http://www.osnews.com/story/16406/Haiku_Gets_New_Tracker_Deskbar_More_BeOS_News Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Wed, 22 May 2013 05:37:21 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread?179363 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179363 What's up with the marijuana icon on the upper left hard drive?
http://joomla.iscomputeron.com/images/stories/916/haiku.png Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179364 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179364 Marijuana is green. Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179366 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179366 Not if you dry it out.
The shape certainly looks like it. They should have used the Haiku kind-of-leaf for an icon. Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179370 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179370 I've seen green, red, even brown, blackish, and orangey.

I agree, the leaf by itself would've been better. Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Minty Fresh) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179376 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179376 too thick leaves to be a marijuana leaf if you ask me. Not very similar, could be any three with 5 split leaves.. Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hagiz) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179378 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179378 I love the clean look of Haiku, more than Zeta's added bevel-shiny-crap. Great progress is being made. Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dacloo) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179380 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179380 Yes I'm sure there's always lots being made, but I don't follow Haiku closely enough that trolling through lots of BeOS sites is worthwhile. Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (twenex) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179388 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179388 I like it. I also think Beos still looks pretty sharp and I'm looking foward playing around with the first available copy.

Good work guys.


Vancouver Website Design http://www.medora.ca Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Yomama) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179395 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179395 I guess now we know where Stippi gets his inspirational jive from

anyway, it's looking very nice and professional. I'm guessing the biggest hurdle between now and an r1 release is getting the new network stack up and running.

edit: stippi provides some interesting information regarding the haiku svg icon implementation on the haiku homepage: http://haiku-os.org/node/280Edited 2006-11-06 23:10 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Valhalla) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179397 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179397 The shape looks more like a maple leaf. Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179414 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179414 I keep watching the cvs for checkins, lovely watching Haiku progress. Love the look. Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wonea) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179430 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179430 I think it looks cool. It's kinda like a suggestion that Haiku is open, in many ways... Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Wintermute) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179433 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179433 I'm pleased I'm not the only one that thought that. I'm not really a fan of that particular icon, but as a set it's looking good.

Would be good to see the generic icon in Haiku colours, green, orange and yellow as opposed to red, blue and yellow. Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Polari) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179436 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179436 Doubt anyone cares...it's not a big deal, but it's not weed (unless the designer has never seen a weed leaf). Marijuana leaves are compound. That looks like it's supposed to be a maple leaf or gum tree. Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (philter) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179440 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179440 ... in fall. Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (stippi) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179445 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179445 Would be good to see the generic icon in Haiku colours, green, orange and yellow as opposed to red, blue and yellow.

Agreed!

In fact, this was reason I really liked Kabuto - because the generic icon was very Haiku-ish in color. Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (umccullough) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179448 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179448 You know, I can look at haiku with that icon set for hours and never get tired, this is really a good sign.

thanks for your hard work stippi! Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (soapdog) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179450 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179450 Maybe it automatically changes as the seasons change :-) Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (parrotjoe) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179452 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179452 Maybe it automatically changes as the seasons change :-)

And what hemisphere you're in... Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (umccullough) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179453 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179453 you haven't seen a marijuana leaf don't you?

http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/images/2003/12/22/leaf.gif Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kwanbis) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179454 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179454 that Zeta/BeOS/Haiku can manage to get 1280x1024 res with millions of colours but Xorgs drivers are still hosed with a paltry showing of 1024x768 no acceleration, and misidentifying the GMA950 . . .

don't mod me down now you linux nuts; just go to your favorite distro's web board and search for "GMA950", it's been a problem chip for linux now for an embarrassing amount of time that everyone knows about and you can't blame intel cause the reference drivers with source is available.

