Qualcomm on Wednesday joined up with the Mozilla Foundation to announce it is transitioning Eudora into an open source e-mail client that will be based upon Thunderbird. In turn, all future versions of Eudora will be free and Qualcomm will discontinue the current paid client. Although it may seem like Eudora is simply abandoning its e-mail software, which has a small but strong following of loyal users, the company claims the Thunderbird-based client will retain “Eudora’s uniquely rich feature set and productivity enhancements”.
God won’t talk unless you uphold your end of the conversation. I have a reminder window that pops-up asking if you’ve made an offering. It’s funny to call that ad-based. Hilarious in fact… I can’t stop laughing.
WHOMEVER PROOF FAINT MISTAKEN WISDOM’S
FILLEST U WRITING OURSELVES PACIFIC
THOU LINKED MAGICAL ABOMINABLE
GOODNESS EMBLEM RESIGNED DELIVERING
TAMER THOMAS SUBLIMER THIN VOICE
COMMUNITIES CONSUMEST HATRED
SUBJOINS COMPLAINT MINGLING OCCUPY
SUBMIT CONCEPTION AWAITED CRITICS
NAMELY UNREASONING SATISFIED
ASSENTING FILES COUNTERMANDING
PREEMINENT FURY HEARTEDNESS NARROWER
DISTANT MATURING HCAVY POSTED
PREFERENCE INSURANCE SLEW LOSE
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SO HEALED WITTINGLY QUIT DATA
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Eudora was actually my first e-mail client back in the win95 days. It was also my first webmail (@eudoramail.com or something like that, I was 12 or 13 lol)
It’s had some good times and bad times, I stopped using it long ago though – just never seemed worth it and I rarely use e-mail clients at all anymore. Thunderbird I tend to use on occassion, and I’d like to use Kmail but without windows support I’m not sure I can…yet…
I sincerely hope Qualcomm and Mozilla team up and merge some of the features of their clients. Maybe this will benefit us all.
it was THE email client when i started using emails. I wonder if mozilla will utalise the power of the brand, or stick with thunderbird
Thunderbird is strong and stable client. While Mozilla should never stop the Eudora builds and support and enhancements… cause if it is open source you will always find some one to maintain it… the advantage? … you have one more choice via open source as email client!
cause if it is open source you will always find some one to maintain it…
WILL? ALWAYS? Some strong words there.
Actually we have seen over the last few years *TONS* of open-source projects being abandonned. Check out Sourceforge and Freshmeat. When you don’t make money out of your work, you have to be very commited to keep your project alive.
Agreed fully. Sometimes the whole ideal falls flat on it’s face.
i wonder if Qualcomm is going to hand over some open source goodies in the form of enhanced functionality in Thunderbird. Cross your fingers that this deal isn’t a one way street.
Had you read the article…
Qualcomm on Wednesday joined up with the Mozilla Foundation to announce it is transitioning Eudora into an open source e-mail client that will be based upon Thunderbird. In turn, all future versions of Eudora will be free and Qualcomm will discontinue the current paid client.
(emphasis added)
It will be open source.
Further more, it’s even an official mozilla project, that will accept 3rd party contributions.
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope
From the project entry at the mozilla wiki: “The “Penelope” project’s intention is to join the Eudora® user experience with the Mozilla platform. We intend to produce a version of Eudora that is open source and based on mozilla and Thunderbird. It’s *not* our intention to compete with Thunderbird; rather, we want to complement it.”
Thanks, BUTT FACE. I read the f–king article.
What I was saying is that, having not used Eudora for at least a f–king century, if this means that the open source Eudora will be of the same functionality as Thunderbird but is essentially just rebranded, or if Qualcomm is going to get off their asses and actually give us some decent code instead of basically stealing Thunderbird and sticking a Eudora logo on it.
Thanks for being a complete asshole.
It looks like they’re going to be adding code. As for giving any back, that probably depends on the terms of the Mozilla Public License whether or not they have to.
Of course, if they’re hoping to get help from the Thunderbird community like they say, they better WANT to.
TRANSITION IS NOT A f–kING VERB.
Wrong:
Main Entry: 2transition
Function: intransitive verb
: to make a transition <while they transition to a new, career-oriented lifestyle — Sarah Bright>
– m-w.com
BTW, It’s also an andverb and adjective.
TRANSITION IS NOT A f–kING VERB.
Come back and complain in such a rude manner when YOU speak 3 languages fluently, and can understand 4.
Meh, I’m not really blaming you. A lot of people use it. It’s just a horrible, horrible abuse of the language introduced by vacuous suits who want to make boring simple changes sound exciting and whizzy. Sigh.
“Come back and complain in such a rude manner when YOU speak 3 languages fluently, and can understand 4.”
Not like it’s that hard… He doesn’t have to react that rude, but the defence is rather poor.
