http://www.osnews.com/story/15502/Sun_to_Open-Source_Java_ME Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 21 May 2013 14:59:00 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread?152655 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152655 Not only Java ME, also Hotspot JVM and JavaC compiler will be open sourced. other parts will follow in 2007. Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ahmetaa) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?152667 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152667 Without mentioning which license they intend to use, the announcement isn't all that useful. Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (orestes) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?152676 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152676 Well... seems to me there is a post about this every 3 months. First, Sun is going to open source it. Then they're not. Then they are. Then they're not.

I'm not holding my breath. Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Shadowmane) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?152684 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152684 But with a non-free license so bad that even prevents some GNU/Linux distros from shipping with it. In my opinion, that is show-stopping and will dictate the Java fall. Apart from also being a "bleargh" language, that is. Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sodki) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?152690 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152690 well, license will be free, where are you getting your information? . even maybe GPL-like.. and java is not a "bleargh" language. it is a whole platform. Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ahmetaa) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?152691 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152691 what is stopping you using it now? Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ahmetaa) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?152720 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152720 All of Sun's open source licenses are OSI approved last I checked. This makes them "free" licenses. They just are not viral, and are not compatible with viral licenses, such as the GPL. This will not "prevent" GNU/Linux distros from shipping with it, that is a choice those distributions make. Get your facts straight before you spew false information.

As for being a "bleargh" language, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say - but it does seem you are trying to be negative. Bleargh back to you, and what is YOUR language of choice? Arguments can be made that ALL programming languages are "bleargh" Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ormandj) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?152744 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152744 The license will be one that THEY can rightfully use. You maybe unware that not all of Java is written by Sun. So the license that choose will also depend on how much other people would like to release.

Sun would like to use GPL (I assume you are a GPL fanboy) as they have done in many other projects, but GPL is a problem if not all code is releasable. Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (drdoug) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?152761 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152761 No, actually I couldn't give a damn less about the GPL.
My days of being a license fanboy are long gone.

I'd just like Sun to stop playing around and define terms. Wed, 16 Aug 2006 03:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (orestes) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?152793 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152793 That's good, I've always wanted to add my nifty java.lang.String.indexOfRegex() implementation to the Java source. Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (nrlz) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?152798 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152798 j2me implementations are all broken in various and different ways that make deployment of non-trivial applications a nightmare. This negates the write once, run everywhere proposition.

Licenses aside, this will be an opportunity to fix the reference implementation and make for a much stronger compliance testing. Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hashnet) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?152799 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152799 I would not define what they need to do is playing around. Java is not a "Hello World" sized app, therefore it takes time to make sure that any license changes they are doing is legal. Personally, I don't care what license they use, though it would be a nice sideshow if it is not GPL Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (drdoug) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?152803 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152803 See http://www.advogato.org/person/robilad/diary.html?start=103 for the details. Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (robilad) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?152814 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152814 well, is a good news.
so all os will usa standard java, no matter how small they are or witch hardware they use Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gelosilente) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?152913 http://www.osnews.com/thread?152913 dont think that open source governance will allow such API changes to be in the OS that easily. That is one of my fears, all LAnguage junkies who does not understand spirit of Java will try to add crap into the language and libraries now. Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ahmetaa) Comments