http://www.osnews.com/story/13423/Opera_Mini_1_2-Final_Released Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Sun, 19 May 2013 14:21:14 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread?89043 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89043 browsing the web at such low res seems somewhat of a gadget/show-off feature, with little practical use. to add insult to injury, it's usually expensive and probably impacts your battry life.

then again I already feel somewhat clostrophobic on 14" 1024x768.Edited 2006-01-24 19:56 Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (necrosis) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89048 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89048 On a handset that has good fonts and a good browser, even 128x160 is enough. OSNews is fully browsable on such a resolution for example. Then again, OSNews has spent half of its life optimizing for such browsers/resolutions.

Seriously, this is why Nokia created the N770 internet tablet. So users with phones can pair it with their phone and browse the internet through the internet tablet's 800x480 resolution.

Besides, all new phones now come with QVGA screens, which is enough IF the sites are optimized for this resolution (which are not, of course). Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89067 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89067 It is cool though. I love Opera software, they never cease to amaze me. Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Jedd) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89076 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89076 I've used Opera mini since the first release, and it's great. A server compresses big pages to around 10kb and both posting in forums and reading normal pages. And since I've only got a pretty simple phone with no 3G or EDGE, this solution is the only acceptable one. Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hagiz) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89077 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89077 operas decision to go strong into the mobile market was defenently a good one. this is more than likely going ot be a very lucerative endevor for them Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (poundsmack) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89089 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89089 Does anyone know of a way to run the this browser under windows or linux for development purposes? Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kurenai) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89091 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89091 Yes, the way I did it to get these screenshots. You download and install the Sony Ericsson Java SDK and then you email me so I can give you the proper .jad and .jar files (both are needed on the SonyEricsson SDK, some editing of the .jad is required too, so you will need my version). Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89098 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89098 Opera used to charge for their very good Symbian browser and for the proxy access that compressed the data. How come they're giving it all for free now. How do they make money from it? Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sard) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89100 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89100 >How come they're giving it all for free now.

This is easy to answer: because no carrier in the world used it. They probably had a very small interest by carriers, mostly because carriers have VERY specific guidelines about the features and layout and fonts of a browser, points that Opera Mini doesn't support or doesn't want to support.

>How do they make money from it?

Sometimes, it's all about prestige and free marketing, in order to push other products from the same company.

BTW, an interesting discussion on Opera Mini is here too: http://www.russellbeattie.com/notebook/1008770.html Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89114 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89114 I know this is not a support site, but couldn't find anything useful on the opera site. Anyone know how to change font size. The font size on my p910i is tiny. Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dumbkiwi) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89117 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89117 You can only make the font smaller, not bigger. The point of Opera Mini is to fit as much information as possible in one screen, exactly because native browsers have very specific guidelines from carriers to use bigger fonts and geeks/tech-people were always unhappy with this fact.

IMHO, Opera Mini does the right thing using smaller fonts there, but it's not going to please people with bad eyesight. For those people, better just use the native browser (except if a "use bigger font" option is going to be added in the future). Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89129 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89129 Personaly i use an Opera mod by some DG-SC guy (yep, its a russian mod, you can get one with an english interface, though ), its even more feature complete and phone independant, also has a download manager and some other neet things like keypad navigation.

That opera mod is what opera mini should be.

Than again, there would not be an opera mini mod without opera mini. Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (IceCubed) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89156 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89156 Fixed it. setting it to use the small font, in fact made the font bigger on my phone, so I'm a very happy camper. This is much better than the browser opera puts out for Symbian (which comes with the phone). The rendering is just fantastic. Wed, 25 Jan 2006 01:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dumbkiwi) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89159 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89159 Then, you just found a bug. On my Sony Ericsson it makes the font smaller, as it is supposed to. Wed, 25 Jan 2006 01:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89194 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89194 for some reason links are shown out of place while scrolling and it's a little slower than netfront on my phoneBrowser: Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/1.2.2960; en; U; ssr) Wed, 25 Jan 2006 06:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous.) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89203 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89203 I think opera mini is impressive. 65kb download, renders most pages fine, fast, free. And best of all it works great on my aging 6610. Wed, 25 Jan 2006 06:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mariux) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89210 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89210 This even works on my antique 3510i. Will have to give this a try! Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sauron) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89211 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89211 Well I just installed in on my Sony Ericsson k500i and it flies! I was always annoyed by the built-in browser, but Opera Mini feels like very solid software.

It's fast, it looks good, I love it!

It even shows me what time it is! The lack of time display in the built-in browser has always annoyed me. Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (remenic) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89213 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89213 That's not quite true. I have developed WAP frontend to our company financial system. So, when you're at customer you can reserve invoice, see details, query user database. It's not as flashy as orginal interface, and it's almost read-only because of security, but still, comes very handy.

I'm going to office by bus. It's 30 minutes I can spare to read papers OR see what's on OSNews. Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Emil) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89225 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89225 Can someone tell me how to get this working on a Psion Netbook (EPOC)?

Thanks Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Abdullah) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89285 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89285 Does your Psion has java MIDP in it? If not, you can't. Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89316 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89316 Yes, the Psion can run Java apps...

But it is not a phone, it is a PDA. I just would like to figure out the instructions for making the jar file work... Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Abdullah) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?89346 http://www.osnews.com/thread?89346 Do you have downloaded the .jar file? If yes, you should be able to run it via your java's console/loader. If not, email me and I will send you the jar file. Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments