to a lower threshold I have an idea of where to look for those missing messages since they are not on their own page any more.

Rating stories would be an incredibly useful tool. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jaygade) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23200 http://osnews.com/thread?23200 Numbering comments isn't going to work. It might have worked if we designed v3 to work that way, but we didn't, so I don't think it's practical, nor do I think the benefits are worth the time to do it. It would be cool, in hindsight, though.

Rating stories is something I'm all for, but not everyone agrees with me. Perhaps this is good topic for discussion here now. Would you all like to be able to rate ALL stories? And furthermore, would you like to see the ratings on the front page? Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23201 http://osnews.com/thread?23201 One more thing:

when I decide to switch to a lower threshold I have an idea of where to look for those missing messages since they are not on their own page any more

Yeah, it's funny how that works. When we used to mod down comments the old way, when they were on their own page, users would flock to the comments to "see what was so bad that it got modded down." But see, the idea is that users mod down comments so people don't have to see the junk. We don't really want it all on a page, we want it out of the conversation, so to speak. You know? Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23202 http://osnews.com/thread?23202 It does indeed work now.

Awesome! Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DittoBox) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23203 http://osnews.com/thread?23203 I prefer the way Groklaws threading works. In Growlaw I can see all the thread titles under all original postings without having to click anything and with Firefox tab browsing I can go to any thread subposting easily. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23204 http://osnews.com/thread?23204 The sixth reply is still nested. That was a bug, in which the read_thread page didn't ring up as a reply, but it's changed. It's clear we need a better way to view threads once they get more than four deep.

Perhaps a change to "read_thread" is in order. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23205 http://osnews.com/thread?23205 We can do that if we dispense with indenting. Groklaw isn't confined to some of the rules we impose on ourselves, like the usable screen width. There simply isn't enough room for us to constantly indent without wrapping. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23206 http://osnews.com/thread?23206 >When we used to mod down comments the old way, when
>they were on their own page, users would flock to
>the comments to "see what was so bad that it got
>modded down." But see, the idea is that users mod
>down comments so people don't have to see the junk.
>We don't really want it all on a page, we want it
>out of the conversation, so to speak. You know?

I understand the concept, but it has the opposite affect sometimes. Maybe I should just set my threshold lower, but items that get -5 would still draw my attention.

I like the fact that modded down comments can be segregated from the primary conversation. But the curiosity to see what was so bad it got modded down is still there. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jaygade) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23208 http://osnews.com/thread?23208 >Numbering comments isn't going to work. It might
>have worked if we designed v3 to work that way, but
>we didn't, so I don't think it's practical, nor do I
>think the benefits are worth the time to do it. It
>would be cool, in hindsight, though.

Pity. Maybe during the next big overhaul!

>Rating stories is something I'm all for, but not
>everyone agrees with me. Perhaps this is good topic
>for discussion here now. Would you all like to be
>able to rate ALL stories? And furthermore, would you
>like to see the ratings on the front page?

Well, since I brought it up I *will* vote for it. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jaygade) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23209 http://osnews.com/thread?23209 It took me a very long time to get used to the way slashdot worked but strangely enough I've never had a problem with usenet. I think I'll stay with flat view. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Luke McCarthy) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23212 http://osnews.com/thread?23212 Someone obviously doesn't understand the concept of operator overloading ;-) Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Motz) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23213 http://osnews.com/thread?23213 I think he was trying to be funny Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jon1012) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23216 http://osnews.com/thread?23216 Ditto. Thanks, folks. This threaded view is VERY slick, and I think it will help some of us navigate the site a little more easily.

It's good that folks who like flat mode still have that option, too. :-)

Very nice... Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rcsteiner) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23221 http://osnews.com/thread?23221 Obviously he was using fixed point not floating point. Who'd use floating point for version numbering? ;-) Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Luke McCarthy) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23225 http://osnews.com/thread?23225 Poke away. The point is to find and repair the bugs. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23226 http://osnews.com/thread?23226 That is pretty sweet. Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sphinx) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23229 http://osnews.com/thread?23229 First off, let me say, way to go Adam and the rest of the OS News crew! (yes even you Thom).

As always, suggestions, feedback, flames, gift certificates and evites can be directed to osnews-crew at osnews dot com, or to me personally at adam at osnews dot com.

I just have to ask, has anyone really sent you a gift certificate? Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TaterSalad) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23233 http://osnews.com/thread?23233 Cool. Now there's one less thing for the various trolls and whiners to complain about. But I think I'll stick to flat view- I still feel that it leads to better conversations. On a side note, any thoughts about that "anti-bad repliers" idea I sent you? Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Roguelazer) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23236 http://osnews.com/thread?23236 I just have to ask, has anyone really sent you a gift certificate?

