http://www.osnews.com/story/17185/Will_Vista_Run_Your_Games_ Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:18:36 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?209836 http://osnews.com/thread?209836 I happened to catch a review over at anandtech and jeez........

They've taken bloat to a whole new level. If you gamers out there think you're gonna get by with only a measily 1 or 2 gb of memory that you may have currently.........

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2917&p=3

Seems that 3 gb is what a gamer would need.

It makes me want to rip my hair out.Edited 2007-02-06 22:28 Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (halfmanhalfamazing) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?209848 http://osnews.com/thread?209848 Just buy XBox or PS if it bothers you that much. And games run smoother too. And it will solve the problem if you're not using Windows, too. Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gonzo) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?209864 http://osnews.com/thread?209864 Or, spend no money at all and stick with XP! Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kroc) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?209866 http://osnews.com/thread?209866 Slower, not as compatible as XP. Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (cyclops) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?209881 http://osnews.com/thread?209881 I play all my games in Windows Server 2003. So far I have not had any problems. All games that work in XP work in 2003. Tue, 06 Feb 2007 23:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (edwardyawn) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?209882 http://osnews.com/thread?209882 Just buy XBox or PS if it bothers you that much.

Or read books instead. Trust me, you'll be much better off. Tue, 06 Feb 2007 23:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (WorknMan) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?209898 http://osnews.com/thread?209898 wut dat?!11 dat da pieces of paper stuck togther n shit? booooriiing!!1


Most people have a hard time paying attention to notices posted on walls much less sit and read a 300 page book.

I know, I work at a library. It's pretty sad.

I use to game a lot on my PCs... But I stopped keeping up with the upgrade curve a few years back and mostly use my ps2 slim and dreamcast now. Works quite well actually. Tue, 06 Feb 2007 23:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (helf) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?209908 http://osnews.com/thread?209908 I'm running all my games in Vista, even those that didn't work in XP. Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Angel Blue01) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?209927 http://osnews.com/thread?209927 "Windows has been the best OS for gamers for years, and Vista takes that to the next level."

Uh ... any version of Nitendo and PlayStation are the better game OSs.
XP and Vista aren't even close. Wed, 07 Feb 2007 01:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sabon) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?209962 http://osnews.com/thread?209962 "Windows has been the best OS for gamers for years, and Vista takes that to the next level."

That comment would be viable if other OS's had DirectX, thats like saying our car has the best speed because it has tires and yours dont. Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SlackerJack) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?209969 http://osnews.com/thread?209969 That is realy a question of taste. Not everyone likes simplistic console games. PC gamers usually prefer complex games and there are hardly any Playstation or Nintendo games that are complex.

Then there are the first person shooter players who don't want to use gamepads.

The last console game that i liked was "Street Fighter 2" and i did had a bunch of consoles (SNES, PS, PS2) but it was always the same. After about a month i didn't use them anymore and played pc games instead. Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Alleister) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?209984 http://osnews.com/thread?209984 I fear for the future. All of the gaming addicts and other useless techno-degenerates will be classified as disabled and people who decided to read a book and find a job will end up paying for their RAM and pizza delivery.

Of course there are plenty of ambitious and productive people who enjoy some gaming as a stress-reliever. But two of my college roommates ended up doing nothing but gaming and flunked out. They didn't go to class, didn't do any homework, and didn't show up for exams. All they wanted from life was to play Counterstrike (or whatever).

They're smart people (this was Carnegie Mellon, not some party school), but I just don't know how they're going to make it. Many of my friends put all sorts of wacky chemicals in their brains, yet it was the gamers that couldn't deal with reality. Wed, 07 Feb 2007 04:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (butters) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?209999 http://osnews.com/thread?209999 "But two of my college roommates ended up doing nothing but gaming and flunked out."

