http://www.osnews.com/story/17077/The_Best_VoIP_SIP_Multi-Function_Devices_Today Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:22:00 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?205892 http://osnews.com/thread?205892 There is something called AGEPhone, which supports various SIP servers. It's for Windows Mobile 5 QVGA and VGA resolutions.

http://www.ageet.com/us/agephone/index.htm

Still I can't connect (too much setup hassle) with sipphone.com, stanaphone.com or others... Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (malkia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?205896 http://osnews.com/thread?205896 Well, it costs $50 bucks... That's a bit excessive IMHO for a SIP client. Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?205911 http://osnews.com/thread?205911 i didn't know the firmware could be updated on the e61. I was running the old version and didn't know it. I'm upgrading to version 3. Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (broken_symlink) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?205912 http://osnews.com/thread?205912 Good to hear! Let me know if it says that "no new version is available" for your language. You see, Nokia only updates the firmware for languages that a model sells well. So, if you need to upgrade and no upgrade version is available for your language, you have to use a special tool to change the Product ID of the phone, in order to force the upgrade (you will lose your language's specific support, but at least you will get the upgrade). Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?205923 http://osnews.com/thread?205923 Wow, you will love version 3. I bought the E61 on suggestion from Eugenia, and I've been VERY happy with it. I have no problems with it as a phone overall, except one minor niggle with auto-retrieve and IMAP4 accounts. Other than this, the phone is truly super! Eugenia and I even had a VOIP call between my E61 and her E61 - I live in Hawaii - and even so the voice quality was FAR better than even a normal cellular call. Very impressive! Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ormandj) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?205932 http://osnews.com/thread?205932 The Palm Treos can work with Articulation but you will have to be close to an EDGE tower to make sure that you won't have lag while chatting

I don't know much about wireless data service, but isn't it extremely expensive? If so, wouldn't it be cheaper to just dial over the cell network instead? Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (setuid_w00t) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?205934 http://osnews.com/thread?205934 Heh, we are talking about 'unlimited data' cellular accounts of course. They cost $5 with T-Mobile and about $20 with Cingular per month. Otherwise, it's too expensive of course. Edited 2007-01-26 01:08 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 01:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?205939 http://osnews.com/thread?205939 i'm using english. the upgrade went fine. i bought a card for asterisk a while ago so i could setup a pbx for my parents at work, but i never got a phone to test it out with, now i can. i just need to finish setting up asterisk. anyway thanks. btw i gave the video coversion stuff a try, but i had an issue with one of the settings in the picture. on my mpeg-4 export settings screen the video options button was grayed out. However, the quality is so much better than the first video i put on my phone. thanks for all the help. Fri, 26 Jan 2007 01:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (broken_symlink) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?205941 http://osnews.com/thread?205941 If you like to test out your E61 with me via Gizmo, let me know (my gizmo number is in my blog's contact page). The Gizmo settings for the E61 are here: http://support.gizmoproject.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=q... (just use UDP instead of "auto" for the transports). You can have more than 1 SIP accounts configured and/or registered at the same time.

Regarding the mp4 video export, what did you use: QuickTime or MediaCoder? I made a major change/fix in my Mediacoder tutorial last night, so please re-follow it again: http://www.osnews.com/story.php/16983/Tutorial-Get-Your-Movies-on-Y... Fri, 26 Jan 2007 01:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?205951 http://osnews.com/thread?205951 i used quicktime pro. i only have 1 system running windows and i don't use it all. the nokia update was the first time in like a month that i have touched it. anyway i think they look fine even though i haven't enabled the resync markers option. i'll give gizmo a try soon. i think i should probably study for my finals tomorrow ;-p
thanks! Fri, 26 Jan 2007 01:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (broken_symlink) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?205973 http://osnews.com/thread?205973 FreeWorldDialup works *like a charm* on my E70, 2.0something firmware. It was able to pierce every NAT I've thrown it into, including a pretty weird dual-NAT setup (one XP ICS setup which the soft access point creates to enable using the WiFi adapter as an AP, IP range as default, 192.168.0.x; and this behind a standard home router, set to deliver IP addresses in the 10.0.0.x range). *Zero* configuration required on the router. I'm either damn lucky or FWD is just that good. I'm eagerly awaiting for them to offer some PSTN gateway/callout service.

SIPphone (Gizmo) also works decently well, but only when the router is correctly configured to forward ports, and the "onion-NAT" of course did not work.

