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the basic requirement of 90% computer users is to exchange files in simple .doc or .xls format. they may use any word processor/any os but they need it to save in .doc format to use in school home office.
is this too much to ask for koffice???
one added question, why does openoffice 2.0 runs much faster on my XP and sluggish on debian/slack linux?? both os are on same comp, so same hardware..so now for same OS program which architecture is faster???
i know you’re just a troll, but it’s generally so easy to reply to you i (and others) just can’t controll myself
you ask from Koffice to be able to open .doc’s better… well, I hate MS Office cuz it can’t open OpenDocumentFormat files at all. and as it is an ISO standard, internationally accepted, and even Koffice and OpenOffice can open it, they should be able to add support. now i can’t open most files i made at home… you pay so much for Microsoft office, while it doesn’t support many fileformats. weak.
openoffice is faster on XP cuz XP has a better compiler (intel’s) and better drivers (commercial), i suppose. i wouldn’t say XP is slower than linux, it is faster on several points. mostly application startup. it sucks on multitasking, tough, to name one thing.
Or perhaps OOo is faster on Windows because it uses native widgets and not GTK? Same goes for Firefox, at least when I last tried Firefox on a slower Windows machine than my box and it ran faster with that old Windows box…
I’ve tried last version of KOffice, but unfortunatly it’s their Opendocument format is not compatible with openoffice. When I save ODF file from OO and then edit it from KOffice, the layout is different;
However, I like to have a project manager like KPlato at hand; I’ll download it and give it a try; and hopefully they workout the compatibility issues with OO.
This beta has a bunch of bugfixes related to ODF and OOo support. So hopefully it will work now.
The stable KOffice does not yet fully support ODF. This is a known thing.
When I save ODF file from OO and then edit it from KOffice, the layout is different;
Are you using one of the OOo betas or a 2.0.x final release? The OOo betas had a bug, and were not producing compatible OpenDoc in some cases.
The basic requirement of 90% computer users is to exchange files in simple .doc or .xls format
Simple? To simulate a non documented format? Good luck trying. If you want perfect doc compatibility, go somewhere else, KWord is not for you.
But if you want a complete, future proof and lightweight office suite, KOffice is for you. The KOffice developers did a tremendous job, abandoning their own format and embacing the OpenDocument format, to effectively create a market for a open format.
Not only that, Krita is breaking new ground in terms of features and usability, and it is now seriously challenging Gimp’s leadership.
The number of KOffice developers increased a lot last year, and the pace of development increased impressively. KOffice 2.0 (Qt/KDE 4 based) will run in Windows too, and most of the text layout problems KWrite has will be fixable with Qt4.
Yes, the future looks bright….
Your joking right?, Krita is nowhere near GIMP, it’s chunky interface is rather bad. It’s so slow at drawing, where is you get such information?
well, you obviously didn’t try it lately. Krita’s interface kicks gimp’s anytime (tough that’s mostly because gimp’s sucks). if you enable OpenGL accelleration, its not slow at all, too. and it has some nifties you’ll love… try the latest Beta or wait for the final 1.5 and be amazed
ok, Gimp IS more mature, and has been developed far longer, but Krita IS catching on quick, and already supports full colorspace independence (which gimp won’t support for another 5 years, i’m sure).
Here is what a gnome dev has to say about krita:
http://blogs.gnome.org/view/bolsh/2005/12/15/1
i know you’re just a troll, but it’s generally so easy to reply to you i (and others) just can’t controll myself
—you guys always avoid replying any ‘salt-on-wound’ questions on this OSN forum. my question was ‘can u SAVE file with koffice in .doc format?’ and what developers are doing about it? and u answered yes one can OPEN .doc file in koffice. That’s the dumbest reply i have ever seen.
anyway how do you send a kword edited document/report to your friend/boss/coworker?? he/she may have MSO/OO/abiword/SO/602pc/easyword installed on their system. Dont ask them to convert to KO. I see only way, print out 200 pages koffice .doc file and snailmail it to other person….right…in this e-age.
No, you can’t export a file as a MS Word document.
But, that doesn’t stop you from exchanging information with anyone else.
There’s just plain text, or rtf or even pdf.
Businesses don’t depend on MS Office.
Small businesses tend to rely on whatever format is the default for the software they’re using, and home users too. I’d even dare to contradict you and say that big businesses sometimes do this too as often their slideshows and documents are in MS Office formats. That said most well thought out big companies, and especially government offices will use very well suppoted standards such as pdf for documents, tiff for images and so on.
No, you can’t export a file as a MS Word document.
But, that doesn’t stop you from exchanging information with anyone else.
There’s just plain text, or rtf or even pdf.
Businesses don’t depend on MS Office.
—— My graphs and photos become upside down when i try to save KO in .rtf format. and PDF needs other person to convert to text again to edit/correct it.
—In business field most people will spend money for efficiency and ease of use of an application. Not for spending time to convert file formats. Therefore koffice is still remains inconvinient to use. I use OpenOffice the closest competitor to MSO
please stop asking and speaking about .doc support in KOffice, it won’t be made, ever, it’s too much work for something that isn’t really worth it.
Maybe koffice will support the new xml based document, but not the current binary format.
If you want to exchange data, just use RTF, there have been a lot of improvement in RTF. And if you really need xls and doc, then KOffice is not made for you and will never be. So if you need them, use Ms Office or OpenOffice.org.
And if you don’t require those file formats, try KOffice, it might suit your needs
You use OpenOffice, eh? Well, you could always save your document in ODF, open the ODF in OO.o and save from OO.o in .doc format.
Your complaints are misguided: I suggest you convince the DOJ that Microsoft is abusing its monopoly position to stifle competition in the Office Suite market, and that the only remedy to this situation is to force MS to open up its .doc and .xls formats.
I have to use MS Office on Linux because of compatibility issues (and because I already own a copy – might as well use it, right?). But I’m happy that KOffice is progressing, and I might actually switch to it for some personal writing projects.
Please stop trying to turn every thread into a Linux/Microsoft flamewar. It’s really, really annoying. That and your awful grammar – hey, English is my second language too, it’s not a reason to butcher it!
KWord can export to many formats, here’s some of them:
– AbirWord’s format
– OpenOffice 1.x format
– OpenDocument format
– RTF-document (which most of the office suites support)
– Microsoft Write format
– Plain old TXT
– And not to mention HTML
Supporting all those formats, I doubt your friend/boss/coworker will have any trouble reading your documents.
I’d rather like to congratulate and thank the KOffice team for spending their freetime to develop this wonderful piece of software.
Edited 2006-02-01 22:29
Uhm… I happen to like the Gimp a lot (mostly because I’ve worked with it for many years now) but Krita is in many ways its match and in some ways its better. Most of my issues with it in testing it had to do with learning a new interface, not in the quality of that interface.
As far as slow at drawing… sounds to me like someone doesn’t have a 2D accelerated card or something. My machine felt exceptionally snappy using Krita.
That’s probably because OOo is running in the background windows, openoffice quicklauncher… They exist for linux too, can’t remember the name thou.