Hey, they can alway become "cyberathletes" and compete in the "cyberolympics". Everyone knows playing computer games is a sport just like chess, monopoly and strip poker. Oh wait... Wed, 07 Feb 2007 06:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?210026 http://osnews.com/thread?210026 i've got vista ultimate installed on two high end boxes here and quake 3 looks like it has no opengl working correclty even though i'm using nvidia's latest vista drivers

it looks extremely DARK in the game, and this reminds me of way back when xp first came out and there was issues with the video drivers,

anyone else have this problem with quake3 and vista, and even better know of a solution ? Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (anyweb) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?210032 http://osnews.com/thread?210032 Vista and games? They don't support gameport! So you can throw all your good joysticks out... SHAME! Hope that this issue will be fixed in SP1 and they add gameport joysticks support. Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dulus) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?210033 http://osnews.com/thread?210033 Vista is crap for games.

Enemy Territory, totally unplayable, framerate of 2fps
Microsoft excuse is that it is OpenGL based game, so what ?

FIX IT Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (raver31) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?210067 http://osnews.com/thread?210067 So get a proper driver for your board.

MS only supports DX and OpenGL 1.1 on Vista.

For higher versions the support has to come from your card manufacter. Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (moondevil) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?210068 http://osnews.com/thread?210068 yes, nvidia drivers

get them here

http://www.nvidia.com/page/technology_vista_home.html

however, this does not change the fact that microsoft has deliberately sabotaged OpenGL performance in Vista.

I feel sorry for the cabbages who think Vista is the dogs bollocks, they are going to spend their hard earned cash on something that will put them off buying from microsoft in the future. Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (raver31) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?210075 http://osnews.com/thread?210075 >> if other OS's had DirectX

But THE FACT is that they don't have it.

>> our car has the best speed because it has tires and yours dont

Again - stating the fact Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (agentj) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?210088 http://osnews.com/thread?210088 maybe Transgaming will release Cedega for Vista? Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (batdan) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?210098 http://osnews.com/thread?210098 "I feel sorry for the cabbages who think Vista is the dogs bollocks, they are going to spend their hard earned cash on something that will put them off buying from microsoft in the future."

Or, if you're feeling particularly sarcastic, I guess you could say: "money well spent" Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Darkelve) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?210111 http://osnews.com/thread?210111 Heh, you beat me to it.

Most of the games I play are OpenGL, so it seems like the better gaming platform for me is Linux, which plays them all as flawlessly.

Never thought I'd see that day. Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JonO) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?210175 http://osnews.com/thread?210175 It's not just Quake 3. I play Quake 1 like an addict, but on Vista with a fairly decent system (4.6 experience rating, only the 2 gigs of RAM holding me back), my framerate fluctuates from 99 fps to 12 fps on a regular basis. The problem is the OpenGL support in the drivers. Both ATI and NVidia said they were going for stability at this point, which is fine and there, but doesn't do us any good. Stable at 15 fps isn't exactly playable. This isn't Microsofts problem so much, they rewrote the driver framework to work better, and as a consequence the manufacturers have to rewrite their drivers. In 6 months to a year we will probably be thankful, but for right now I can't play Quake.

Unfortunatly, those of us who have upgraded to Vista are in a small minority right now, and going by the video card manufacturers we aren't large enough for them to support well when most people still use XP. In a year or so, when plenty of people have bought PC's with Vista, we can expect to see them to improve things. Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (iarann) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?210180 http://osnews.com/thread?210180 Looks like you fell victim to the FUD from the opengl guys.

Read this when it's back online: http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=380046 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sappyvcv) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?210215 http://osnews.com/thread?210215 "Looks like you fell victim to the FUD from the opengl guys."

Its not like Nvidia is being sued or anything.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070206-8784.html

The benchmarks that you see run are interesting. The applications run well but the 01 run slower. Often a lot slower.

You see particular games being touted depending on whether the site is showing of how good or bad the it is under Vista.

The opengl games see to suffer the most. some up to 30-40% for both cards.

Compatibility is evident in that some games wont play or have glitches. Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (cyclops) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?210428 http://osnews.com/thread?210428 I can't even remember when i last saw an Gameport device... must have been somewhat around 2000. Thu, 08 Feb 2007 04:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Alleister) Comments