http://www.osnews.com/story/17139/Allchin_What_Comes_Next Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:11:17 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?208179 http://osnews.com/thread?208179 There are two kinds of guys. The kind that like Giada de Laurentiis and the kind that prefer Rachel Ray. Allchin and I have something in common:

11:00 AM: Watched Rachel Ray – god is she engaging. Maybe she should do the launch of the next version of Windows.

I also like Alton Brown, but in a completely different kind of way. I don't particularly care for Emeril Lagasse. That puts me in the Ray / Brown quadrant in the personality profile. We get beat up by the Laurentiis / Lagasse guys, but they end up selling used cars and teaching middle school gym anyway. ;-) Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (butters) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208180 http://osnews.com/thread?208180 What if you like Emeril and Alton, but find Rachel Ray completely annoying? Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Phloptical) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208182 http://osnews.com/thread?208182 What if you have no idea who any of these people are, but a quick google image search for "Rachel Ray" comes up with certain FHM images?

Not bad, not bad at all . Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208188 http://osnews.com/thread?208188 Don't care for Rachel - I can eat a banana sideway, just list Julia Roberts - Ray. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gilA) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208195 http://osnews.com/thread?208195 What if you only like Rachel Ray because ... she's not ugly, at all? Sorry, but that's a big factor in a TV host, although it's sort of new to cooking shows. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ma_d) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208202 http://osnews.com/thread?208202 vista would make mac addicts say "wow", followed by "what a piece of crap"!!! .

All kidding aside, now that he's left MS , perhaps he'd care to share a little bit with the open source side of the world before he dies. You know, to balance out his carma for the DRM orientated work for MS he's done....
I hear Ubuntu is hiring.. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fasted) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208204 http://osnews.com/thread?208204 More telling than his infatuation with Rachel Ray is....

"4:30 PM: After a phone call with my Mom, I decided I needed to configure her account as a standard user for Windows Vista. This gives new meaning to "parental controls", but a son has to do what a son has to do."

I guess Mom just clicks through the UAC pop-ups too! Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ctl_alt_del) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208207 http://osnews.com/thread?208207 Ubuntu yeah right...come back when the stupid thing installs correctly on my thinkpad...

btw it is Karma with a K and not Carma:) Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (CrazyDude0) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208216 http://osnews.com/thread?208216 I worked at Microsoft in the 90s. When I retired, I started using Linux. Allchin will do the same. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Clinton) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208220 http://osnews.com/thread?208220 Woohoo! Go Team Rachel/Alton! Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rayiner) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208222 http://osnews.com/thread?208222 I bet you also don't like puppies and children... Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rayiner) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208223 http://osnews.com/thread?208223 Personally I like Iron Chef! Beats the hell out of watching American `Idiot`. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (aGNUstic) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208237 http://osnews.com/thread?208237 Who are these people? Fri, 02 Feb 2007 04:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208238 http://osnews.com/thread?208238 TV Chefs.

Alton Brown rocks, the others not so much... Fri, 02 Feb 2007 04:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (umccullough) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208245 http://osnews.com/thread?208245 They're all chefs on the Food Network (in the USA, maybe elsewhere). Alton Brown is kinda like a "Bill Nye" type guy, he'll go into physical explanations about how cooking operates (eg: the physics of smoking salmon). Rachael Ray does a show about how to cook meals in 30 minutes, and also one about good places to eat in certain tourist spots. She's known for being cute and happy (to some, too cute and happy). Emeril Lagasse is a fairly famous chef, in addition to his show he has restaurants, cookware, etc. He makes fancy food. Giada Delaurentis does a show about Italian food.

PS) Yes, I watch Food Network a lot. In the States, it's fast becoming the only "family-friendly" TV that isn't either overtly religious or horribly boring.Edited 2007-02-02 05:27 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rayiner) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208246 http://osnews.com/thread?208246 vista would make mac addicts say "wow", followed by "what a piece of crap"!!! .

Well yes, Pavlovian responses aren't that hard to predict. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208247 http://osnews.com/thread?208247 11:00 AM: Watched Rachel Ray – god is she engaging. Maybe she should do the launch of the next version of Windows.

Ned Beatty would be a better choice, he could reprise the "Mr. Jensen" role from Network. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208248 http://osnews.com/thread?208248 "he could reprise the "Mr. Jensen" role from Network."

I think it would be more like the Bobby Trippe role from Deliverance.... Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208249 http://osnews.com/thread?208249 I thought your pension. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (netpython) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208255 http://osnews.com/thread?208255 No, no, it would have to be the Mr. Jensen scene. If nothing else, it would illustrate to Steve Ballmer how to perform insane ranting with actual charisma. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208261 http://osnews.com/thread?208261 Dude, Giada is so much hotter than Rachel. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 07:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jayson.knight) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208264 http://osnews.com/thread?208264 /*Went to check out the Apple store at University Village to see what all of the hype was about. Ended up demoing Windows Vista for all of the employees (and a few customers). All they could say was "Wow." Ended up leading a group of them over to BestBuy to help them pick out new PCs with Windows Vista pre-loaded. Need to go to the Bellevue store tomorrow.*/


that sounded like a Microsoft anti-competitve practice.
rounding up apple customers and lead
them to a store that sales PCs with vista. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 07:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (happycamper) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208266 http://osnews.com/thread?208266 is this thread about some rich talk show host, or about Allchin's new job within Microsoft, goinig to apple stores and rounding up their customers and leading
them to stores that sales PCs with vista? Fri, 02 Feb 2007 07:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (happycamper) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208268 http://osnews.com/thread?208268 the cooking network has stolen our forum
i commend the microsoft team on making 20 years of mixed quality coding work relatively well. I'm sure jim did his fair share in that effort. now if they could just quit trying to muscle out all competition.Edited 2007-02-02 07:53 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 07:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (matthekc) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208276 http://osnews.com/thread?208276 I have Ubuntu running on two different T-Series Thinkpads and one G-Series Thinkpad. Everything just worked for me. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 08:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Clinton) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208277 http://osnews.com/thread?208277 likewise:Linux ubuntu 2.6.19.2-custom-grsec #1 Thu Feb 1 18:10:37 CET 2007 i686 GNU/Linux Fri, 02 Feb 2007 08:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (netpython) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208298 http://osnews.com/thread?208298 "What's truly amazing to me is that we are just at the beginning for what technology will be able to do. The next 50 years are going to be much more exciting than the last 50 (and that's saying a lot!)"

