http://www.osnews.com/story/15439/Microsoft_Phasing_in_Support_for_Dynamic_Languages_on_Net Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Sun, 19 May 2013 01:53:15 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread?150774 http://www.osnews.com/thread?150774 That's taken from TFA, but it really cries out for an edit.
How are we supposed to take eWeek seriously when they slice Guido out like that? Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (smitty_one_each) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?150806 http://www.osnews.com/thread?150806 And fail to understand the difference between a language and an implementation.

Anyway though...

This is actually fairly exciting to see. .Net 1.0-now has basically been: Look, you can use your C++ code and build on in a decent language! However, decent language meant C# or something else static and object oriented.

Now we're seeing dynamic languages, and functional languages (still object oriented, I think that's an absolute requirement for .net compatibility). So now you can build your application in Python/Ruby and C# for the more intricate parts or the parts that need the most raw speed. You could even go all the way to writing it in C++.

Of course, Python programmers have been able to mix Python with C for a long time. But let's be honest: Unless you're a good C programmer who's quite familiar with Python you're not in for a treat there. That doesn't mean the feature is useless, it just limits it to a smaller group of python programmers. And it also allows problems associated with C development to crawl into your, largely, Python program.


So we've gone from .Net:
C#, with a dumbified version for dummies called VB.Net. Plus you can combine it with your old C++ code! A platform for moving on...

To .Net:
C#, with dynamic languages such as Python. A platform to start new projects in...

That's my highly editorialized take. Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ma_d) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?150884 http://www.osnews.com/thread?150884 Unfortuantely the article was short on details, I would love to know what they mean to add. I would like to develop a specialized language using .NET. Wed, 09 Aug 2006 21:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (snowflake) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?150983 http://www.osnews.com/thread?150983 http://hlvm.org/ (High-Level Virtual Machine) is an open-source library that is adding dynamic language support to http://llvm.org/ (Low-Level Virtual Machine) which, in turn, is open-source and backed by Apple.

Hang on people we may be on for an interesting showdown yet! Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SamuraiCrow) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?151043 http://www.osnews.com/thread?151043 The most likely story is that LLVM is providing the garbage collection which is advocated in Object-C 2.0. Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kaiwai) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?151106 http://www.osnews.com/thread?151106 Does anyone know if IronPython works in Mono? I'm a long-time Python developer, and the potential for performance improvements is intruiging...

- chrish Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (chrish) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?151198 http://www.osnews.com/thread?151198 Does anyone know if IronPython works in Mono? I'm a long-time Python developer, and the potential for performance improvements is intruiging...

IronPython targets .NET and Mono, and has worked with previous releases of Mono out of the box. I don't know about the respective current releases, but it's worth a try. Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (n4cer) Comments