http://www.osnews.com/story/16770/Man_Boots_Mac_OS_X_on_Asus_UMPC_Shoots_Video Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:12:28 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?194411 http://osnews.com/thread?194411 Very interesting experiment, kudos. Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sphinx) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194417 http://osnews.com/thread?194417 I wonder if Linux could work on that device too. Including the stylus input and WiFI and power management stuff. Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sb56637) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194422 http://osnews.com/thread?194422 Exactly WHAT receives signal from Apple Remote? Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (stooovie) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194425 http://osnews.com/thread?194425 OMG that's slow! There are obviously lots of compatibility issues going on, since the processor alone can be the cause (Tiger runs great on my old 466MHz PowerMac G4). Graphic drivers?

Nice hack though - Makes me wonder if Apple is ever going to release a subnotebook to take place of the old 12" iBook/PowerBook.

edit: so, it's not the RAM, at the end of the video it shows 768MB... that leaves the graphic drivers as the most likely suspectEdited 2006-12-19 23:38 Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (PowerMacX) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194426 http://osnews.com/thread?194426 1. Mac OS X
2. Mac OS X running a a "device"

Leave Mac OS X for the playground ... Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (deb2006) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194427 http://osnews.com/thread?194427 The first video is a modded Mac Mini so probably an original Apple remote. You can run Front Row without it though, there's a hacked driver that makes mouse function as a remote. Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (miscz) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194429 http://osnews.com/thread?194429 It's both graphics and CPU. OSX can run without Quartz Extreme but everything is drawn in software in such case. Celeron M 900 Mhz is just too slow. I've run OSX without video acceleration on a notebook with Celeron M 1.6 Ghz and unless you want to watch video or do some 3D stuff it's good enough. Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (miscz) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194442 http://osnews.com/thread?194442 Are you just jealous that Mac OS X looks, feels, and acts better than Linux as a desktop OS? Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tom K) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194445 http://osnews.com/thread?194445 Yes, I am dying - gee, I am so jealous!!! Please give me a Mac and a day with Steve and I am the happiest guy on the planet. It's so wonderful to have something that great around. The OS itself was invented by pure genius - and now with the phantastic zfs and being able to boot off devices - it's like magic. Wow!!!! Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (deb2006) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194451 http://osnews.com/thread?194451 So what, you prefer Windows? Or the interface innovations of Linux? Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (optimusg4) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194458 http://osnews.com/thread?194458 Almost certainly, given a sufficiently motivated user. Wed, 20 Dec 2006 01:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (orestes) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194475 http://osnews.com/thread?194475 uh. um.. I'm not sure HOW to take this. Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (helf) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194478 http://osnews.com/thread?194478 Its gotta be the interface of linux, well Gnome actually, i use OSX daily now but i still wish OSX was as usable as Gnome... Dont get me wrong Aqua is a nice GUI but Gnome just cant be beat ... Windows interface just dont even come into it, and i aint tried Vista yet but so far from what i have read it offers nothing that i would consider rushing out to try and that hasnt been done before it seems Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Cass) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194489 http://osnews.com/thread?194489 This is a great demonstration if for no other reason than it reinforces how adaptable OS X may be made for multiple devices.

But I am still in woe mode upon hearing that MS is pulling VBA out of the next version of office for OS X. I believe this was a deliberate act to thwart defections from Vista to OS X. For most of what I do, VBA is a must. Without it (and AutoCAD for OS X), it just doesn't do me any good. drat Wed, 20 Dec 2006 03:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (RGCook) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194502 http://osnews.com/thread?194502 3. trolling Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194511 http://osnews.com/thread?194511 Dont get me wrong Aqua is a nice GUI but Gnome just cant be beat ...

I agree, it's very difficult to make an uglier GUI. Gnome just can't be beat ... Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Duffman) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194523 http://osnews.com/thread?194523 Notice how he didn't mention "good looks" anywhere you superficial Mac fanboy. (you seem to get eyecandy and usability confused).

