http://www.osnews.com/story/16133/The_Secret_Failures_of_Microsoft Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:35:17 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?170752 http://osnews.com/thread?170752 Anyway, Apple succeeded.
People will still call everything an iPod. Edited 2006-10-11 15:18 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (makc) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?170753 http://osnews.com/thread?170753 that's why they can't get outside the Windows Box.

MS doesn't have a flavour or any company style. They make the best tools. But they can't generate excitement nor lust nor anything else. They can't seem to hype their own stuff. Most people don't know that MovieMaker comes with XP. Go look at Apple's site. They show their toys.

MS is like Linux. It's bound to geekdom. And everybody knows that too much of something is bad. Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ronaldst) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?170825 http://osnews.com/thread?170825 oh, ok they have failed in most their post 2003 projects. Vista might be an success. but it will be one of their first in a long while, and my guess is that zune will flop extremly in the eu. I dont know about the american market but its just my educated guess that it will there too just as the wma flopped big time. Wed, 11 Oct 2006 17:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (judgen) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?170844 http://osnews.com/thread?170844 I disagree.
If MS is run by geeks, then by Sales- and marketing geeks. They do not (by far) make "the best tools" whatsoever, but they DO know who and how to persuade to get their stuff sold. As an example, very few sysadmins I know would voluntarily put MS products on their servers. They do because they're told to by their managers who get fed bullshit by MS' sales machine who tries to convince them that they wouldn't be "compatible" or "up to date" if Windows/Exchange/SQL server/whatever wouldn't run on their system. "Get the fact"-FUD campaign, anyone? Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Riddic) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?170858 http://osnews.com/thread?170858 MS is run by geeks

It is?

that's why they can't get outside the Windows Box.

Windows is about the ungeekiest thing I can think of besides towels.

MS doesn't have a flavour or any company style.

Well, that's true.

They make the best tools.

Cough!

They can't seem to hype their own stuff.

Excuse me? Everytime you switch on a tv, read a tech/business headline, use a computer, MicrosoftMicrosoftMicrosoft. With MS products, hype is just about all you do get.

MS is like Linux. It's bound to geekdom.

That's the oddest statement I ever heard. "MS is not like Linux" is probably the only thing MS and I would agree on. Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (twenex) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?170879 http://osnews.com/thread?170879 I don't think consumer hardware failure by MS is a secret in any sense, its even published in quarterly financial filings

Its been apparent for some time that beyond mice and keyboards (financially speaking) MS has made no money from consumer hardware products.

I consider the xbox a success at least from a usability standpoint and quality standpoint. It may not have made any money for MS but its a solid product.

Zune and PlaysForSh*t are a failure and bound to fail further. Wed, 11 Oct 2006 19:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Bit_Rapist) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?170886 http://osnews.com/thread?170886 For me, it's the Ameri-centric slant. Microsoft don't cater for European diveristy (and uniqueness) enough.

I swear by their mice though, even as a Mac user. I wouldn't use anything other than an MS Intellimouse, or an Apple wireless. Wed, 11 Oct 2006 19:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kroc) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?170888 http://osnews.com/thread?170888 Windows is about the ungeekiest thing I can think of besides towels.

Towels, which as any self-respecting geek would tell you, are pretty useful things to take with you if you intend to hike your way across the galaxy.

OTOH, you don't need windows for that. Wed, 11 Oct 2006 19:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jebb) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?170893 http://osnews.com/thread?170893 Hate to break it to you: it's because ur a MS hater.

And yes, I forgive you. I was an MS hater once myself. Wed, 11 Oct 2006 20:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ronaldst) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?170895 http://osnews.com/thread?170895 But the whole thing is still run by Geeks. How many CEOs would do a Matrix skit at their conferences? TabletPC (star trek fans)? I don't think there is a corporation that has that much geek in it than MS.

MS' stuff is great. You should learn to use their software instead of just brushing them to the side like that because of your negative emotional investment in MS.

PS: Don't be a hater. Repent. Wed, 11 Oct 2006 20:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ronaldst) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?170915 http://osnews.com/thread?170915 heh,
reminds me of people that call any PDA a "palm" Wed, 11 Oct 2006 20:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mini-me) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?170935 http://osnews.com/thread?170935 Or even worse: newspapers printing 'ipods and mp3-players' *shudder* Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Ronald Vos) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?170936 http://osnews.com/thread?170936 I suggest to you the Logitech MX500. It is the best of it's stablemates, I suspect within a week or two of use, you'd agree with me - even if it's not wireless! Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (CowMan) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?170969 http://osnews.com/thread?170969 That doesn't mean there aren't good reasons for hating MS. There are. Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (twenex) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?170991 http://osnews.com/thread?170991 ronaldst: But the whole thing is still run by Geeks.
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I thought MS is run by barbarians under the fearsome leader Bill Gates? I might be wrong on the fearsome part, though.

EDIT: grammar, for pete's sake.Edited 2006-10-11 23:34 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (B. Janssen) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?171053 http://osnews.com/thread?171053 I liked the article. The man made very much sense. To me,that is. Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Budd) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?171073 http://osnews.com/thread?171073 That is probably the "on-trackest" article I ever read! Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (twenex) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?171102 http://osnews.com/thread?171102 But the whole thing is still run by Geeks. How many CEOs would do a Matrix skit at their conferences? TabletPC (star trek fans)? I don't think there is a corporation that has that much geek in it than MS

IMHO Google must have more despite having less people overall.

MS' stuff is great. You should learn to use their software instead of just brushing them to the side like that because of your negative emotional investment in MS

If MS stuff was so great, you shouldn't have to learn their software so hard.
Up until today, I'm still aggravated with MS products at work (namely Outlook today, Windows zealots at work blaming me for an Outlook bug that recreate a directory and the options I deleted, at each Windows reboot).
I've known Windows before knowing Linux, and yet, I manage to have far less problems and have way more efficient and reliable products under Linux, all better than any MS product I ever used.
And I'm really annoyed by all the people like you that blame others because they can't blame products from the god MS. Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Ookaze) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?171117 http://osnews.com/thread?171117 If Microsoft made nothing but mice and keyboards, I'd consider them a reputable corporation. To bad they can't promote the heads of *that* department! Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (llanitedave) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?171156 http://osnews.com/thread?171156 Yep.

There are good reasons for hating everything.

Myself, I prefer to judge products individually and not based on the company. Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sappyvcv) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?171170 http://osnews.com/thread?171170 The quality (ahem) of its products is one of the reasons I hate the company. A product like Windows should have been buried, not ubiquitous. Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (twenex) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?171247 http://osnews.com/thread?171247 But they do have good products. Again, judge indivdually. What's so hard about that? Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sappyvcv) Comments