http://www.osnews.com/story/16696/Solaris_10_11_06_Released Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Fri, 24 May 2013 08:23:25 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread?190926 http://www.osnews.com/thread?190926 Apparently Solaris isn't going to be GPL'ed then. At least not this version.

Ah well, a man can dream. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (twenex) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?190929 http://www.osnews.com/thread?190929 ...that must be the lamest advertising ever. So what if Wall St. loves it? That tells us nothing about its viability as an OS. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Unbeliever) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?190932 http://www.osnews.com/thread?190932 You obviously don't know what WallSt. represents. They rely A LOT on system security. It's a must for them. Just check the Wikipedia article on Wall Street IT Infastructure if you don't believe me.

Cheers Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (@@__@@) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?190934 http://www.osnews.com/thread?190934 Sun has not decided weather to make Trusted Extensions open source or not, but that does not change weather the OS will GPL or not.Edited 2006-12-12 01:07 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Matt Giacomini) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?190935 http://www.osnews.com/thread?190935 I stand corrected. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (twenex) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?190940 http://www.osnews.com/thread?190940 Wow, just went through the PDF, how did logical domains get left out from the little blurb here? Awesome!

Double parity ZFS now, too. Hot spare support! Woohoo. It's XMAS already!Edited 2006-12-12 01:17 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ormandj) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?190941 http://www.osnews.com/thread?190941 Making Solaris GPL wont happen overnight; I wouldn't surprised if they waited until Solaris 11. Look, Solaris has just been opened under CDDL, Sun and its partners would have to see what going GPL would do the code they want to keep secret. Have patience. java was GPL'ed, Solaris will be too. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zizban) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?190942 http://www.osnews.com/thread?190942 Solaris is turning to life again... The new features and improvements of this update are great! Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ebasconp) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?190954 http://www.osnews.com/thread?190954 I've only recently moved into a Solaris role and so I don't know a great deal about it (I've done a few years Linux admin for LAMPs and other services), but just by these slides I can see there are some really neat features available in this release.

Fingers crossed I get to play with them soon enough! Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (flanque) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?190959 http://www.osnews.com/thread?190959 You obviously don't know what WallSt. represents. They rely A LOT on system security. It's a must for them. Just check the Wikipedia article on Wall Street IT Infastructure if you don't believe me.

Would you link this? Thanks. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jwwf) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?190967 http://www.osnews.com/thread?190967 Again, that means nothing. An OS can be the most secure OS out there, but that doesn't mean anything when it comes to its liability as a normal OS, because normal OSs, such as the ones Sun is trying to tout Solaris 10 as, have to offer a lot more than just security. Ease of use is one, a stable package manager is another, a healthy third-party market, etc., etc.

I don't see Solaris 10 offering any of these. It may be secure, and it may impress Wall St., but that is not the end all be all of an OSs duty. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Unbeliever) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?190976 http://www.osnews.com/thread?190976 It would be in Sun's best interest not to change the OpenSolaris license to the GPL.

Such a move would merely enhance Linux and stagnant the OpenSolaris project. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Xaero_Vincent) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?190977 http://www.osnews.com/thread?190977 I have to disagree with Unbeliever. Solaris doesn't have a healthy third-party market? How many commercial Unix apps don't run on Solaris? How many new enterprise apps are targetting AIX, Tru64 or HP-UX first and leaving Solaris support until last?

You're right that Solaris takes awhile to learn, and some parts could be easier to use. But that's why admins are paid to maintain them. And a stable package manager? Enterprise customers are moving to flash archives and hopefully will jump on the ZFS and Zone cloning features in this new release. It's not like banks are fiddling with package dependencies all the time trying incremental upgrades every week and praying it all hangs together. If they want to upgrade a box they can do it in 15 minutes from bare-iron using a flar file, and lay their apps back on from the provisioning server in a few more minutes (if the apps weren't already baked into the flar).

I can't wait to try out Update 3 and the Zone/ZFS clones. If I totally pooch a Zone in development it would be great if I can roll the whole thing back in a few minutes! ZFS + Virtualization = disposable servers Edited 2006-12-12 03:21 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Aronek) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?190998 http://www.osnews.com/thread?190998 Logical domains are more than just U3. It also requires a new firmware revision and some additional management software. Neither of the last two are yet available. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 04:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (spotter) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191002 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191002 maybe not! I know at least one user it would gain and one user that linux would lose. I think the best thing that would happen is there would finally be a (good) choice of free operating systems and of course competition is good. I think solaris may find itself as the center of attention if it was to be licensed under the GPL. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 04:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (deanlinkous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191003 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191003 This is a server OS. You don't care if it has a healthy third-party market except in the few applications that you must use. Especially if it's mostly running in-house applications. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 04:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (PlatformAgnostic) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191029 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191029 Good to see they give you an option to choose wether you want to enable remote services or not.

