http://www.osnews.com/story/12965/An_Overview_of_Nokia_s_KHTML_WebCore-based_S60_Browser Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:45:08 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?72499 http://osnews.com/thread?72499 This has probably been asked many times before, but wat are the real world uses for mobile browsing?

I mean, this new Nokia thingy looks really neat and it appears to be a real improvement over the 'previous generation' mobile browsers, but how many people are actually going to use this on a daily basis?

To me, these gadgets are still mostly something you buy, show to your friends over a few beers in your favorite bar ("Look here, guys, this is really coolll") and then stick it back in your pocket only to never use the browsing capabilities of your phone again. Or am I the only one who it this way? Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Feike Wierda) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?72504 http://osnews.com/thread?72504 As long as I have enough money on my card, I browse wap and if I'm on the road, I use opera mini some times, so yes, I would probably use it. Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jaboua) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?72507 http://osnews.com/thread?72507 Most of the new Nokia phones come with WiFi, so these phones --eventually-- are going to replace the PDAs, at least in the business world. Quite a few people use a mobile device to browse the net daily, OSNews alone receives 2000 hits daily from mobile/text-mode users.

I personally use mobile browsing quite a bit. There are mobile pages for slashdot, news.com, gmail, osnews, gnomefiles, msn, yahoo etc, and when there is none, RSS does it as well too.

Last week we went to Reno, NV, for vacations with my husband and we had with us an MS smartphone with a 176x220 screen. While driving there we used it to go to weather sites and check out the weather and the road conditions (it was snowing you see). It proved to be an extremely useful tool, even if involved a lot of scrolling around with IE. Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?72540 http://osnews.com/thread?72540 What is the mobile page for Gmail? Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?72544 http://osnews.com/thread?72544 I have installed a modified gmail-lite engine on my server and I use that. It's a modified interface from this: http://gmail-lite.sourceforge.net/ (my version is more mobile-friendly and I use it only for myself -- the author of gmail-lite didn't care about my UI changes to make it more compatible with more mobile browsers).

Failing that, Gmail will just work using its desktop layout, but without the Ajax JS code, just in plain HTML mode. Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?72551 http://osnews.com/thread?72551 I uploaded two screenshots from my Dell x50v while using my modified Gmail-Lite version on my server:
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http://www.osnews.com/img/12965/gmail2.png Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?72607 http://osnews.com/thread?72607 I hope they get this running on the Nokia 770 sometime. I was surprised that they were running Opera on that, but maybe they just weren't far enough along with this browser yet. Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (leos) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?72702 http://osnews.com/thread?72702 I agree, I'd like to a version for the 770, if for no other reason than that'd it probably be GTK+ based, and could be proted to other platforms. Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bsharitt) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?72762 http://osnews.com/thread?72762 Do they? I think of all 40 models or so nokia has maybe 2 maximum 3 phones supporting wifi. This is of course not bad since this is just a beginning. But it is far from most of nokia phones.

Also you can not sit and surf on wifi for long before your battery runs out. Especially with the nokias standby. With Sony Ericssons P990 you could do a bit longer but still you could surf much longer on GPRS/UMTS. Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?72770 http://osnews.com/thread?72770 Anonymous, the next time you decide to quote me, do it RIGHT. I said "most of the new Nokia phones", not "most Nokia phones". Most of the *new* Nokia Symbian phones do come with WiFi, like the E61, the N92, the N80, the E70 etc. Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?72875 http://osnews.com/thread?72875 With this being ported to Symbian, I wonder what the chances of having this ported to other platforms like S80, S90, and of greatest interest to me, UIQ. I use Opera 6 on my P910 because it's the best browser available, but if a KHTML browser for UIQ2 were released, I'd definitely switch over to that! Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?72876 http://osnews.com/thread?72876 The 770 runs Linux (based on Debian), so a port to this would be even easier. Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?72909 http://osnews.com/thread?72909 This is one of the best articles I've read so far on OSNews. It's very well detailed, precise and it answered all of my questions, even informing me of things I did not know. Eugenia, my hat's off to you. ;-) Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (1c3d0g) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?72959 http://osnews.com/thread?72959 If you had read the article, you would have the answer to these questions. Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?73462 http://osnews.com/thread?73462 Î was under the impression, that the N80, E60 and E70 all have 2.1" screens as the N70, N90, 6680 and basically every other old series 60 phone. 2.4" is quite a bit bigger than 2.1" and not that much smaller than 2.8".

symplification.com says the N80 is 2.1" And I read it somewhere else too.

So, whats right? You guys obviously work with a N80 so you can just measure it yourselves. Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MarcTGFG) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?73465 http://osnews.com/thread?73465 I also domobile browsing with my T-Mobile MDA compact on a 2.8" screen via GPRS. Many tech pages are optimised like engadget and are quite readable.

I also and mainly use it for web based chat rooms. Where 24h availability can mean the difference between a pleasant evening and a wild night ;-) Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MarcTGFG) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?73466 http://osnews.com/thread?73466 I understand the challenge of viewing that small text on such a small screen. Why not let the user set a minimum text size in pixel like Opera desktop does? Shouldnt be too hard to code, right? Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MarcTGFG) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?73523 http://osnews.com/thread?73523 >symplification.com says the N80 is 2.1"

If it's 2.1", then the situation is even worse than I mentioned in the article.

>Why not let the user set a minimum text size in pixel like Opera desktop does?

Because this defeats the purpose of the high resolution screen. What's the poind of having a 352x416 screen when even a PocketPC 240x320 can show more text information in one screen then? Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?73564 http://osnews.com/thread?73564 so, what is it, I just want to know what screen size it is, since it might turn me to the Nokia N71 which does have a 2.4" screen

Anyway.

I would rather be able to read web pages at all, even if that DEFIES the purpose of a higher resolution screen. We should petition Nokia to use physically larger screens. Maybe 2.6 or 2.7" screens would be the perfect compromise, couple that with Operas zoom funtion and you get the desired result.Edited 2005-12-15 18:35 Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MarcTGFG) Comments