http://www.osnews.com/story/16269/Windows_Defender_Final_Released Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Thu, 23 May 2013 05:45:16 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread?174616 http://www.osnews.com/thread?174616 The best Windows defender is not to use Windows!
Pity you are "required" to have extra software running to protect your system.

Time to change your OS.... Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (drdoug) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?174637 http://www.osnews.com/thread?174637 No, this product is to attract all viruses and spy to it so Windows can be more clean. You know even Windows doesn't have antivirus, all viruses go to it, if they say "Anti-virus", all virus "vendors" who would say "is it really? let me try". Probably this software has a way to separate all viruses from windows, makes itself sick but not windows, so it's more like a qurantine software. Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (andyleung) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?174641 http://www.osnews.com/thread?174641 what ?? Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (REM2000) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?174659 http://www.osnews.com/thread?174659 Agreed...that comment seems incoherent. Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Bobmeister) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?174661 http://www.osnews.com/thread?174661 No, this product is to attract all viruses and spy to it so Windows can be more clean.

Sorry, you're not right in here. The capabilities for spreading malware, for having automated advertising ans SPAM, for data espionage, for remote controlling etc. that are included in "Windows" attract the viruses, not the "Defender".

Probably this software has a way to separate all viruses from windows, makes itself sick but not windows, so it's more like a qurantine software.

That's right, but it will take time, in fact, very much time. It costs MICROS~1 time and money to include the gained knowledge about different viruses, trojans, malware etc. in their product development. Just imagine how the amount of SPAM filling the Internet would decrease if "Outlook" wouldn't be that remote-controllabe.

BTW: "Windows" administration and the work to do the proper settings often can't be done by the average users. Proof: SPAM. Users simply say: "I don't care about security, I just go there and clickity-click." Products like "Defenter" will strengthen this mis-belief, I assume.

Time will tell if "Defender" can do good work in protecting other people on the Internet from beeing victims of data sabotation. Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Doc Pain) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?174666 http://www.osnews.com/thread?174666 Too bad it won't install over Beta 1, because on several machines I've tested it on, Beta 1 won't uninstall. Even following the kbase articles that attempt chopping it out with a hypothetical axe doesn't work.

Perhaps this is worth taking anther stab at evicting Beta 1... Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mahlerrd) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?174698 http://www.osnews.com/thread?174698 I followed the link to the download site from the article, and was confronted with the Genuine Windows validation. Since I was currently in Ubuntu using Firefox, it was a bit difficult. However, I downloaded the Genuinewhatever.exe, ran it in wine, pasted the resulting string back into the validation process, and now have the Windowshowsis.msi that I copied over to my XP/Linux data partition for later install, when I wander back to the dark side for my gaming fix. Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (egon_spengler) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?174715 http://www.osnews.com/thread?174715 "...long-time-in-the-making Anti-Spyware program, Windows Defender"

You mean the long-time-in-the-rebranding of Anti-Spyware program Giant Antispyware. Microsoft didn't 'make' WD.

Remember Microsoft's motto:
"When in doubt, buy them out." Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kroc) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?174724 http://www.osnews.com/thread?174724 Remember Microsoft's motto:
"When in doubt, buy them out."

Well ... it seems to have gotten them 97% of the desktop market.

Of course RedHat has bought Sistina, JBoss, Cygnus and more. Does that make them Microsoft-lite? Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (NotParker) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?174736 http://www.osnews.com/thread?174736 Microsoft specifically have a habbit of buying out companies because they're late to the market. Case in point: Internet Explorer. Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kroc) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?174740 http://www.osnews.com/thread?174740 No, this product is to attract all viruses and spy to it so Windows can be more clean. You know even Windows doesn't have antivirus, all viruses go to it,

I actually got a headache trying to make sense of this. However...

if they say "Anti-virus", all virus "vendors" who would say "is it really? let me try". Probably this software has a way to separate all viruses from windows, makes itself sick but not windows, so it's more like a qurantine software.

This I understand, and agree with. Should be fun seeing what happens. Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mypinkshrimp) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?174760 http://www.osnews.com/thread?174760 *sigh* it's simple math, and is a formula used by IT departments all the time: which will cost less...developing the component in-house or purchasing it from a 3rd party. Most of the time it's more cost-effective to by the pre-built package and then tweak it to your liking. Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jayson.knight) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?174812 http://www.osnews.com/thread?174812 Internet Explorer was a case of licensing code, not buying a company. Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (n4cer) Comments