http://www.osnews.com/story/16338/AMD_Intros_ATI_Vista_Ready_Chips Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:23:37 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?176698 http://osnews.com/thread?176698 .....F'ing blah. For graphic innovations that are second to none, buy a Mac.

You'd think that Vista should be doing something cool with the graphics since it's basically residing totally in your graphics card.

You think the company execs really believe the BS they're spewing? They gotta be walking out of these press conferences laughing their asses off. Sun, 29 Oct 2006 23:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Phloptical) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?176706 http://osnews.com/thread?176706 ... but I'm an average Joe. I went through the Linux phase years ago, but then gave up when I needed to use something to get the job done with minimal effort - Windows. I am sill open to the option of Linux, but most likely once KDE 4 is out, and AIGLX is working well.

Now, I've been using WinXP for a while now (Actually 2000, but I got a pirated copy of XP and it seems to be alright), but for the love of me, I can't see the point in 'upgrading' to Vista any time soon, especially given the hardware requirements. I just don't care.

Given the price of the OS itself (ridiculous), and the hardware requirements, it makes an Mac a serious choice - especially one with a Core 2 CPU.

I don't know what the point of this post is, but I'm sure what I'm feeling isn't unique. A sea change away from MS products? Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anon) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?176708 http://osnews.com/thread?176708 "A sea change away from MS products?"

I don't think so. The $400 PC's being sold today support Vista and it won't be shipped to consumers 'till Jan or Feb of 07.

To most people "upgrade" means "buy new PC" anyway. Mon, 30 Oct 2006 01:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Jody) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?176715 http://osnews.com/thread?176715 What the heck does AIGLX have to do with "get(ting) the job done with minimal effort"? Other than expose effects and zoom I just don't see it (never mind that all that is possible without AIGLX, with the new nVidia drivers for instance).

More on topic: I don't get this announcement. I saw no mention of DirectX 10 (did I miss it?), so what's the point? Current graphics cards work just fine with Vista, they lack only DirectX 10. If ATI's new cards don't have that, WTH is this announcement for? I mean, 80nm process is nice and all, but really has nothing to do with Vista.. Mon, 30 Oct 2006 01:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MamiyaOtaru) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?176736 http://osnews.com/thread?176736 "ATI has since developed robust and performant drivers that highlight the capabilities of our new operating system"

Will they be able to make there GNU/Linux variant just as good ? Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Moulinneuf) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?176746 http://osnews.com/thread?176746 "The $400 PC's being sold today support Vista and it won't be shipped to consumers 'till Jan or Feb of 07.

To most people "upgrade" means "buy new PC" anyway."

Therefore, "Vista" ready chips will be ompletely uninteresting for consumers right now. Situation may change in the first quarter of 2007. Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Doc Pain) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?176753 http://osnews.com/thread?176753 ATI's Linux drivers have never been as good as their Windows counterparts. What would you expect that to change now? Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jasutton) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?176756 http://osnews.com/thread?176756 Will they be able to make there GNU/Linux variant just as good ?

I'm sure they could if they really wanted too, but they won't. Mon, 30 Oct 2006 04:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (smitty) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?176771 http://osnews.com/thread?176771 "... but I'm an average Joe. I went through the Linux phase years ago, but then gave up when I needed to use something to get the job done with minimal effort - Windows. I am sill open to the option of Linux, but most likely once KDE 4 is out, and AIGLX is working well. "

What does you not using linux and pondering over upgrading have to do with this article. Nothing. Thank you for wasting my time with your useless opinion on another topic.

Greg Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Gunderwo) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?176859 http://osnews.com/thread?176859 "What does you not using linux and pondering over upgrading have to do with this article. Nothing. Thank you for wasting my time with your useless opinion on another topic.

Greg"

Wow, are you always so venomous? You may have not felt his post was on-topic or appropriate, but I think you'll get over those missing 2 seconds of your life. Seems to me you just wasted more of your own time by even replying to him. Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (thegrifman) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?176875 http://osnews.com/thread?176875 I don't really remember the article mentioning a mac, so it's irrelevant. The graphics engine in Vista is more than just a pretty face, it's also a developer friendly xml-based api Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BluenoseJake) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?176920 http://osnews.com/thread?176920 Wasn't this comment modded down, as it should be? No offense but I'm becoming really disappointed in the moderating on this site. Obvious troll posts and other junk are getting modded back up and I don't understand why. Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Zoidberg) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?177030 http://osnews.com/thread?177030 Maybe you're right, but I don't remember the article mentioning anything about Vista being developer based anything. So in that regard, your comment is just about as irrelevant as my post.

Besides, only about 0.2% of the Windows user population even know what "xml-based api" means, or cares, for that matter. It's still no reason to upgrade when it's released. Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Phloptical) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?177031 http://osnews.com/thread?177031 Whatever, dude. How's that high-horse been working for you?

I was merely commenting on the ridiculously preposterous statement that anything in Vista can be considered "second to none". You don't agree.....hey, that's your problem.

I also find it funny that MS is beginning to think of the hardware vendors in the same way that Apple controls them. I'm not sure that it's warranted, but I find it amusing.

Sorry if I offended, but I ran out of kool-aid last night. I'll be sure to take a big swig the next time I read any statement from MS regarding Vista. Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Phloptical) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?177036 http://osnews.com/thread?177036 You think the company execs really believe the BS they're spewing? They gotta be walking out of these press conferences laughing their asses off.

I'm actually inclined to believe that myself...

Who needs innovation and quality when you have marketing? Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jcinacio) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?177211 http://osnews.com/thread?177211 "Maybe you're right, but I don't remember the article mentioning anything about Vista being developer based anything. So in that regard, your comment is just about as irrelevant as my post. "

Not really, as the more apps developed for Vista, the more use the consumer will get out of it, ergo, more developer support, more happy consumers. The API improvements, the improvements to Direct X (better games, very relevant), the improvements to the UI, they all benefit the consumer, in one way or another so my statement is relevant. Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BluenoseJake) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?177271 http://osnews.com/thread?177271 Well actually Vista almost the only OS I really don't care about.
What I want is full support for operating systems like GNU/Linux, eComstation, Haiku/ZetaOS, FreeBSD/PCBSD,..... Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (flywheel) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?177741 http://osnews.com/thread?177741 Too true! :} Better watch out around here, saying stuff like that will get you called "troll" and your post modded out of existence. Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Phloptical) Comments