http://www.osnews.com/story/14221/Mozilla_Donates_to_OpenBSD Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:32:36 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?111274 http://osnews.com/thread?111274 Very nice! Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Lazarus) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111277 http://osnews.com/thread?111277 Hey, the Mozilla Foundation's done something worthwhile for a change! Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (eMagius) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111278 http://osnews.com/thread?111278 This is a good move from the Mozilla foundation. Everybody benefits from OpenSSH not only the OpenBSD project. It would be nice if other "big names" follow the Mozilla Foundation's example. Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (antonis00) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111279 http://osnews.com/thread?111279 Small names, like individuals, can help also. Have you pre-ordered you OpenBSD 3.9 sets? Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (celt) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111280 http://osnews.com/thread?111280 Its a very noble gesture from the Mozilla Foundation. I hope other opensource projects continue supporting each other in this manner. Incidentally on the Mozilla Foundation article there is something about Firefox 2.0 and 3.0 being licenced as GPL/LGPL and MPL as well. Very interesting. Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dark child) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111296 http://osnews.com/thread?111296 It already is and always has been tri-licenced MPL/GPL/LGPL. Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MYOB) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111299 http://osnews.com/thread?111299 Have they met there 100k objective yet , or do more people need to send money , again ? Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Moulinneuf) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111301 http://osnews.com/thread?111301 edit: nvm.Edited 2006-04-04 18:28 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Ronald Vos) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111302 http://osnews.com/thread?111302 >It already is and always has been tri-licenced MPL/GPL/LGPL

But until last month it wasn't complete tri-licenced.

This goal achieved only a few days ago:
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/2006/03/relicensing_co... Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (schiesbn) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111338 http://osnews.com/thread?111338 OpenBSD guys want a bit too much for their sets. 45 euro? I'd buy it for 20 and they still would profit. Now I'll just download it Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (miscz) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111347 http://osnews.com/thread?111347 You get stickers! And artwork. And you support an open source project. If you just download it you don't get stickers, you can download some artwork but it's never going to be the same as the official cd inserts, and you don't support the project.

Of course you could buy a couple shirts and download and support the project... or just donate 20 euro and download it and still support the project...

or you can just not support the project but who would want to do that? Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sequethin) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111372 http://osnews.com/thread?111372 Of course you could buy a couple shirts and download and support the project... or just donate 20 euro and download it and still support the project...

But then I don't get the stickers! Man, this is a cruel world...

;) Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (miscz) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111374 http://osnews.com/thread?111374 I keep telling everyone that it's all about the stickers and no one believes me!

edit- Imagine how many stickers the mozilla guys are gonna get? lifetime supply I imagine! *sigh* maybe if you donate to mozilla you'll get openbsd stickers. I dare you to donate and find out!Edited 2006-04-04 20:14 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sequethin) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111378 http://osnews.com/thread?111378 They might make a profit on the cost of producing the discs themselves but not on all the dev time spent on the software itself.

http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060321034114 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tcremer) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111381 http://osnews.com/thread?111381 Wow, this news shocked me. For some reason I always thought Mozilla leaned more towards the Windows and Linux crowd. This is indeed a great gesture by the Mozilla crew. I'd like to see other big named companies do the same and get credit for it. Mozilla gets my respect, even tho they already had it. Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TaterSalad) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111400 http://osnews.com/thread?111400 Well they probably do but openssh is such a great techology why not. It works on linux and is simply amazing. Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (msg43) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111407 http://osnews.com/thread?111407 Thats true. Its just that you don't see too many high profile companies donating to them be it for openbsd or openssh. Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TaterSalad) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111658 http://osnews.com/thread?111658 a noble gesture? if it's true, that the mozilla foundation [non-profit] is making over $30m annually off of its deal for the google search box, than i would expect them to support *more* open-source projects and with *more* money. hm?
anyway, good luck openbsd/ssh. Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kamil_chatrnuch) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111672 http://osnews.com/thread?111672 So if Mozilla earns money through the success of their browser they get criticized, and if they give away this money to other (remotely related) projects they get criticized as well because they don't give enough?

Helping the openSD project is a nice gesture from Mozilla, but the most important thing, and this is probably what the Mozilla Fundation expected, is that it gave a lot of publicity to the current OpenBSD financial problems and people/companies will probably donate more. Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pascalc) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111681 http://osnews.com/thread?111681 i agree with you about the publicity thing. what i meant was:
earning money - is great. donating some of it - is great.

but for a non-profit foundation with a $30m budget, i don't see enought of this money floating around. that's all. Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kamil_chatrnuch) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111685 http://osnews.com/thread?111685 Yes but this non profit organization is also hiring new people almost every week, they are no longer a 10 people organization and more like a 100 people one, which means salaries, offices, furniture, travel expenses...

And I do expect them to not spend this money in a year time like somebody you just won the lottery but plan to have money in the bank to remain independent from external pressure for the years to come.

I agree that they should spend much more money in the community tahn they do now (which is close to zero), but I expect them to spend the bulk of it in its direct activities, opening mozilla branches in the world, participating in opensource events, organizing mozilla events, hiring new mozilla developpers, giving money/machines to mozilla localizers, paying the hosting bills of Mozilla portals... Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pascalc) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?111997 http://osnews.com/thread?111997 When was Mozilla ever a 10 person company?

They had 80+ devs from the start. Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Ronald Vos) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?112014 http://osnews.com/thread?112014 80+ people from the start, in your dreams!!! Even now there are barely 80 full time developers working on Mozilla code and many of them are doing it for partner comapnies like IBM, Google or RedHat.

When Netscape was axed by AOL and the Mozilla foundation was created, barely 10 people were hired by the new unit. There is a huge difference between "we have 80 developpers" and "we have 80 PAID developpers". Until very recently key developpers like super-reviewers and module owners were still unemployed and working for free on the project. Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pascalc) Comments