Edit: Typo grmbl, there goes my attack, lol.
Edited 2006-10-11 22:08
but the defence is rather poor.
It is NOT a poor defense. English is not my first language, and as such, errors may occur, that is inevitable. You are free to point out errors to me, as it will only improve my English– however, not in this manner. As simple as that.
Dutch is my first language, and if someone wants to act like a rude ass to me because I might make a mistake in my English, I first suggest that someone learns to say the same things in Dutch I say in English. THEN we’ll talk.
It is simply extremely impolite and outright rude to treat people like me, who go through all the trouble of acquiring several foreign languages, like shit just because we might make a mistake.
It’s not like native speakers are in the flawless biz a lot.
In Thom’s defence, plenty native speakers make the mistake of “inventing” new words (or misusing them) when one (or more) that already exist(s) will do just as well. English just happens to be particularly susceptible to this type of bastardization. Examples: “transition” as verb; “productize;” “product” (concrete noun, used to describe an abstract service); “burglarize” (for which the verb is “burgle” and the agent noun is “burglar”, as “paint” is to “painter,” and “saw” is to “sawyer”).
As an old girlfriend of mine says:
You can wordify anything if you just verb it.
One can speak a language (or three) fluently and still make serious mistakes in usage from time to time, so multi-language fluency is not really meaningful in the context of this discussion.
FWIW, though, your usage is correct as far as I’m concerned, so don’t sweat it. Folks who harp in public about grammatical errors often do so because they have little else to contibute. 🙁
Great – this looks exciting and promising. Eudora was my favorite email client. Lets see how it will grow now.
For a moment there I thought it said “Qualcomm Hands Off Eugenia to Mozilla”. I couldn’t for the life of me figure out if that ment they were fighting over her or if Qualcom owned her and was giving her to Mozilla.
ROTFL!
“Although it may seem like Eudora is simply abandoning its e-mail software”
Nice words but nonetheless the company _is_ ditching its codebase to put some makeup on another codebase. It’s a sad moment and the end of a glorious alternative. 🙁
Let’s hope that at least Qualcomm will help improve Thunderbird’s UI which is so-so.
When I began using computers, I soon abandoned Outlook Express for Eudora, there wasn’t much choice in Windows at the time.
But when I began to use Linux I soon realized that there were better e-mail clients.
I almost immediately embraced Thunderbird when the first development releases began to appear.
Now Thunderbird is not perfect, but what sense could it make to use a commercial client when you could use a better free one? I bet a lot of people have a similar story to tell, hence the wisdom of this choice.
i don’t like Thunderbird at all
i don’t like Thunderbird at all
I don’t either. I use Opera’s M2 E-mail client, it’s excellent.
Rock on!! M2 is awesome. My 1st choice in mail clients.
I also like Sylpheed-Claws, and Mutt. As far as ThunderBird goes, I never really cared for it much.
/2 cents
Edited 2006-10-12 07:29
That is why choice is a good thing (TM)
that’s what microsoft tries to take away from you and me and every one
Like a lot of you I have been using Eudora from way back. However in the last several major releases I can’t see that it has made much progress at all.
There was a short period where I tried a few other email clients but I had grown use to Eudora’s interface and quirks. Other than the horrible search feature there really isn’t anything to complain about, even with the ads.
I am interested to see what will happen with it now, but I am having a hard time imagining what will be added / change with it to pull me away from Gmail.
Eudora was my first email client ever. And I loved it. I also miss some features, for example, writing an email and postponing it to some date and time. Very good for writing birthday congratulations for your friends while you remember the date. 🙂
I also remember I moved from Eudora to Outlook Express because of poor handling of HTML email. Then I moved to TheBat! (Russian email super-monster), then to the cross-platform Thunderbird, because I have to keep the same mailbox files both at home and at work.
Eudora is this is hardly a surprise… if Thunderbird is bloated, Eudora needs Richard Simmons’ help at a whopping 16 meg download… What is it written in? Visual Basic? (ooh, cheap shot)
As mentioned though, Thunderbird is no prize pig either at a whopping 6 megs… For something with the functionality we had back on windows 3.1 with a 250-300k .exe
I mean seriously, what the {censored} are they doing with 6 megs? Of course, that gets VERY well pointed out by Opera, who’s 4.6 meg download includes a browser AND a e-mail client AND full fledged RSS reader AND a widgets engine AND AND AND…
I’m surprised if theirs any Eudora users left, I downloaded the trial a couple of months back and thought the UI left little to be desired.
That aside, like many people here it was also my first e-mail client although I didn’t have a say in the matter as I had to use it at work!
Exactly, this is what I found too, Eudora’s UI is so 90’s-ish… It hasn’t changed for years. I seems QUALCOMM stopped caring about their product after some time…