http://www.osnews.com/story/16233/PC-BSD_1_3_Beta_Released Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:38:27 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?173076 http://osnews.com/thread?173076 During the GUI install you have the opportunity to enable the OpenBSD pf firewall.Awesome :-) Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (netpython) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173084 http://osnews.com/thread?173084 Things seem to be moving along smoothly.
I really like this OS. Nice and solid. Now that the developers have more financial backing and more time to spend on working out the bugs, this system can only get better!

Keep up the good work! Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (solidsnake) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173093 http://osnews.com/thread?173093 I plan to replace OpenSuSE 10 with PC-BSD. Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Edward) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173096 http://osnews.com/thread?173096 I've been following this project for a while, and it's so much better than other *nix systems. It just works, and almost no customization is necessary... My only problem was with CUPS. The screenshots look good. I'll wait the final release though. Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Joe User) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173109 http://osnews.com/thread?173109 I've been suffering trying to use FreeBSD as a desktop system for years. While their ports/package system work great for server usage, they fall apart when trying to use for large desktop applications (like X, Gnome, OpenOffice) due to the number of security bugs and time to compile these huge monsters. Enter PC-BSD. Everything is automated and just works. It is not only the easiest BSD to use, but I would say it competes with Windows, Mac in the ease of use department. While PBIs are terrible for server usage, they are a godsend for workstation usage. Kudos to the great job the PCBSD team is doing. Now I could live in a BSD world, using FreeBSD on my servers and PCBSD on my workstations.

PCBSD/FreeBSD are the Ubuntu/Debian combo of the BSD world. Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Don T. Bothers) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173113 http://osnews.com/thread?173113 Improved? by this i assume they mean "We now look more amatuerish and windows like than ever before, we rock!"

is this the default theme and UI font? Horrible!Edited 2006-10-19 17:46 Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (anonymousbrowser) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173119 http://osnews.com/thread?173119 I use Windows, Ubuntu, FC6, and PC-BSD - I'm beginning to prefer PC-BSD. Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (twanj) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173132 http://osnews.com/thread?173132 "Is this the default theme and UI font? Horrible!"

Maybe, but, hey, you can do everything you want to make your desktop look better.
This is my PCBSD desktop:
http://www.geocities.com/n_visnjic/pcbsd/ssPCBSD4.jpg
and how about this:
http://www.geocities.com/n_visnjic/pcbsd/ssPCBSD3.jpg

PSBSD is definitely something you can customize and tweak the way you want.
"I plan to replace OpenSuSE 10 with PC-BSD"
I did it a year ago since PCBSD proved to be better
choice for my Pentium II 450 MHz than SuSE 10. Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (nedvis) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173137 http://osnews.com/thread?173137 the new look and feel is ugly!

Why do you copy Vista? Don't they have own ideas? Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SK8T) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173144 http://osnews.com/thread?173144 PC-BSD is just absolutely wonderful. Looking at the release schedule there is a point release every month. How about that for progress. With iXsystems backing it this operating system is going to be a real contender on the desktop. Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TaterSalad) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173150 http://osnews.com/thread?173150 isn't the look and feel the one from kubuntu? well i like it a lot better than the old one! but if you don't like it...just switch it Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dean_fry) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173158 http://osnews.com/thread?173158 We target regular users who are for most of them MS Windows users and while we don't want to copy MS Windows, there are things that these users feel more comfortable with, such as crystal look and feel or a "Start" menu.

Adapting to the tastes of our target user base is critical for massive adoption. PC-BSD targets users who don't need to be computer savvy to use Unix, and also offers a fully-functional FreeBSD system for developers and system administrators to feel at home. Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Charles A Landemaine) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173159 http://osnews.com/thread?173159 I like PC-BSD to give it to other people who want to have an operating system on their computer (instead of a replacement made by MICROS~1). PC-BSD does a good job, but lacks a few applications that really rue, e. g. the Midnight Commander or X-Chat. The german internationalization could be much better as well, but other ways than the seldom used GETTEXT don't be in the focus of the PC-BSD developers.

The GUI doesn't look good. It looks too much like... you know what it looks like. Why has everythink to look this way? Looking childish, playful...

And - by default - some strange TCP and UDP ports seem to be open. I could state this as I had a PC-BSD machine on the network here at work. That should NOT be the default behaviour. This could be a security risk...

The PBI package system is quite cool and makes it easy to install applications. Because it's a FreeBSD, you can use the "old fashioned" ways of installing applications as well, make install, pkg_add and portinstall. You have the strong features of BSD plus the easy tools for administration. This composition is great.

Finally, I have to admit, thatt I prefer a "real handmade" FreeBSD installation with WindowMaker. :-)Edited 2006-10-19 19:34 Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Doc Pain) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173170 http://osnews.com/thread?173170 Anyone know if the wpi driver from OpenBSD has been ported over? Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (justinc) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173172 http://osnews.com/thread?173172 When I first saw a screenshot of Vista, I thought it looked liked they borrowed the window decor from something on the window decor list of KDE. PC-BSD is not trying to be so different that it scares away potential first time users. Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (solidsnake) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173189 http://osnews.com/thread?173189 Anyone know if the wpi driver from OpenBSD has been ported over?

