http://www.osnews.com/story/16855/XGI_Technology_Drivers_Revisited Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2012, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:22:32 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread?198002 http://www.osnews.com/thread?198002 XGI have submitted open source 3D drivers to X.org, as can be in the Freedesktop bugzilla. The fact that they're not shipped in a release yet is likely to be more related to the general issues associated with integrating large code drops from hardware vendors - ensuring that everything is properly licensed, integrates with the existing code well and so on. It certainly looks like XGI is showing willing. Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mjg59) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?198006 http://www.osnews.com/thread?198006 I wonder if Michael over at phoronix knows about this?

Assuming you're correct. Do you have more info? Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (halfmanhalfamazing) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?198013 http://www.osnews.com/thread?198013 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5921 Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rayiner) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?198022 http://www.osnews.com/thread?198022 That's all non 3d stuff.

Maybe I'm misinterpretting this one....

"Non-3D programming guide"

Open the guides. They're from february. This is nothing new. Back in february is around the time when XGI released the 2D only source code.

As was stated in the article.

I want open sourced drivers just as much as anybody. But I'd like to see the proof first.

And your link goes to show that phoronix was right. Not the original poster's belief.Edited 2007-01-02 19:32 Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (halfmanhalfamazing) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?198026 http://www.osnews.com/thread?198026 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9129 - released in November. Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mjg59) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?198029 http://www.osnews.com/thread?198029 Will you read the titles of what it is you're posting!?

"Source code of 2D driver with patching license header"

There is no open source 3d volari/XGI driver.

The november release date of your link is rather irrelevant. It's based off of the original 2d-only release.

Now, I didn't download the code. But I highly doubt that the xorg guys mislabeled this. If it were containing 3d code, it would be titled 3d, or 3d/2d. Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (halfmanhalfamazing) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?198031 http://www.osnews.com/thread?198031 and did you read the comments? i was thinking this one specifically:

"(1). Update Source code of 2D driver with patching license header
(2). First time to release source code of 3D driver"

and this:
"Created an attachment (id=7870) [edit]
Source code of 3D driver" Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Redeeman) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?198032 http://www.osnews.com/thread?198032 ------ Opened by Jong Lin on 2006-11-22 19:36 [reply] -------

(1). Update Source code of 2D driver with patching license header
(2). First time to release source code of 3D driver

The attachment that's been marked "obsolete" contains the full source code to DRI and DRM modules. At a guess, it's been flagged because the XGI guy doesn't really know how to drive Bugzilla - he's hardly alone in that respect.

There is no open source 3d volari/XGI driver.

Well, other than this here open source 3D volari/XGI driver. Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mjg59) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?198054 http://www.osnews.com/thread?198054 We (SkyOS) tried working with XGI about two years ago. They wanted us to sign a bunch of NDA's and such to get access to their hardware specs, which we didn't feel like doing. They are a very small hardware company, we are a very small OS group, and we were hoping we could find some common ground quickly to help each other out, but that didn't materialize so, oh well.

Personally, I think they should just open everything up and go for broke. Their technology is years behind NVIDIA/AMD, and even Intel. The only risk they have is of more platforms supporting their hardware. I know for a fact that a lot of SkyOS users would have picked up a $40 video card from them if it meant they could get 3D hardware acceleration. Oh well. It is what it is. Tue, 02 Jan 2007 21:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kelly Rush) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?198088 http://www.osnews.com/thread?198088 That's lame...a struggling video card vendor that decides it doesn't even care to carve out a niche market it could possibly guarantee itself. Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bnolsen) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?198157 http://www.osnews.com/thread?198157 Yeah, well, like a lot of things with SkyOS, we do our best to work something out, and if it doesn't happen, we just move along.

I was personally hoping they would open all of the necessary specs to us. This would have allowed Robert to create the underlying sub-system for hardware 3D support (both for composition on the desktop, as well as gaming for Quake 3 and such), and since NVIDIA and ATI had/have no interest in working with us at present, the XGI cards would have been the de-facto 3D hardware standard for SkyOS. However, their hardware is simply not that good, nor are the drivers for the hardware, and while we were willing to overlook this just to get some support in the system, it just wasn't worth it if we had to jump through a bunch of legal hoops to get there. For NVIDIA or ATI support, definitely, but not for XGI. Wed, 03 Jan 2007 06:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kelly Rush) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?198185 http://www.osnews.com/thread?198185 help us all. I prefer Open Source 3D grxf from XGI instead of closed source 3D from NVIDIA/ATI. Go XGI, I bought last year a Volari V3 and was marvellous. Wed, 03 Jan 2007 08:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fithisux) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?198198 http://www.osnews.com/thread?198198 It's a shame. I don't care about 3D on the desktop, but i would buy a graphics card with full open source drivers just because. Yes, OGP*, i'm looking at you.

* http://wiki.duskglow.com/tiki-index.php?page=Open-Graphics Wed, 03 Jan 2007 10:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (B. Janssen) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?198260 http://www.osnews.com/thread?198260 Forgive my naivety, but does this mean anything for sis owners? Since sis and xgi cards are supported by the same 2d driver, might this mean that 3d support is going to become available for the sis340 series if xgi ever decides to opensource the driver?Edited 2007-01-03 18:26 Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (aperh) Comments