GO HAIKU!!!! Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Fuji257) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179455 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179455 Perhaps it could be based on weather descriptions? Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dylansmrjones) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179463 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179463 If it's at all decent it stays pretty green even when it's dry. If your stuff is turning brown I recommend finding a new supplier. Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jbrader) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179470 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179470 Isn't haiku using generic VESA3 with that chipset? I dont know at all, but if thats the case, then its really nothing special. even windows XP will do that Tue, 07 Nov 2006 04:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (helf) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179496 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179496 Here's what I think of the BeOS and Haiku intefaces:

They are certainly nice and clean, but...

I used to use BeOS back in the day and I thought it was great. It had some amazing capabilities. However, it was almost impossible to convince people of that because of the UI.

I tried to get some of my friends and family to use BeOS, but they wouldn't because to them the UI looked cheap and old (their words, not mine).

While I'm not a big fan of wasting CPU cycles and memory to make my virtual desktops turn into a cube or my windows wiggle like Jell-o, I think Haiku needs to give potential users an interface that showcases its abilities and makes people say, "Wow!" Right now it doesn't.

I think it was OS X's "Wow!" factor that made people take notice of Apple. Prior to that, most PC people wouldn't have given Apple a second thought (I know I never did).

Haiku needs something like that. Clean is nice, but nowadays, flash, gradients, and animations sell. Have the option to turn it off, of course, but it needs to be there to get people excited about Haiku, I think. Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Clinton) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179501 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179501 I'm not checking this project daily but last time I checked they were still trying to have a working kernel... Is it over now ? I mean, is Haiku able to display that Tracker/ UI using 100% "haiku stuff" ? Or are they still running their tests on the original BeOS kernel ? Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BenBen) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179504 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179504 Haiku uses "own" (NewOS based) kernel for a long time now.
If Haiku used BeOS kernel there would be no disk images on http://haiku-os.org/factory because it would be illegal to distribute BeOS kernel in any other form than original BeOS 5 PE installation. Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ahwayakchih) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179505 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179505 Haiku is able to do all that off of it's own back. Take it for a spin using VMWare (or Parallels) and an image from HaikuHost. I think you'll be pleasantly suprised.

http://haikuhost.com/housestrain/

I've been tooling with it for a couple of days. While there's not a whole lot to do as far as apps go (I have had luck loading apps off of a BeOS Max disk), it certainly showcases the sheer perseverance of the dev team. Given a solid 1.0 release down the track, Haiku will certainly be a nice alternative to Windows.

Check it out.Edited 2006-11-07 10:07 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (togs) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179509 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179509 I've just tried latest hd image and thanks to BGA fixes i don't have to remove radeon driver before booting my laptop to Haiku anymore! Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ahwayakchih) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179532 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179532 Anyone else that was thrown into the KDL during first time boot in Wmware?

Maybe this is a known bug, well just try to reboot and it will boot fine during second boot.
/Konrad Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (konrad) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179534 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179534 I love their new icon set. I think its clean and still BeOSish. Great work guys. And to the title here at Osnews, it doesnt not have a new Tracker/Deskbar. If you read Stippi's post its using translators/IconUtils. Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (konrad) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179548 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179548 Did it work on your second or third boot? :-)
Since I allowed the VM to free no longer used areas (because of fork), the system sometimes accesses memory that's already gone - so it's a known bug, if that's what happened to you. If Ithamar doesn't beat me, I'll work on this after networking. Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (axeld) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179598 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179598 It worked on my second boot! Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (konrad) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179614 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179614 I'm just glad to see BeOS being kept alive like this. It was and still is an awesome OS. Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (brewmastre) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179622 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179622 so it's a known bug, if that's what happened to you

I assume that's the occasional "double fault" KDL? I sometimes see that on first boot in VMWare also... but it's not consistent. Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (umccullough) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179644 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179644 Read about this some day ago, impressive. Axel and the good bunch at haiku-os rox! Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (judgen) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179659 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179659 No news about the next BeGeistert? It has been announced! Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (biffuz) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?179672 http://www.osnews.com/thread?179672 I had the same problem in Parallels, and I had to resize the disk image to 120MB. Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tonywob) Comments