Is trusted extensions not avalable for x86_64? Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (netpython) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191048 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191048 Wikipedia? Trusted? About trusted computing?

NOOOOOOOOOOO! SAY IT ISN'T SO! Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (WarpKat) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191055 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191055 Exactly. Besides, opening the source doesn't always mean that this is the best option to expand and enhance an OS - most want it open just because they feel everything should be open.

Some things NEED to be left untouched. If we opened up the source code to everything on the face of this mudball, where would we put it? China only has so many compromised PC's to be turned into networked RAID storage volumes... =:( Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (WarpKat) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191063 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191063 Exactly. Besides, opening the source doesn't always mean that this is the best option to expand and enhance an OS - most want it open just because they feel everything should be open.

Some things NEED to be left untouched. If we opened up the source code to everything on the face of this mudball, where would we put it? China only has so many compromised PC's to be turned into networked RAID storage volumes...

First, solaris is already open source. Second, I do feel that everything should be free software (not just open) and I certainly think solaris could gain more "mindshare" from this which would benefit SUN as well as giving me a OS to use.Edited 2006-12-12 06:32 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (deanlinkous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191096 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191096 the CDDL _is_ a free software license, even the fsf says so ("weak copyleft" project-wide, but "strong copyleft" per file. the latter is what the fsf ignores).
just because the GPL is incompatible doesn't make the CDDL non-free. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (oxygene) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191099 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191099 You can always deploy pkgsrc [http://pkgsrc.org] there and benefit from about 5500 ports ready to install and run.

About licence they will propably go for BSD license. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (vermaden) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191103 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191103 Some things NEED to be left untouched. If we opened up the source code to everything on the face of this mudball, where would we put it? China only has so many compromised PC's to be turned into networked RAID storage volumes... =:(

MS just recently gave china insight into the source code. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (trinitrotolueen) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191105 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191105 You can always deploy pkgsrc [http://pkgsrc.org] there and benefit from about 5500 ports ready to install and run.

5500? Ubuntu has 20000+ Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (trinitrotolueen) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191114 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191114 an AHCI driver. There are different sata chipsets, but AHCI provides a uniform interface and gains momentum. I wish SUN included such a driver. I acknowledge previous problems, but now it is necessary and it is generic. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fithisux) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191115 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191115 The official doc can be viewed at:

http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-0547/6mgbdbsmb?a=view Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (flick) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191120 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191120 And we all know that the measure of an OS is total number of packages available, with no focus on how many of those packages actually work and do something useful Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dagw) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191121 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191121 BSD License? The chances of Solaris being released under the BSD license are zero. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (andrewg) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191123 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191123 Trusted Extensions *is* open source - as part of OpenSolaris. Trusted CDE is not but that is for the same reasons as the base CDE. There are even modifications to GNOME to have a multilevel desktop and modifications donated back to Xorg for multilevel Xserver.

Note that Solaris 10 is NOT an OpenSolaris distribution - it predates the opening of the OpenSolaris project. Trusted Extensions is also available in OpenSolaris.

For more info go here: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/security/projects/tx/ Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Darren Moffat) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191124 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191124 Yes it is available for all hardware platforms that the Solaris 10 11/06 release runs on. We generally don't use the x86_64 terminology but instead say AMD64 or just generically x86. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Darren Moffat) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191125 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191125 Except of course for the bits of Solaris that already are under the BSD license ;-) Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Darren Moffat) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191126 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191126 5500? Ubuntu has 20000+

You can't just compare those absolute numbers. Ubuntu and Debian split up a lot of software in multiple packages. E.g. most libraries are split up in normal and -dev packages, and sometimes there are also -doc packages. pkgsrc seldomly splits up software in different packages.

Besides that pkgsrc supports far more platforms and operating systems (e.g. Net/Free/OpenBSD, GNU/Linux, Solaris, Interix, Darwin, IRIX, AIX, and DragonFly). Even if it has a smaller number of packages, it is nice to have one package system across so many platforms. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (danieldk) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191128 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191128 Except if sun chooses GPLv3. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (what) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191144 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191144 5500? Ubuntu has 20000+

You stand for quantity not quality?

can You deploy ubuntu package system on Solaris to be fully functional? Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (vermaden) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191145 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191145 Hmm Last time I checked it was called x64 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (grfgguvf) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191146 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191146 Here's an other Linux user who would switch to Solaris if ZFS install/boot were finally complete. I guess that's another 6 months of wait then...

