Novell’s OpenSUSE 10.1 is a solid, multipurpose Linux-based operating system that – in addition to being a very good distribution in its own right – offers an early peek at the SUSE Enterprise Linux Desktop product that Novell is set to ship this summer. What has always (and still does) set SUSE apart is the measure of management homogeneity that the distribution brings to this diverse set of components – mostly through its Yast system configuration framework. Overall, eWEEK Labs appreciated the ambitious scope of OpenSUSE 10.1’s configuration tools, but we also ran into some areas in which Yast’s reach frustratingly exceeded its grasp.
I just hope Novell could close a deal to install Suse as an OS for every laptop. Dell has really great laptops and I know that a lot of people do not want to pay for windows on them.
It would be even greater if buying Suse preinstall with support on your laptop would be cheaper than windows. Something like 40$.
louis
Like it or not having a linux based laptop would cost more than a windows based one, at least on the sticker.
Microsoft gives out big subsidies to the OEMS for using windows.
Don’t get me wrong. I hope Novell could pull it off as well. But Novell can’t shell out the cash like MS can.
Money talks and bullsh*t walks.
Edited 2006-06-01 01:58
“Like it or not having a linux based laptop would cost more than a windows based one”
No. Windows is inferior in its total solution offer and cost more to acquire. The problem is in initial investment , the Microsoft windows support system is alreay paid for and built.
“Microsoft gives out big subsidies to the OEMS for using windows.”
Microsoft does a lot of illegal thing and is used to face competitor who are not willing to invest as much as them.
“I hope Novell could pull it off as well.”
Novell is not alone , they are but one of GNU/Linux commercial offer.
“Money talks and bullsh*t walks.”
Real Freedom and Inteligence always win.
http://www.forbes.com/forbeslife/health/feeds/hscout/2006/05/30/hsc…
While I agree that it would be good to see Dell join up with Novell you should know they aren’t the only computer vendor supplying SUSE Linux on preinstalled systems. See http://www.gamepc.com/ which provides a wide variety of systems.
“I just hope Novell could close a deal to install Suse as an OS for every laptop. Dell has really great laptops and I know that a lot of people do not want to pay for windows on them.”
Well, The Dell machines offered with no OS are the same price as the same spec machines with Windows XP Home on them. So basically you really are not paying anything for Windows XP when installed on a machine already. Hate to burst your bubble about the Windows tax.
I do agree though that I wish they would start selling machines with Linux pre-installed for home use. HP has the lead in that area, just not here in the US unfortunately.
Three will give you just about all you need for a great desktop experience. Then just install Smart package manager and the rest of the software is yours.
I mean whats behind the crap from OEM’s, why dont you offer your customers such a great OS and software packages?
<<Three will give you just about all you need for a great desktop experience. Then just install Smart package manager and the rest of the software is yours>>
I couldnt get it to work in Gnome and it would not update at all. I followed the instructions to the “T” even copied and pasted the exat commands in the terminal…too bad
I just couldn’t resist buying a retail 10.1 box.Which i absolutely *don’t* regret.The gnome+Xgl+compiz desktop works like a breeze and is very easy to setup via the gnome-control-panel.Gnome/KDE isn’t an issue for me since i like them both but i must say i’m very fond of Gnome,the way SuSE has arranged it (Xgl,compiz..).
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Only package management is heavily screwed.Hmm i guess this one is going return to sender (store).
Only package management is heavily screwed.Hmm i guess this one is going return to sender (store).
Just install Smart. It really does take care of the problem. I’m typing this from 10.1 now. It has everything installed that I want, and all updates applied, using Smart. It works fine. I will probably continue to use it even after they fix zmd.
Edited 2006-06-01 16:30
“Just install Smart. It really does take care of the problem. I’m typing this from 10.1 now. It has everything installed that I want, and all updates applied, using Smart. It works fine. I will probably continue to use it even after they fix zmd.”
All well and good. Just remember you need to uninstall Java 1.5 if you installed it first. Smart will not install with that jave version already in place due to dependencie issues. I just use ‘yast2 online_update’ insetad and it si working fine for me. For general package installation I have had no problems with the installer, though I do know there are issues with it. I have been lucky.
All well and good.
Not really.For me it’s not an effort to correct here and there after some googling.But it’s bad publicity for Novell to say the least.Especially because they claim to have shipped *the* complete linux suite for entering penguin world.A critical instrument like a package manager should at least work out of the box.
What if somebody new to linux has bought 10.1.He or she defenitely gets the wrong impression and might not return.All in all the project coordinator should have sheduled not working stuff for 10.2 todo.Using smart or the like isn’t an option for a retail box period.
What’s wrong with it? I don’t have suse but i am curious about it
Man, this suse 10.1 boots slow.
From bootloader to fully usable KDE desktop is 1 minute and 20+ seconds.(autologin)
On 10.0 it was around 50 seconds.
What happened?
It feels better in use, alot better. But they killed the startup.
Deal with it, remember the days back when any gui OS took like 3 minutes plus, thats still a decently fast boot speed, I’m used to having slow old equiptment, and my 10.0 with kde boots in about 1 min and 30 sec, gnome for me takes even longer, so its no longer installed, but if you don’t want to have a long boot up, use window maker, after suse itself boots, then window maker boots in less then 2 seconds, but its no where as fancy as kde.