You could be the first!! Thu, 25 Aug 2005 23:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23249 http://osnews.com/thread?23249 ok here is my 2 cents.

2 cent! Thu, 25 Aug 2005 23:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Accident) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23259 http://osnews.com/thread?23259 Can we have some screenshots? Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23260 http://osnews.com/thread?23260 Sounds good. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Beryllium) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23262 http://osnews.com/thread?23262 I can't wait until Threading goes live for registered users. It should be interesting to see how it is visually implimented.

Although there is one thing ... In the article, it sounds like they are talking about "unthreaded views" and not "threaded views". A good example of threaded views is slashdot. There, you can easily follow a thread and replies via tree-like view. Makes it simple for both beginners and vets to follow.

Which one are you talking about? Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Shannara) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23263 http://osnews.com/thread?23263 Nvm, looks like a pref that must be set ... Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Shannara) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23271 http://osnews.com/thread?23271 well at 3:30 CEST it still is not active. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lemmy) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23274 http://osnews.com/thread?23274 I don't really see the point in numbering the changes to OSNews. Does anybody really care if it's 3.0 or 3.1? I can't even see anywhere on the site where it gives the version number, besides these types of posts. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23283 http://osnews.com/thread?23283 I'm going to hold you to that. Expect something in the mail next week. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 02:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TaterSalad) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23295 http://osnews.com/thread?23295 "I don't really see the point in numbering the changes to OSNews. Does anybody really care if it's 3.0 or 3.1? I can't even see anywhere on the site where it gives the version number, besides these types of posts."

Nope. No one cares and it doesn't matter. It's just fun because lots of people use the site and enjoy new features. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 03:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23296 http://osnews.com/thread?23296 I can't wait until Threading goes live for registered users.

Uh.... threading *is* live for registered users. Instead of screenshots, navigate to your preferences and turn threading on in the section that says "View." Fri, 26 Aug 2005 03:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23297 http://osnews.com/thread?23297 I would prefer to see only posts being allowed for those that register. Those that don't register are able to read the news but not post in the threads. It gets tiresome seeing all the anonymous posts and having to reply to an IP Address instead of a username. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 03:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Dark_Knight) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23298 http://osnews.com/thread?23298 Well, you don't have to reply to an IP, if you choose the "reply" to a comment, it will be linked, so you'll see which Anonymous it's directed to.

There are simply too many users who prefer to use the site anonymously for us to disable this access, although I agree that it would very likely raise the quality of the posts around here. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 03:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23299 http://osnews.com/thread?23299 Now when will you focus on accurate & decent news articals? Fri, 26 Aug 2005 03:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23302 http://osnews.com/thread?23302 When you start submitting them! Fri, 26 Aug 2005 03:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Roguelazer) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23313 http://osnews.com/thread?23313 Mmm. Let there be friends! Fri, 26 Aug 2005 04:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Roguelazer) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23324 http://osnews.com/thread?23324 You could store the last read post in a cookie for registered users, and provide an option for paranoids to disable it. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 07:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23326 http://osnews.com/thread?23326 (additional comment)
This wouldn't add more database lookups. If the users has post-tracking set, it would be stored in a cookie as well. If there's no cookie, don't do it :-) Fri, 26 Aug 2005 07:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23327 http://osnews.com/thread?23327 Yup, still not working here... Fri, 26 Aug 2005 07:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Wintermute) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23329 http://osnews.com/thread?23329 Now when will you focus on accurate & decent news articals?

Name on recent newsitem that was untrue.


--Thom Holwerda Fri, 26 Aug 2005 07:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23330 http://osnews.com/thread?23330 Why don't you just put [new] or something similar in front of new comments. Let say if the comment is less than 1 hour the [new] will be red, after 4 hours it will turn green and after 12 say black. When the comment is more than say 16 hours old you dont show [new] label at all. As I see you keep track to the time comments were submitted so no new datasets are necessary easy you just calculate the age on the fly.
Do you own research and find the appropriate timings.
Of course this does not reflect what is actually new for the users, but it is very handy when you come back say 5 hours later. Or if you wish you could track when user last visited the site and calculate the age of the comments according to that time (if cookies are not a problem for the users).
I don't know if it is possible to do in your current implementation, but I saw that on another site I regularly visit and this helps a lot. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (growchie) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23334 http://osnews.com/thread?23334 Go ahead and mod me down for this(I feel its within your 14 rules), but why are you guys re-inventing the wheel? You writing a CMS and updating it when it is closed source and non-distributed isnt exactly what I would call news-worthy. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23344 http://osnews.com/thread?23344 Testing Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Rodrigo) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23346 http://osnews.com/thread?23346 thanks for your work, osnews is great! Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23348 http://osnews.com/thread?23348 Yep, that's a good point. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (QuantumG) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23349 http://osnews.com/thread?23349 Your post doesn't make any sense. If they feel like reinventing the wheel, its their right to do so. I am sure they have their own technical and 'political' reasons. You don't pay them to do this do you? So why are complaining? It's newsworthy because it concerns the site. Anyone who regularly visits would be interested in changes, this is especially true considering that one of the new features is threaded views.

