http://www.osnews.com/story/14391/Interview_Jonathan_Gray_Damien_Bergamini_of_OpenBSD Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:41:13 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?116888 http://osnews.com/thread?116888 And in related news, Go Daddy has donated $10,000 to support OpenSSH development.

http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060420063121 Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Lazarus) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?116899 http://osnews.com/thread?116899 Haven't these guys done the same sort of "reverse engineering" that set the ReactOS project back and resulted in a huge audit? The same people who analyzed the GPL code wrote the BSD code. I wouldn't expect the original forcedeth developers to complain, but if nVidia suddently decides they don't like OpenBSD, they could claim nfe is a derivative of the GPL code they've contributed to forcedeth. I'm not trying to troll. This is an honest concern. Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Jake) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?116919 http://osnews.com/thread?116919 They could, but this would be easy to handle. At worst, they would have to change the code, so it wasn't a derivative; at best it would be clear that the implementation does not contain GPL'ed code. Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dylansmrjones) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?116921 http://osnews.com/thread?116921 Since I depend entirely on my nForce2 working to get online, do net stuff, get system downloads and updates, is it working ok with Open? What's going on about it all?

Jake, nVidia has contributed to the source for forcedeth? I had no idea! Although if Microsoft can submit a patch to GAIM for using MSN protocol, why can't nVidia do a bit to support a bit of free(as for in open) stuff. Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Lengsel) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?116927 http://osnews.com/thread?116927 Damien Bergamini explains in this interview that they only get the hardware specifications but they didn't use same algorhytms or such things; so this should be legal.
Also, AFAIK the OpenBSD project isn't settled in the USA, so they don't have to watch for a company suing this project, because in most non-US countries reverse-engineering is AFAIK legal. Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (madhatter) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?116934 http://osnews.com/thread?116934 Jake, nVidia has contributed to the source for forcedeth? I had no idea! Although if Microsoft can submit a patch to GAIM for using MSN protocol, why can't nVidia do a bit to support a bit of free(as for in open) stuff.

From the interview:

Jonathan Gray:
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A few years ago several people started a reverse engineered driver for Linux, which for some bizarre reason I don't understand NVIDIA employees seem to now contribute to and recommend over their own driver. Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Jake) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?116946 http://osnews.com/thread?116946 I didn't read the interview, well I guess that's what I get for it.

But regardless, all hail OpenBSD security! I know even Linux distros and Mac OS X have shipped with OpenSSH included! Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Lengsel) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?116984 http://osnews.com/thread?116984 An interesting article but...

does nobody the proof read stuff there days? Fri, 21 Apr 2006 19:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (robshep) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?116994 http://osnews.com/thread?116994 >I know even Linux distros and Mac OS X have shipped with OpenSSH included!

Because that is the only option. Or actually there is one other option. That is to buy a commercial implementation from SSH Communications Security Oyj. There aren't any other implementations, not even free (as in beer) alternatives. Fri, 21 Apr 2006 19:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (_LH_) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?117020 http://osnews.com/thread?117020 But there are other SSH servers and clients out there. Off the top of my head, I can think of DropBear at http://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html and I know I've seen others. Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (charles) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?117101 http://osnews.com/thread?117101 You are both woefully ignorant and terribly foolish for not correcting this problem. Lsh is the GNU project's SSH implementation and the Wikipedia lists many SSH clients. Putty even works on Linux. Sat, 22 Apr 2006 01:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Janizary) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?117162 http://osnews.com/thread?117162 "Haven't these guys done the same sort of "reverse engineering" that set the ReactOS project back and resulted in a huge audit?"

No.

"but if nVidia suddently decides they don't like OpenBSD, they could claim nfe is a derivative of the GPL code they've contributed to forcedeth."

Anyone can claim pretty much anything they want but its only interesting if the claim has any basis in reality.
In this case, there is no derivative *code* so such a claim would have no merit. Sat, 22 Apr 2006 07:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?117206 http://osnews.com/thread?117206 ...
aparintly they do'nt, Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (adapt) Comments