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happy with 7 so far

donotreply@osnews.com (buff) — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:43:00 GMT

I have been happy with release 7 so far. I currently use Test 2. I am downloading Test 3 right now.

Bittorent page for Fedora downloads:
http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/

live CD's?

donotreply@osnews.com (evilmegaman) — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:07:00 GMT

I haven't read much about the live CD thing... are they installable live CD's like ubuntu? or are they just live CD's and you need to get the prime package to install? It'd be nice if fedora finally comes in a 1 cd form

RE: live CD's?

donotreply@osnews.com (Finalzone) — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:09:00 GMT

Yes, LiveCD versions are installable since Fedora 7 Test 2.

Echo Icon Theme

donotreply@osnews.com (Jack_Green) — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:20:00 GMT

I read in the announcement that the new Echo icon theme is included in this release. I hadn't heard of this icon theme so I decided to check it out.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoDevelopment

I know that this sort of thing is subjective, but I really don't like these icons at all. Am I alone here?

Screenshot: http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre2/49955-2.jpg

RE: Echo Icon Theme

donotreply@osnews.com (griffbrad) — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:11:00 GMT

I agree with you. I wish they'd just help out with the Tango project instead of trying to developer their own branded icons like this.

RE[2]: Echo Icon Theme

donotreply@osnews.com (Maners) — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:23:00 GMT

Tango is included in extras and I also like it a little more than Echo (expecially because it's more complete and consistent). However, I prefer to have the ability to choose Echo and Tango and any other icon set when I get bored with current one. Echo is a quite new icon set and it still needs some tweaking and I belive it'll be able to compete with Tango in the near future, which is good for us all.

RE: Echo Icon Theme

donotreply@osnews.com (egon_spengler) — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:16:00 GMT

I find the icon set rather refreshing, myself. Different, but not too different.

RE[2]: Echo Icon Theme

donotreply@osnews.com (richip) — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:29:00 GMT

Icon themes are one of the most opinion-dependent components. So if they feel the need to create a new set for Fedora (say as part of an overlaying theme), then they should do so. The thing is, if you don't like their taste in design, why would you want them contributing their brand of design to something you like?

RE: Echo Icon Theme

donotreply@osnews.com (esper) — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:41:00 GMT

Anything is better than bluecurve, which is probably the worst icon theme to grace a linux desktop.

Bluecurve might have been acceptable in 1999, but why they used it up to fedora 7 is beyond me.

RE: Echo Icon Theme

donotreply@osnews.com (Southern.Pride) — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:03:00 GMT

I am running FC6 presently I am going to download this release that theme is awesome!

RE: happy with 7 so far

donotreply@osnews.com (siimo) — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:57:00 GMT

You should be using Yum to update it instead of wasting time downloading new ISOs

RE[2]: happy with 7 so far

donotreply@osnews.com (buff) — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:40:00 GMT

You should be using Yum to update it instead of wasting time downloading new ISOs

I like to help out and test the install and I have to download the entire DVD ISO to do this but if I was just updating I would use yum.

RE[3]: happy with 7 so far

donotreply@osnews.com (Rahul) — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:50:00 GMT

The Live CD's use the same installer too as mentioned in the announcement so you don't have to really download the whole DVD just to test the installer. Also you can use the small boot.iso from one of the mirrors and do a network installation by using "linux askmethod" in the installation prompt.

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/6.92/P...

rc-kernel ?

donotreply@osnews.com (l30n) — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:35:00 GMT

I'm not sure that RC kernel is a good idea. In my opinion the should use 2.6.20 kernel (-> ubuntu). I thing it better idea :>

RE: rc-kernel ?

donotreply@osnews.com (Sabz) — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:01:00 GMT

< I'm not sure that RC kernel is a good idea. In my opinion the should use 2.6.20 kernel (-> ubuntu). I thing it better idea >

But fedora isn't Ubuntu, Ubuntu isnt about the Use of Bleeding Edge software, why they intend on using a Release Candidate Kernel/Based on the .21 kernel is more than likely Fedora 7 intends to have the 2.6.21 kernel in the final, so makes sense to test it now before the final is released

RE: rc-kernel ?

donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:02:00 GMT

"""
I'm not sure that RC kernel is a good idea.
"""

Well, the final release of FC7 is not due until well into May, by which time 2.6.21 will have been released. Better to start shaking any 2.6.21 specific bugs out now and get those fixes pushed upstream.

