I just received an email from Bernd Korz informing me that the Zeta 1.21 live CD has been released for everybody to download. Korz says the first results from testers were very positive. The download page says: “Magnussoft ZETA 1.21 – An Operating System that provides a lot of new advantages combined with high performance besides general tools for your daily work.”
Thats definitely good news. I hope Magnussoft is taking Zeta to the next level giving us another choice in the OS Market.
On a different note:
Could some please confirm if the Live Cd Works in Vmware or Virtual PC. Thank you.
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as usual, awful webdesign…
but o/ for Zeta 1.21!!!
Why wont magnussoft get its act together and develop zeta to support booting from an iso fs, instead of these backwards bfs images and .cue files.
Yeah and this explains also previous comment why it usually doesn’t work in vmware or parallels
I have gotten it running in VMware just fine. Trick is to burn a physical CD, put it in the physical CD/DVD drive, and use CDROM RAW mode to access/boot to it in VMWare.
Also have to hit spacebar and choose the “failsafe” VESA graphics as VMware’s video chipset is not supported and looks HORRIBLE in Zeta.
Zeta 1.21 also has a vlance driver now to support the VMWare native network chipset.
I have a .vmx file laying around somewhere that I used recently…
RE: using ISO9660 – unfortunately BeOS/Zeta/Haiku currently require BFS to boot because the attributes are required for some purposes (I don’t know the details really)
Edited 2006-09-25 17:44
Very Sweet. Will download it tonight. Thank you umccullough
Very Sweet. Will download it tonight.
Ugh, now that I think of it… I’ve never actually tried the liveCD specifically in VMWare, only the full Zeta installation CD (which should boot the same way – right?)… I also will try it out tonight
If burning a cue file is beyond your grasp, maybe you shouldn’t be trying out alternitave operating systems.
The problem is that the only program in Linux that can burn it is Nero. And how hard can it be to support booting from an iso fs if even the most basic of os’s like visopsys and syllable can do it?
And how hard can it be to support booting from an iso fs if even the most basic of os’s like visopsys and syllable can do it?
You answered your own question I think
“Basic” OSes can boot from “basic” filesystems. I think a better question might be: Why can’t the LiveCD/Install CD be an ISO9660 with a BFS image on it which the bootloader locates and boots the kernel from?
The problem is that the only program in Linux that can burn it is Nero.
I have NOT tried this with the Zeta CD, so I could be completely off, but I’ve been able to burn images with a .cue file using cdrecord’s “cuefile=” argument.
It worked well for burining another non-standard filesystem image I had. I don’t think it supports every possible mode though.
Nero?! Perhaps try cdrdao?
The problem is that the only program in Linux that can burn it is Nero
Just thought to inform you that cdrdao and atleast Gnomebaker should burn .cue files, too. Cheers =)
Toast on the Mac complains about a lack of a bin file.
k3b… and the list goes on
k3b fails to burn Zeta Live CD. Period!
It was complaining “file does not seem to be valid cue file” or such something.
I had to fire up my NeroExpress and now I have my ZetaCD.
Yeah, K3B will burn a .cue file based CD image correctly. You just have to know how to use the program.
It would be nice if the .cue file worked with any other burner software than Nero though because not everyone has Nero (or even Windows).
If creating a .cue file that isn’t broken is beyond your grasp, maybe you shouldn’t sell an alternative operating system.
You can’t have an ISO image of any BeOS version becuase all of the files need to be held on a BeFS partition on the CD as the installed requires the meta data the file system contains. If you put them all onto an ISO 9660 file system you loose all of the meta data etc. without which BeOS won’t even boot. It is not hard to burn the floppy disk boot image and the main installer disk image under windows or Linux. You can do it with free tools, instructions available here http://www.beosmax.org/wiki/index.php/Instructions_on_burning_a_BeO…
Just use nero or nero for linux to make it easy 🙂
Works like a charm on FC5.
Edited 2006-09-26 04:46
Is it just me or are the download links not working?
I’m downlading now just fine at 200K/s
Posting this from live-cd through VMWare server, using daemon-tools mounted cue sheet.
Running fine, tho mouse is a bit funky at times – prob a vmware issue.
Used Windows 98 profile, vesa safemode.
using daemon-tools mounted cue sheet.
AH! why didn’t I think of that?! – I always forget that daemon-tools (and other virtual cdrom software) usually support cue sheets
You have just got to crack a smile at the live-cd filename;
Apparently i’m downloading a LifeCD
Oh! and use a download manager where you can resume downloads, because the transfer seems a little flaky ATM…
When you get lost on a raft in the middle of the ocean, you’d be glad you had downloaded the LifeCD.
Let’s hear it for your German then
1. They need _one_ ISO image
2. The download is around 10 KB (10 hours)
Blame your ISP, blame infrastructure, not their server – i’m at 80% since i made my last post about an hour ago.
[edit]ok, you didn’t point any fingers, so scratch that part about their server
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Edited 2006-09-25 19:22
Same here. I abandoned the download because it’s so terribly slow. And my ISP is fine thanks. I am pretty sure a torrent would download better as it always does.
I should have made a program for burning the Zeta LiveCD more easily. I started it, but there’s something wrong with my Windows (so CD writing interfaces and other stuff doesn’t work well) and thought they would finally do this themselves.
(They can’t use an ISO file because of the BeFS filesystem.)
(Hmm, link down, probably too many like me trying to download at once…)
Edited 2006-09-25 19:53
I hope Zeta and BeOS will survive…
I hope so, too.
But, if not, well …
Back to the Live CD! My first impressions:
– The Video Editor does not work in any way (an absolutely horrible piece of software). According to German Forums a completely new written version is on the way, but not for Zeta 1.21.
– The BePodder Demo has expired, so it won’t even start.
But the “rest” of the Live CD is very interesting (Firefox 2.0 Beta, a lot of bugfixes, a Gobe Trial version and so on). The Live CD runs very quickly and seems to be “stable”. Nice work!!!
I was quite impressed as well. Very snappy. They’ve also included ipw2200 wireless drivers, which is kind of cool.
Too bad i couldn’t use usb though. I had to rip all my usb devices out to make it boot. It froze on loading EHCI module or something like that. I tried to connect my mouse, after a clean boot, but it did freeze anyway.
But other than that, very nice
(Rember that you can bring up a boot menu, right before it loads zeta, to enable safe mode and such…)
When I try to burn the cue file in Nero it crashes nero.
Any suggestions?
Is there a cli way of killing not responding apps on Zeta,like for example on linux?
The firefox browser suddenly said do it yourself.
Zeta is posix compliant, so you can use the same commands as in Linux to kill from a terminal.
If it’s unable to find the .BIN file, try opening the .CUE file with a text editor, and enter the full path to where the .BIN file is.
point being there are no “bin” files. The cue sheet is correct. The programs are just expecting something different. Even editing the file extensions and cue file to match expectations doesn’t work. I have to burn the zip file for now and take the thing home to burn on my beos machine.