Love the Mac, hate the fanboys. Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fignew) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194528 http://osnews.com/thread?194528 this isn't about macosx vs linux UI debate. One thing is for sure, while I can get linux to run *well* on my pc, I can't say the same for macosx. Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (arielb) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194534 http://osnews.com/thread?194534 That would also mean Exposé, which is quite a big part of using the Mac will be unusable. As would Dashboard, I suspect. Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (evangs) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194535 http://osnews.com/thread?194535 I actually agree with you. While I don't mind how the OS X GUI looks, I think GNOME's default look is ... attractive. It's minimal, and doesn't distract you.

Maybe I need to get some professional help... Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (evangs) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194536 http://osnews.com/thread?194536 "this isn't about macosx vs linux UI debate. One thing is for sure, while I can get linux to run *well* on my pc, I can't say the same for macosx."

And I couldn't get Windows XP to run on my PPC Mac no matter how badly I'd for some reason wanted to....

Neither way around I'd blame any of the two parties, Apple and Microsoft, since it's their right to make these decisions and if you really want it that bad, buy the appropriate hardware (these days this would be an Intel Mac) ...

So many people seem to blame other people's decisions for their own lack of opportunities, even though in this case it boils down to their own choice and their own decisions ... Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (s_groening) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194547 http://osnews.com/thread?194547 I am free to hate GNOME if it doesn't fit to me.

Love Free Software, hate Linux zealots. Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Duffman) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194590 http://osnews.com/thread?194590 Why not just run Windows Office from Parallels? Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (yakirz) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194601 http://osnews.com/thread?194601 "It's both graphics and CPU. OSX can run without Quartz Extreme but everything is drawn in software in such case."

You are right, but this is because of a *major* graphic driver issue, because even on machines that don't support Quartz Extreme, the OS X GUI is still pretty responsive: on my old 466MHz Power Mac G4, for instance. That machine has only an ATI Rage 128 graphics card, with just 16MB of VRAM, and it doesn't even support rectangle textures. Yet, OS X squeezes as much as it can from it, and the machine is an order of magnitude faster than the UMPC shown in the video, despite its 466MHz processor.

Actually, I used Tiger (thanks to XPostFacto) on an old 250MHz PowerBook G3 (upgraded to a 500MHz G3) with a Rage Pro card (4MB of VRAM) and it was slow, yet not *that* slow. And I don't think OS X was able to offload much (if any) graphic processing work to that unsupported card... Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (PowerMacX) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194628 http://osnews.com/thread?194628 Must be a support group somewhere, I found the default gnome desktop a bit spartan but pleasant to the eye and very usable. Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sphinx) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194644 http://osnews.com/thread?194644 yeah. something odd is going on with that. I'm running OSX 10.4.7 on .y whitebox tower with an nvidia 6200... its using VESA 3.0 and its silky smooth.Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 95; PalmSource; Blazer 3.0) 16;160x160 Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (helf) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194650 http://osnews.com/thread?194650 Bread crumbs cannot be beat. Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tuishimi) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194658 http://osnews.com/thread?194658 But there is WindowMaker/GNUstep, however it is not mature enough Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fithisux) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194673 http://osnews.com/thread?194673 If MacOS X can run on an unsupported mobile PC, Linux certainly could as well; linux is meant to run on a far broader number of systems. Mac OS X on any system beyond Macintosh is newsworthy because drivers for white box systems are so scarce. Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Xaero_Vincent) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194679 http://osnews.com/thread?194679 yes of course...that was kinda my point. linux and bsd can run on anything because with open source, someone will figure a way

Now here's the challenge: I have this xbox 360... Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (arielb) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194734 http://osnews.com/thread?194734 I doubt Apple's going to give us a tablet Mac next month, but we can hope. I'd love a tablet the size of this Asus, instead of the regular tablet size. Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (yakirz) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194788 http://osnews.com/thread?194788 Yeah but its not all about looks though is it ... usability is a big factor Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Cass) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?194877 http://osnews.com/thread?194877 That means you'll need to buy a copy of Windows, Parallels, and MS Office. Not exactly cheap, but if you need it desperately, guess there is no other way. Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (evangs) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?195311 http://osnews.com/thread?195311 Model 01+ would make a find candidate for OSX. Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Verbatim) Comments