http://www.osnews.com/story/16186/Debian_To_Keep_Leader_Release_etch_Sooner Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:01:41 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?172100 http://osnews.com/thread?172100 The people have spoken. Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sphinx) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?172127 http://osnews.com/thread?172127 First we hear that Vista will meet its latest shipping deadline and now comes news that Debian Etch will actually ship ahead of schedule. Next thing you know dogs and cats will start setting up house together! What's the world coming too? Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (cmost) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?172136 http://osnews.com/thread?172136 By earlier release, I believe that they are refering to the lack of a delay due to the frimware issue. Typical to Debian, Etch will be released when it is TECHNICALLY ready, though there still will be POLITICAL problems. The title is confusing with regards to this. However, since they have accepted the Dunc-Tank issue, we may very well see Etch released early. Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Excel Hearts Choi) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?172141 http://osnews.com/thread?172141 A very wise decision. Keep on rockin' ! Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (deb2006) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?172156 http://osnews.com/thread?172156 Agreed. But it was imho from the very start "Much ado about nothing". And: Etch is a fine release already. Keep up the good work, guys! Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (arctic) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?172161 http://osnews.com/thread?172161 I was getting sick of problems in ubuntu, like trying to upgrade. Upgrading in debian has always been smoother, and ever since the patch directly from ubuntu that broke my system I have lost confidence in ubuntu and their way they patch(or in that case test patches). I have switched to debian because I can count on them to keep my system stable, do you trust ubuntu to do the same? Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sc3252) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?172165 http://osnews.com/thread?172165 Which patch?

The 6 month upgrade cycle sucks, IMO, but it seems like most distros have moved to it. You can pretty much expect to reinstall every 6 months if you use a distro that follows that path and want to stay current. On the other hand, you could run Slack or Arch or any of several source based distros if you are worried about what patches are being applied to your packages. Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zombie process) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?172186 http://osnews.com/thread?172186 It's not important that Debian Switch to a 1 year, or 6 month cycle because everybody else it doing it. And the thing about most distros requiring a clean install every 6 month DOES NOT apply to Debian. Really.

The big advantage to a more timely release cycle for Debian is that it will encourage more people (Other than server farms) to run 'stable'. As it stands pretty much everybody runs testing or unstable. Getting this release out on time, won't change the fact that most users run testing or unstable, but if they can do this for a couple of years, they may very well end up with a more normal distribution of users between, stable, testing, and unstable. This can only be a good thing as it would allow conservative users to run stable without feeling like they are in the stone age, testing for the bleeding edge folks, and would give unstable more room to be unstable.

Then again, I'm typing this from a Debian Unstable box Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Shade) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?172187 http://osnews.com/thread?172187 I didn't mean to include debian in the list of 6 month distros. Of course, debian stable would be pretty far down on my list of desktop choices because of it's, erm, "stability." Then again, I'm a die hard Archer - what can I say? Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zombie process) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?172346 http://osnews.com/thread?172346 A release cycle of ~ 1,5 years should fit the bill, IMHO. The release cycle up to Potatoe was fine. From Potatoe to Woody it was just a bit too long and from Woody to Sarge it was a disaster in my opinion. I hope they're able to release in December this year.

I know: Once it's stable, it'll be released. I still think it's good to have a somewhat realistic idea about the time this takes.

Ubuntu rushes the releases which is exactly the contrary to Debian. It's just too bleeding edge - for me. And no, I don't trust Ubuntu in this respect - you really wouldn't if you ran a bunch of servers, Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (deb2006) Comments