Whenever I hear a Microsoft person talk they're always talking about tomorrow, the next product, the next version, without a thought in the world for what's gone before and where everyone will simply buy into what they're saying because it's so incredibly cool. How could you not? However, they're not talking about it in the way that you might think - it's code for how many more billions Microsoft will be making in the future and how much more growth they can squeeze out.

Unfortunately for Allchin, Microsoft is unlikely to be there in fifty years because their business model will be completely destabilised with the way technology and software will go. Microsoft still doesn't understand the meaning of business applications, and the fact that a lot of Win32, web and other business applications will be used years and decades into the future. Just look at the usage of COBOL. No one wants to rewrite for .Net version 20.0. Allchin might play with the latest version of SQL Server and write a WPF front-end for Vista, but no one in the real world is, or will.

Imagine a world where you just walk up to a computer and tell it what you want to do, where that computer is incredibly cheap and where there is no room for an expensive OS that doesn't do anything, where that computer and OS is not ripped out and replaced with snazzy new stuff every few years, but gradually upgraded and replaced over a period of many decades. Yes, decades.

It's a world where computers and software are part of the infrastructure of every day life and where the way that they are updated is completely different to the terribly immature way that things are done today. It's coming, whatever anyone might say.

Goodbye Microsoft (and several others). Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (segedunum) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208300 http://osnews.com/thread?208300 Hmm, is all this before or after sea-levels rise, major parts of Southern Europe become uninhabitable through global warming, we run out of oil, and metals and minerals are near depletion (before we start asteroid mining)?

In 2057 you may be lucky to own a pitchfork and anything to fork with it, let alone have "a world where computers and software are part of the infrastructure of every day life and where the way that they are updated is completely different to the terribly immature way that things are done today. It's coming, whatever anyone might say." Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (orfanum) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208324 http://osnews.com/thread?208324 "/*Went to check out the Apple store at University Village to see what all of the hype was about. Ended up demoing Windows Vista for all of the employees (and a few customers). All they could say was "Wow." Ended up leading a group of them over to BestBuy to help them pick out new PCs with Windows Vista pre-loaded. Need to go to the Bellevue store tomorrow.*/ "

Easy like stealing candy from a baby huh? Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Darkelve) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208325 http://osnews.com/thread?208325 You've given the true response to any article about where technology will be in 50 years (except for the part about asteroid mining: it's all going to hell before that ever becomes feasible). Why bother though? The crash is coming and nothing we can do will change it; bringing it up is just a downer. I prefer to ignore it and enjoy today for today.

Think of 50-years-in-the-future talk as science fiction, and enjoy it for the what-if factor. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MamiyaOtaru) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208340 http://osnews.com/thread?208340 and then google comes along and offers him big money to be another celebrity hire for posterity's sake. heheheh. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (alucinor) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208372 http://osnews.com/thread?208372 Actually, I want to be there (in my nineties) when it all goes Sci-Fi in a big, red-cloud, Goetterdaemmerung-like way..... ;-) Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (orfanum) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208390 http://osnews.com/thread?208390 Hmm, is all this before or after sea-levels rise, major parts of Southern Europe become uninhabitable through global warming, we run out of oil, and metals and minerals are near depletion....

I don't believe I mentioned that in my comment. It's purely within the context in which I have put it. Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (segedunum) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208401 http://osnews.com/thread?208401 True but computing and technology, their availability, linear development, production and use etc. do not stand apart from social and economic bases: why was IBM's computing arm sold to China? You might say because China after 40 years had defeated starvation by the means of the one-child policy for decades...Edited 2007-02-02 16:45 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (orfanum) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208403 http://osnews.com/thread?208403 she looks like Wallace from Wallace and Gromit, Rachel Ray is way hotter Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tspears) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208404 http://osnews.com/thread?208404 Yeah the OS probably doesn't seem that cool when you have to pay for it ;-) Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tspears) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208514 http://osnews.com/thread?208514 Heh...maybe. I have such a thing for Italian women though. Ray is just too bubbly for me ;-). Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jayson.knight) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208524 http://osnews.com/thread?208524 or Vista v OS X is just as dumb (and fun) as the debate between these two women.

Oh, by the way, I live in Australia, so hadn't seen these two women before, I had to youTube them. I think the Italian girl is much nicer :-) Not sure about their personalities, but looks I think she wins...

Maybe that's why OS X looks nicer than Vista (to me), Jim likes Rachel - lol Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (thavith_osn) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?208547 http://osnews.com/thread?208547 HA! Ok, fair enough. The FHM shots were....interesting, to say the least. "Food" and "sexy" is a weird combination, but whatever tickles the proverbial pickle. She's a little more thicker, these days. The girl likes to eat. I think the pics were from a few years ago, and a little "digital magic" was sprinkled in for flavoring.

No Food Network over there, huh? Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Phloptical) Comments