Not yet, we got ipw right now.

NAME
ipw -- Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 IEEE 802.11 driver

SYNOPSIS
To compile this driver into the kernel, place the following lines in your
kernel configuration file:

device ipw
device pci
device wlan

Alternatively, to load the driver as a module at boot time, place the
following lines in loader.conf(5):

if_ipw_load="YES"
wlan_load="YES" Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (antik) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173201 http://osnews.com/thread?173201 How about ipw2200

I have two laptops, guess which cards I have...

Trying an install on a desktop and the mouse isn't working during the install. I had to pass *2* no acpi cause the installer dumped.

Thanks, Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (justinc) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173212 http://osnews.com/thread?173212 agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xefffffff at device 0. 0 on pci0

panic: pmap_mapdev: Couldn't alloc kernel virtual memory

Uptime: 1s
Automatic reboot in 15 seconds


Boot with ACPI disabled doesn't work after install either.

Dropped my overclocking down and disabled speed spectrum on the mobo, still no go

Safe Mode Panics
Single User Mode Panics

Option 5 -verbose logging....spins through and reboots it self before I can see anything, what I can catch is something to do with pmap.

So guess I got to figure out what pmap_mapdev is.

Are there any options at the loader prompt I can try?

Thank you,

P.S. I'll post on the user forum too.
P.P.S I use Linux on here daily, Solaris 11ish and Freebsd 6.1

http://forums.pcbsd.org/viewtopic.php?p=35838#35838 Edited 2006-10-19 22:12 Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (justinc) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173215 http://osnews.com/thread?173215 How about ipw2200

Port: iwi-firmware-2.4_7
Path: /usr/ports/net/iwi-firmware
Info: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 Driver Firmware
Maint: flz@FreeBSD.org
B-deps:
R-deps:
WWW: http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/

Port: iwi-firmware-kmod-3.0_1
Path: /usr/ports/net/iwi-firmware-kmod
Info: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 Firmware Kernel Module
Maint: flz@FreeBSD.org
B-deps:
R-deps:
WWW: http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/ Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (antik) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173287 http://osnews.com/thread?173287 I'm gonna wait till 1.4 release to install it on Notebook.. since 1.4 has PPPOE connectivity. Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TusharG) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173340 http://osnews.com/thread?173340 PCBSD does one thing none of the Linux distros I use has done with this system It configures my display to 1280x1024. Now why can't Linux bet it right?

Anyway, that was one of the nicest installs I have done. Clean and informative. This is a keeper. Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (protagonist) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173341 http://osnews.com/thread?173341 Are you sure that it isn't Redmond that has copied KDE ? Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (flywheel) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173345 http://osnews.com/thread?173345 Will the install program handle extended partitions ?

The last time I tried PC-BSD, my primary OS was almost wiped out, my sencondary was totally wiped out - only WinXP was untouched because as preinstalled OS it was located on a primary partition. Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (flywheel) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173347 http://osnews.com/thread?173347 The new install wiz look great. I'm thrilled that a server installation is possible. I've always wanted a FreeBSD om my server - and have tried a couple of times - but always endded up with an OpenSUSE.

I've had plans to replace the OpenSUSE with an eComStation on the server, but this news will make me rethink that plan again. Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (flywheel) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173351 http://osnews.com/thread?173351 Ah I got my answer in the Quick guide :

PC-BSD only recognizes primary partitions and considers logical partitions as a whole primary partition. Trying to install on a logical partition will convert your extended partition into a primary partition and erase all logical partitions of your system.

OK, then no PC-BSD on my laptops nor my desktop machines Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (flywheel) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173375 http://osnews.com/thread?173375 agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xefffffff at device 0. 0 on pci0

That's strange,i also have a nvidia nforce3-250 chipset.But can't reproduce the above error message. Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (netpython) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173385 http://osnews.com/thread?173385 I'm gonna wait till 1.4 release to install it on Notebook.. since 1.4 has PPPOE connectivity.

You can use this tutorial in the meantime: http://faqs.pcbsd.org/6_17_en.html Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Charles A Landemaine) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173391 http://osnews.com/thread?173391 i tried out pc-bsd 1.0 back then, and it was a joy to use, except that there were minor hiccups in that my graphic tablet didn't work, and i never got my printer to work (though that could be simply user stupidity on my part; i'm not CUPS-savvy).

anyway, for the most part, it auto-detected the other components of my system, and it was a joy to use. i thought i'd wait some time before using it again, so that more PBI software will be available, as well as better hardware support.

time to play around with the little red devil again. Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (vinzer) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173400 http://osnews.com/thread?173400 Yeah, I assume that has nothing to do with it, just cp the top most part of the error message. Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (justinc) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?173637 http://osnews.com/thread?173637 What does your kernel config look like? Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (netpython) Comments