Props to Jeff Pulver, his FWD service is outstanding, and thanks to SIPbroker gateways, I can call any SIP numbers I fancy. And a note to SIPphone: guys, get a grip FWD could manage that NAT thing, and they have NO revenue sources (yet).

P.s.: the pbxes.org trick works only partially with the E70. Perhaps it's the lack of STUN support or something; all I can say is FWD just completely nailed it. Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (meianoite) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?205974 http://osnews.com/thread?205974 Either FWD has "reverse NAT" support, or, you are using the two different proxies for it. One is the normal SIP proxy, and the other one is the outbound proxy which is used only when problems occur. I had to use that second proxy from FWD to get Ekiga to register on my E61 for example (even with the 3.03 firmware version).

So, yes, it depends a lot how each SIP service is configured. FWD is one of the very solid ones. But I promise you, your E70 will have trouble working with most others directly (as you have seen with Gizmo already). Gizmo will work out of the box too after and if Nokia offers an upgrade. Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?206018 http://osnews.com/thread?206018 Hi Eugenia,
I am using a TMobile branded Phone which is giving me a no go for the update. Can you point me to this application which will force it to be updated.
I am currently stuck on v 1.2 on my E61 and it sucks. Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (olivier) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?206136 http://osnews.com/thread?206136 http://www.averageadmins.com/blog/2006/11/12/force-flashing-the-nok...

Read comments section too. Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ormandj) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?206168 http://osnews.com/thread?206168 To upgrade: Do what it says here
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=nokia&mes...
[update: crap, they deleted that forum post ]
but only with two changes:
Use one of the product codes below instead of the two suggested in the article. The second change to the tutorial is that you should not install the NSU as linked from the tutorial, because it's linking
to an older version and instead install this version:
http://europe.nokia.com/softwareupdate

Please note that I don't take any responsibility if you fry your your phone, but generally, this is what would need to do...

E61 RM-89 Standard Edition Product IDs
0529664 Euro-E1 Silver (English, Espanol)
0523307 Euro-A Silver (English, Nederlands)
0529654 Euro-B1 Silver (English, Svenska, Suomi)
0529660 Euro-B2 Silver (English, Dansk, Norsk)
0529661 Euro-C Silver (English, Deutsch, Turkçe, Eesti)
0529663 Euro-D Silver (English, Français, Nederlands)
0530146 Euro-E2 Silver (English, Portugues)
0530080 Euro-F Silver (English, Turkçe, Deutsch)
0530081 Euro-G1 Silver (English, Deutsch, Cestina)
0532623 Euro-G2 Silver (English, Deutsch, Slovencina)
0530082 Euro-H Silver (English, Greek)
0530083 Euro-I Silver (English, Magyar, Deutsch)
0530084 Euro-J Silver (English, Polski, Deutsch)
0530091 Euro-L Silver (English, Hrvatski, Deutsch, Slovenscina, Srpski)
0530093 Euro-M Silver (English, Italian)Edited 2007-01-26 20:17 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?206371 http://osnews.com/thread?206371 I'm a real newcomer to this stuff, but in a couple of days a higher-end Nokia (N73) is due to arrive that can handle at least some of these things, I hope.

I wonder if some of the knowledgeable mobile users on here could suggest a few things. Like, the top 5 or 10 third-party Symbian apps you can't live without (er, if there are any), and the best websites to bone up on all this and for downloading malware-free quality stuff. I haven't a clue myself.

OTOH, perhaps this is OT and it would be better as a separate article about making full use of your mobile phone (rather like an article on getting started in Linux, for example). Sat, 27 Jan 2007 12:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (moleskine) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?206447 http://osnews.com/thread?206447 Good idea, I will make an article about it this coming week. Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?206480 http://osnews.com/thread?206480 Nokia E61 is an excellent phone for Voip. I use sipgate(sipgate.com) and works perfectly. Sound quality is excellent. You dont need a software or anything, you just do few settings, than you are ready to go. Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bluecode77) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208252 http://osnews.com/thread?208252 hello all
does sip registration have to be throught the wifi connection? can it be done with 3g? also is it possible to be registered with more than one sip proxy at the same time? Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tezza) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208495 http://osnews.com/thread?208495 You can use 3G, but it's not recommended, because of the lag. Yes, you can use as many registered SIP accounts as you want, at the same time. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208578 http://osnews.com/thread?208578 Thanks Eugenia
I would welcome any comments about this - has anyone tried voip over 3G? how laggy is it? why does gsm work if there is lag between you and the transmitter? Sat, 03 Feb 2007 01:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tezza) Comments