Though Linux might still integrate some snapshotting FS in that time. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (grfgguvf) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191159 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191159 Linux already supports snapshotting at the LVM layer

No, it's not so powerful as ZFS, but you can do it. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (diegocg) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191166 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191166 I prefer the x86-64 designation myself, but Sun does use the "x64" moniker in its marketing materials and press releases. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (eMagius) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191167 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191167 Except if sun chooses GPLv3.

I don't see how that would affect matters substantially one way or the other, except with regards to drivers.

Please clarify.Edited 2006-12-12 14:55 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (eMagius) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191175 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191175 I wouldn't switch, but I would add it to my list of alternatives, hardware support permitting. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (twenex) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191191 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191191 Here's an other Linux user who would switch to Solaris if ZFS install/boot were finally complete. I guess that's another 6 months of wait then...

Though Linux might still integrate some snapshotting FS in that time.

Why is that? ZFS is pretty slick, granted, but not necessary for a small root partition. You can use fssnap to make UFS snapshots anyways (although only one snap per fs at a time).

http://www.samag.com/documents/s=1824/sam0201j/0201j.htm Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MattPie) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191195 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191195 Actually it might be interesting to see what features might move to the Linux kernel from OpenSolaris if the latter was GPL'd, since a lot of Linux users' 'problem' with *BSD seems to be the fact that so much is being ported to this family of OSs and not 'invented' for use with it as these people seem to claim being the reality on Linux' behalf...

I'd like to see these people's reactions to ZFS, Zones, DTrace etc. being ported to Linux.... Will they moan about it being Sun code ported to the OS or will they cheer out loud for what it brings that is currently available for Linux? Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (s_groening) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191217 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191217 ooo! let me chime in!

"my car has 550HP! haha! also, my dad can beatup your dad!!!1111"

*rolls eyes*Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 95; PalmSource; Blazer 3.0) 16;160x160 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (helf) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191219 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191219 Its interesting to notice how Sun using the GPL for java is good for everyone sun seems to think it will help java break into a new market essentially.

But yet with Open Solaris you see them using a more restrictive licensing to prevent stuff from being easily ported (sun would probably think stolen) to another OS.

I realize Sun is a business and this is probably in their best interest all things considered. Just interesting to note i thought. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (techlush) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191223 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191223 I sincerely hope so. Solaris has some great technology in it that would be of benefit to the Open Source community. On the other hand, the Open Source community has a lot to offer Solaris in the form of utilities and polish (Solaris is pretty ugly by default).

I think the result of a merge of the technologies, utilities, and polish would result in an excellent OS. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Bobe) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191234 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191234 Can anyone recommend the optimal boot loader for Solaris and Vista? is Grub the only game in town? Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (AndrewZ) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191235 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191235 A package system isn't entirely neccessary in an enterprise environment, but if your plan is to use this in a desktop environment, http://www.blastwave.org/ is a pretty nice package system for those open source applications. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (atomicplayboy) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191245 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191245 You're assumption that the reason OpenSolaris wasn't licensed under the GPL is incorrect. It had more to do with timing and it had nothinbg to do with trying to prevent things from being ported. For more details, see this response from Simon Phipps

http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=55008#55008 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (comay) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191247 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191247 What do you mean by 'ugly'? Aesthetics? CDE, which was the default desktop is pretty ugly, but with this release, Java Desktop System is the default, and JDS has a very nice look to it. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (atomicplayboy) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191249 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191249 Sun do not own all of the code that is in Solaris, after all parts of codebase is up to 30years old. The CDDL is a decent effort at an openlicense if you ask me. And it is a perfect fit for current situation of Solaris codebase. As it a per-file license thus allowing CDDL licensed files to be mixed with files under propietry licenses in the finished product (Solaris). Something that GPL wouldn't allow. As all new code going into Solaris appears to be CDDL given time it would be possible to see a dual license approach, but tbh why are people so obsessed that there be a GPL version? It's only a license people not a religion. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Dubhthach) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191295 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191295 Well you can't mix GPLv2 and GPLv3 code, so if sun chooses to licence Opensolaris under the GPLv3 only, linux wouldn't benefit from it.
Plus they can convince linux driver devs to (re)release their code using the GPLv2 or later, which would enable them to use it on opensolaris. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (what) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191335 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191335 CDE is part of what I mean, but some of the standard userland tools Linux users take for granted are not on Solaris, not installed or set up by default, or Solaris versions don't work right.