Secondly, who are you to decide whats not newsworthy? If you don't like this article, just don't spend your time on it. Simple! Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Wintermute) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23350 http://osnews.com/thread?23350 It's not a good point. Name me one CMS (backend AND frontend) that will *for sure* render well on every browser, no matter how obscure it is. And then I mean PDA browsers, phone browsers, text-based, Net+, the whole shite.

Then we'll talk.

--Thom Holwerda Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23374 http://osnews.com/thread?23374 Don Knuth =p Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Motz) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23375 http://osnews.com/thread?23375 How is this ANY different than someone whining about there being too many Linux distributions? Is it SO incomprehensible that we want to have our own, unique CMS that renders in multiple browsers?

You writing a CMS and updating it when it is closed source and non-distributed isnt exactly what I would call news-worthy.

You grousing about our CMS is what I'd call class A trolling. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23387 http://osnews.com/thread?23387 Every /. kiddie out there can understand threaded view. It's not that hard to understand, and any comments to the contrary remind me of MS saying that tabbed views in a web browser are just so confusing to end users. i.e. hogwash If you want to keep a cool feature for subscription members then that's fine, just don't make up lame excuses. In reality people don't really care about time order so much between threads, the whole point of threading is that you group similar subject items together, and that's what most normal, semi-organized thinking people care about, not absolute time order of messages. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23390 http://osnews.com/thread?23390 The above rant is ridiculous. First off, threading is not just for subscription members, it's for all registered users, paid or not, rendering the entire rant about "lame excuses" completely pointless.

Secondly, this site is not just for "/. kiddies," as described, but, rather, for anyone. We're not catering to just the "News for Nerds" crowd, and we want our site available and understandable to anyone.

Just because you understand threading does not mean most people do; we have done our research, and, not entirely surprisingly, most people do not. This "hogwash," sadly, is your own opinion, one that's founded on principals we've specifically said are not our goals. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23405 http://osnews.com/thread?23405 Yes, "friends" is now active in user profiles. I'm going to try and find a better way to allow adding in the comments as well. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 15:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23497 http://osnews.com/thread?23497 Yup. It would have a smoother learning curve if there was a dropdown at the top of the page right next to Browse At: [-1 ]. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lpetrazickis) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23591 http://osnews.com/thread?23591 And..... done. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23648 http://osnews.com/thread?23648 Yes, I would very much like to be able to rate all stories and double yes that I'd like to see it on the front page. I hate to say it, but every now and then a dumb story (or factually incorrect one) slips through. It would be great to be able to avoid clicking into the story to find out. Having a "hide stories with score less than X" preference is the next logical step, but unessecary I think. Just showing the current score on the front page would be a boon. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TheBashar) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23651 http://osnews.com/thread?23651 Groklaw is "ehhh" for my tastes, but the indenting here in expanded threaded view is really da-bomb. I vote for keeping indenting. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TheBashar) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23670 http://osnews.com/thread?23670 There should be a preference option so that when you reply to a comment you should either go to your comment in threaded mode or go to the comment you were replying to if you are in flat mode. That way you can continue to read the rest of the comments without having to scroll down to where you were before. Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Lumbergh) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23979 http://osnews.com/thread?23979 Translation: Waaaah, how dare you not use OSS? Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?23981 http://osnews.com/thread?23981 The expanded view is quite nice, reminds me of the nested view from the IMDB forums. Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?24055 http://osnews.com/thread?24055 Why not do some AJAX (for the browsers that support it), reload the page continioulsy in the background, on each iteration make new posts stand out. Eclipse has a nice way of marking importnat stuff in/by the scrollbar, it might be possible for to do something similar.

In any case, doing post numbering in javascript shouldn't be hard, isn't comment_id incremented with each post? Just sort them in an array and add the array index to the post. Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (John Nilsson) Comments