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			<title>Finally</title>
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			<description>I have an AMD system that I've been waiting for their 65nm parts before upgrading. These days just about any processor(aside from the super low power parts like VIA's stuff or Geode) is good enough for me, so less heat is really what I'm looking for, just so maybe I can get my system that much quieter if I don't need a crap load of case fans.</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:30:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Anyone have a link to power specs?</title>
			<link>http://osnews.com/thread?189192</link>
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			<description>Anyone have a link or know what the heat dissipation and power consumption characteristics of these new CPUs are? How about cost? I'll be in the market for a new machine in February or so.</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:55:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<author>donotreply@osnews.com (SpasmaticSeacow)</author>
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			<title>just in time...</title>
			<link>http://osnews.com/thread?189226</link>
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			<description>for Intels 45nm!! GO AMD! <img src="/images/emo/wink.gif" alt=";)" /></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 16:27:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<author>donotreply@osnews.com (helf)</author>
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			<title>RE: just in time...</title>
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			<description>AMD is shipping 65 nm chips now.  Intel will not be shipping 45 nm chips until the second half of next year if there are no delays.  Shortly after that (6-8 months) AMD will be shipping 45 nm chips.  That's not too bad at all considering how far AMD has come in the last 5 years.</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:34:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<author>donotreply@osnews.com (abraxas)</author>
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			<title>RE[2]: just in time...</title>
			<link>http://osnews.com/thread?189252</link>
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			<description>I know. I was just joking <img src="/images/emo/smile.gif" alt=";)" /></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:36:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<author>donotreply@osnews.com (helf)</author>
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			<title>Dont care abt power where are the spec.org results</title>
			<link>http://osnews.com/thread?189291</link>
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			<description>Woodcrest, Conroe, and now quad cores from Intel. While the hypertransport is a more efficient arch when scaled, the 1 2 or 4 CPU machines are rules by Intel now.<br />
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AMD had best be getting some winning numbers for the spec.org benchmark and stop messing with wildtangent, buying second place graphics companies and losing the speed war. whining about power being lower is fine for laptops, but I want the speed.</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:47:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<author>donotreply@osnews.com (mickrussom)</author>
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			<title>Intel working on 32nm - almost done.</title>
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			<description>Intel, TSMC report progress towards 32nm<br />
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<a href="http://www.digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20061206PD207.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20061206PD207.html</a> <br />
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Thursday 07 December 2006, 10:29<br />
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ACCORDING TO Digitimes, both Intel and TSMC are making great strides towards a 32nm chip -making process.<br />
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Seaking at the International Technology Roadmap for Semiconductors (ITRS) an Intel director of technology strategy Paolo A. Gargini said Intel's march towards 32nm was &quot;in good shape.&quot;<br />
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He said he reckons Moore's &quot;law&quot; will be good for another fifteen years but may find itself running out of steam as chip makers face the challenge of moving to a super-slim 22nm process and beyond, the wire reports.<br />
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He said Intel will begin volume production at 45nm in the second half of 2007.<br />
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Chip foundry TSMC had earlier outlined a similar time-frame for the shift to 45nm. It too has had some success in producing 32nm prototypes, the gathering heard.<br />
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It is reckoned that 22nm chips won't hit the market before 2015.<br />
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While the semiconductor industry has yet to migrate to 45nm production, major players, such as Intel and Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC), are already gearing up the development of the 32nm node.<br />
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Intel's director of technology strategy Paolo A Gargini yesterday described the US chip giant's development of its 32nm process as being &quot;in good shape.&quot;<br />
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Speaking at the International Technology Roadmap for Semiconductors (ITRS) forum being held in Hsinchu, Taiwan, Gargini said Moore's Law is expected to apply for 10-15 years more.<br />
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But he predicts that Moore's Law will face challenges when it comes to the development of 22nm and more advanced processes.<br />
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Industry sources pointed out that TSMC is also seeing breakthroughs in its development at the 32nm node. The world's number-one pure play foundry has already conducted a few tests on 32nm wafer prototypes, the sources said.<br />
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TSMC CEO Rick Tsai recently revealed that the company has an ad hoc team devoted to the development of 32nm technology.<br />
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According to ITRS's estimation, products at the 22nm node may not be available on the market until 2015 at the earliest. As for 32nm processes, the industry is still probing the pros and cons of adopting extreme ultraviolet (EUV) or double-exposure 193i immersion lithography, according to ITRS.<br />
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While it may still take a while for 32nm or 22nm processes to mature, products at the 45nm node will soon be available.<br />
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Gargini said Intel's 45nm technology is mature, and volume production will start in the second half of 2007.<br />
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TSMC may also begin providing 45nm services in the second half of 2007. TSMC vice president Jack Sun said in June this year that the company would start volume production on 45nm technology in the third quarter of 2007 at the earliest.</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:50:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<author>donotreply@osnews.com (mickrussom)</author>
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			<title>RE: Dont care abt power where are the spec.org results</title>
			<link>http://osnews.com/thread?189298</link>
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			<description>Performance of 65nm K8s will be the same as 90nm K8s at the same frequency. Since the frequency is lower (for now), actual SPEC scores will be lower.</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 19:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<author>donotreply@osnews.com (Wes Felter)</author>
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			<title>22nm processors</title>
			<link>http://osnews.com/thread?189391</link>
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			<description>man the industry has never been this hot,amd and intel are fighting tooth and nail<br />
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for about 3 years the cpu market stagnated around the pentium 4,ht now we are moving quickly</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:31:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<author>donotreply@osnews.com (jango)</author>
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			<title>RE: 22nm processors</title>
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			<description>when you consider that the Core is based on the PIII architecture I wonder where Intel would be if they hadn't chosen the P4 path?Edited 2006-12-07 21:37</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:37:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<author>donotreply@osnews.com (Hoss)</author>
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			<title>RE[2]: 22nm processors</title>
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			<description><i>when you consider that the Core is based on the PIII architecture I wonder where Intel would be if they hadn't chosen the P4 path? </i><br />
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Hum, let me guess, monopoly?</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 23:06:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<author>donotreply@osnews.com (werfu)</author>
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