RE[2]: rc-kernel ?

donotreply@osnews.com (B. Janssen) — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:10:00 GMT

sbergman27: Better to start shaking any 2.6.21 specific bugs out now and get those fixes pushed upstream.

Full ACK. Add on top that Fedora/Red Hat doesn't care very much for proprietary drivers -- those are the funny little binaries that regularly choke on the "fast moving" Linux kernel -- and that 2.6.21 will bring some very interesting updates for the ACPI infrastructure, esp. dual-queued ACPI notification, which will make many laptop users very happy (and their TZ control work )

While I'm not usually a Red Hat guy I was impressed with RHEL5 and I certainly will give Fedora 7 a spin once it is released. BTW, I like echo

RE[3]: rc-kernel ?

donotreply@osnews.com (h3rman) — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:07:00 GMT

Red Hat doesn't care very much for proprietary drivers

Indeed, it doesn't give a toss.
My reason for lovin 'em.
[crybaby mode]"That's why Fedora/RH will never make it on the desktop"[/] :lol: :yawn:

This test is very promising.

PS: osnews ed.s: what's this?
Here I read:
"/Only *Bold* and *Italics* tags are allowed//"
There I read:
"Please use

and

to quote a parent comment."
That's a contradiction.

RE[3]: happy with 7 so far

donotreply@osnews.com (wibbit) — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:49:00 GMT

This is not the case for updating from F7t2 to F7t3, however. It is explicitly recomended NOT to update between FC6 and F7 via yum due to some rather substantial changes to the ide subsystem, which would result in a non-booting environment.

Regarding yum udpates between F7t2 and F7t3, I believe that Fedora have maintained that they do NOT support this upgrade path, and there is no garentee that it will work.

So all in all, I'm not sure why you feel he should be using yum update at all.

However, one other method of reducing bandwidth usage, and is available to any one with a router, would be to perform a network install over http/ ftp, and as such only download the required package. I do this simply because it's a darn site quicker.

RE: rc-kernel ?

donotreply@osnews.com (leon) — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:35:00 GMT

If ubuntu has as many kernel hackers as Redhat, they can. But unfortunately that's not gonna happen in short while.

I like Fedora very fast pace just like the Free Software movement.

6.91

donotreply@osnews.com (jollyx) — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:20:00 GMT

6.91 release did not work well for me - crashes, freezes, buggy, but I do not blame devs, it's a Beta afterall The best Fedora experience I've had was with Fedora 3. Then 4 and 5 were not so good for my needs. Hope 7 will do it well for me.

RE[2]: rc-kernel ?

donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:18:00 GMT

"""
If ubuntu has as many kernel hackers as Redhat, they can. But unfortunately that's not gonna happen in short while.
"""

We're talking about one point release of the kernel difference between two distros that are releasing a month apart from each other.

I hardly see how the number of kernel hackers that each distro controls is relevant to that.

If Ubuntu were planning a release in May rather than April, the beta would begin in April and it would have the 2.6.21 (or rc) kernel.

That said, Fedora *is* more willing to take risks that might break things because their users are a different audience than Ubuntu's.

The whole point of employing hackers that work on *the vanilla kernel* is that we all get the benefit of their efforts.

You make it sound as though RedHat employs them to make private fixes to the Fedora kernel's code base to gain an advantage over everyone else.

polished look

donotreply@osnews.com (netpython) — Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:01:00 GMT

I don't dislike the new artwork.Gives the whole a different (better look).Another wise step is the combined repos.While yum isn't by far as smooth as apt.But than again fedora has more security features.Coming months will be interesting.

RE: polished look

donotreply@osnews.com (netpython) — Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:32:00 GMT

But than again fedora has more security features.

Mozilla browsers,evolution thunderbird email to name a few are now governed as default bu SELinux policy.