http://www.osnews.com/story/17459/Freespire_2_0_Alpha_1_Released Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:36:25 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?219986 http://osnews.com/thread?219986 Looking at the forum posts, this seems to be a true Alpha, so don't install this on your main machine and wonder why you are toast. Put this on a safe machine to get a taste of what is coming up for Freespire. Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fretinator) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?219993 http://osnews.com/thread?219993 Yeah. Linspire 2.0 is at stage 1 again but now the packages are really bleeding edge.

Anyway, I wont expect to see a stable release for several months. Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Xaero_Vincent) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220035 http://osnews.com/thread?220035 Actually, unless you are a developer or willing to help debut it, don't put it anywhere.

We don't need a forum full of people whining about how an alpha release isn't working unless they are willing to file detailed bug reports. Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (porcel) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220038 http://osnews.com/thread?220038 Well it has same bug as in 1.0.13, 1.1.57, 1.1.73, 1.1.84 and earlier versions. I've submitted bug report using their program and emailed, but I had no answer from them. http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Report_Freespire_Bugs Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Zolookas) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220046 http://osnews.com/thread?220046 pic here http://shots.linuxquestions.org/?linux_distribution_sm=Freespire~*~... Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lqsh) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220060 http://osnews.com/thread?220060 http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Sources_list

Seems like for 2.0 they have copied the entire ubuntu fiesty on their mirror and are using it.

deb http://apt2.freespire.org/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://apt2.freespire.org/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe multiverse

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the distribution.

deb http://apt2.freespire.org/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://apt2.freespire.org/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://apt2.freespire.org/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://apt2.freespire.org/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted universe multiverse




And they have a seperate repository for Freespire addons if you look on that link above. Maybe this can be used on feisty too? heh since it's name is in the apt line:

# Freespire add-ons
deb http://apt2.freespire.org/CNRUbuntu skipjack-feisty main

It's good news that they will get the latest packages of everything but personally i prefer not to use distros that leech off others' hard work like this.. same goes with Mepis and the like that recently switched to Ubuntu.Edited 2007-03-09 19:41 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (siimo) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220075 http://osnews.com/thread?220075 personally i prefer not to use distros that leech off others' hard work

So you must not be running Linux then. Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sphinx) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220079 http://osnews.com/thread?220079 //personally i prefer not to use distros that leech off others' hard work\

Where do you think Ubuntu come from? Debian!
What about Windows? It has some Mac and BSD codes in it and whatever they bought, copy and stole. Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Accident) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220086 http://osnews.com/thread?220086 It's good news that they will get the latest packages of everything but personally i prefer not to use distros that leech off others' hard work like this

Yeah, that one doesn't fly. Distro's based off of distros is a long tradition. My favorite was Mandrake from Redhat. That was a good move in my opinion. But right now, I would say Debian is the king as foar as donating to other Distros:

Ubuntu, Mepis, Linspire(FreeSpire), Knoppix, DSL, Xandros.

For Redhat/Fedora there is:

Suse, Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, SamLinux

I'm sure there are more, but that gives a flavor for how distro's are based off of others.

[EDIT: Spelling]Edited 2007-03-09 21:00 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fretinator) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220107 http://osnews.com/thread?220107 suse was based off of slackware http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux
http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_HistoryEdited 2007-03-09 22:01 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jburn) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220116 http://osnews.com/thread?220116 I knew I was going to get one wrong! I guess I was fooled by the RPM package format. Thanks!

BTW, Slackware was my first foray into Linux. I remember downloading it by modem and creating the 13 or so floppies. It was fun but maddening at the same time. There are many Slackware-derived distros out there. And gentoo-based, etc.

Anyhoo, thanks for the correction!Edited 2007-03-09 22:23 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fretinator) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220120 http://osnews.com/thread?220120 He must actually be using either QNX or a ZX Spectrum. Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (raver31) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220137 http://osnews.com/thread?220137 off topic wish i knew about linux back then ;( Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jburn) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220141 http://osnews.com/thread?220141 nothing is wrong with that...

I still remember back in the early days Linspire (Lindows) pre 1.0 release was almost identical with xandros... so now they realized that they could not maintain the monster they made out of it and signed a deal with ubuntu... fine... it can be only better... :-)

(k)ubuntu feisty (running it since herd 1) is going to be very nice... so will Freespire... Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pistooli) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220156 http://osnews.com/thread?220156 We don't need a forum full of people whining about how an alpha release isn't working unless they are willing to file detailed bug reports.

Well, then just never visit the Freespire forums, because this community seems to attract the whiners in droves. So your wireless isn't working. Is the adapter detected? Can you bring it up via iwconfig and dhclient? Did you try installing a vanilla kernel? Oh... you don't know how to do any of this!--Then why did you install an alpha build?

This is software debugging, not overclocking. You can't just go and get the very latest stuff and brag about how it POSTs at 4.2 GHz with the phase change system you bought. You actually need to have some skills and/or the desire to learn stuff. Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (butters) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220157 http://osnews.com/thread?220157 Seems like for 2.0 they have copied the entire ubuntu fiesty on their mirror and are using it.

Or, rather, for 2.0-alphaU1 they just want to focus on being able to produce Feisty-based builds that don't have any major regressions from Ubuntu's own development builds. It seems like they aren't completely there yet. Once they can match Ubuntu's build quality, they can start adding/modifying packages and such. Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (butters) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?220199 http://osnews.com/thread?220199 They realized that Ubuntu and Debian work is better than only using Debian work to create a distro.

So it will basically be Ubuntu with some extra packages, config tools and some other customizations (theme, default package selection, codecs, CNR by default ,linspire stuff etc.). Kernel will be same as Ubuntu (therefore reusing Ubuntu stabilisation work). I'd like to see some experimental stuff included like ck patchset, lirc, or even suspend2 (if they'll have UI support for it implemented).

Wonder if their installer will directly fetch packages from ubuntu repos or will they mirror and mantain their own custom version. Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (siki_miki) Comments