Perhaps this is fixed it later versions. The last time I used Solaris was 8. Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Bobe) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191358 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191358 i wish they'd hurry up and gpl solaris so that all foss can benefit Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jango) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191448 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191448 "Perhaps this is fixed it later versions. The last time I used Solaris was 8."

That explains alot....Solaris 8 came out in 2000 (last update in 2004 AFAIK). Solaris 10 is much improved over 8 IMO. You should give it a try. BTW, some of the usrland tools you're looking for will probably be found in /usr/sfw (at least on Solaris 10). Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ctl_alt_del) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191526 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191526 They are a company. They do things to benefit themselves. If it benefits others in the process, wonderful - but that is not the primary intent of a company. They exist to make their stakeholders happy.

I don't think they can "hurry" GPLization anymore than they already are, it's a huge undertaking. Just be happy they are doing it, at all. Most companies wouldn't. Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ormandj) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191586 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191586 i wish they'd hurry up and gpl solaris so that all foss can benefit

Why does it have to be gpl specifically for foss to benefit? Wed, 13 Dec 2006 05:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (elsewhere) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191595 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191595 I think what he means is that it would benefit Linux. Actually, making it GPL would cause problems for a lot of other open source software. GPL code can't be directly ported to BSD licensed code. I like the idea of dtrace and ZFS in FreeBSD, so I'm really in no hurry to see Solaris switch to the GPL license. Wed, 13 Dec 2006 06:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (atomicplayboy) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191605 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191605 Can anyone find it again / give me correct URL? Wed, 13 Dec 2006 06:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (aliquis) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191607 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191607 http://sg.sun.com/sunnews/events/presentation/files/20061121_jesupd...

? Wed, 13 Dec 2006 06:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (aliquis) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191609 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191609 Yeah just to bad not all packages from pkgsrc EXIST for Solaris, and most/many are probably very outdated, there are no kde port and so on. Also to bad Sun can't just get an official package manager and servers which everyone could use instead of Blastwave, Sunfreeware and pkgsrc where the first one doesn't have (atleast had) the source code available for all the packages in some easy to use way, the second one isn't easy to use and the later one lacks packages which the other two has.

Over all it's way to few packages, to little people involved, a crappy experience to use, outdated versions and just pure shit.

This, the not working ekiga, no recent KDE port and the fact that the UI just feels slow when my system uses the HDD a little and that Sun Audio sucks and no applications are built with OSS support is major show stoppers for me. To bad since much of the OS seems and is awesome, good for servers but make a very crappy desktop. Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (aliquis) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191621 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191621 Ok LVM snapshotting has nothing to do with this

I should have used some clearer term but I have no idea what would it be. Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (grfgguvf) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191625 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191625 thanks for that link ! Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (grfgguvf) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191705 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191705 Hardware support has always been the reason I haven't done anything with Solaris. I've tried many times, but it is either my network card not supported or video card.

Not that it was totally Sun's fault, I was just too cheap to go out and find supported hardware, just to run Solaris. :-) Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DoctorPepper) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191706 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191706 ;-) Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (twenex) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191767 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191767 But linux is the only Foss alternativ there is.. did'nt know you that? Or atleast thats what it seems like when ever some company or the like talks about moving a way from windows they just have to move to linux.

Another thing is why even bother to change the licens to gpl when gpl v3 is said to be compatible with the cddl. So it will all be ported or copied to linux anyways. Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hamster) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191822 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191822 Thanks. If I ever have the opportunity to work on a Solaris box again, I look forward to giving 10 + a try (I never liked Solaris much on non-Sun hardware). Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Bobe) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191875 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191875 Uhm, isn't it GPL which is the restrictive license? Thu, 14 Dec 2006 02:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (aliquis) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191877 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191877 JDS looks like shit for beeing Gnome, thought I know some Sun users like the looks of it. Thu, 14 Dec 2006 02:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (aliquis) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?191879 http://www.osnews.com/thread?191879 I don't know about your NIC, but the few I have on my motherboards have worked, as long as Xorg or the nvidia driver supports the gfx card it should work I suppose. So I think it was mostly a user error. Thu, 14 Dec 2006 02:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (aliquis) Comments