Hopefully something Microsoft can solve in a service pack.

The only people that I know that critisize Vista to death are people who use open-source operating systems.

It is important to note that Ubuntu's performance in combination with Beryl was not exactly stellar either on the desktop machine. All the effects had a delay and were jittery. Note that I have yet to try running Beryl 0.2-final (I only ran the test versions of 0.2) on this machine.

Vista is great for gaming with DX10(In my opinion, gamers run the IT market. Win the gamers, you win the market)

I think you are confusing machine here. Beryl was jittery on my desktop machine (Radeon 9000), as clearly said in the article. Beryl on the laptop (Radeon x300) flies.

But, there are millions of people out there who do want the proprietary driver, and for them, my complaint is valid.

Many people on tech forums compare Vista to XP, and ask why XP can run on a minute amount of ram, while vista takes so much. [...] The reason is (obviously) that XP is doing a hell of alot more. Now, if you are happy with the feature-set of 95, then by all means, continue to use it.

Thirdly, what is up with the "Windows has blocked startup programs" notification balloon? No matter what I do, it keeps popping up after a reboot. There is no logical method of turning it off, and I don't even know what it does, since all startup programs it lists are actually running! So what is it blocking?

Then why does Ubuntu work fine on my IBM T23, with 256 MB of RAM?

It surely won't run Vista.

'nothing built into Ubuntu'

If by Aero you mean completely redesigned multimedia toolchain, where audio, video, and yes, desktop rendoring, performs significantly better and in a modern fashion

I don't understand that argument. Vista DRM capabilities give users the CHOICE of being able to use modern media.

If by Aero you mean completely redesigned multimedia toolchain, where audio, video, and yes, desktop rendoring, performs significantly better and in a modern fashion, and by UAC you are including the myriad security technologies that bring windows from the travesty that was XP to one of the most secure operating systems out there, you have still only scratched the surface of the improvements done to the os.

OSX.0 was a half done, unusable piece of garbage. It took 3 major revisions (that users had to pay for) to get to the point where it usable,

It's only slower on benchmarks from BETA drivers several months ago. That's shocking! Nvidia drivers are still bad so performance is down a bit there but ATI users have the same performance as XP.

In fact anandtech has a review up showing oblivion running faster in vista than in XP.

4gb of ram is no where near a requirement. It's not even necessary. I speak from first hand experience.

How much RAM do you really need for Windows Vista? We recommend a bare minimum of 1GB of memory for all Vista users, 2GB if you're a power user but don't have a lot running at the same time, and 4GB if you hate the sound of swapping to disk.

How exactly DRM is obtrusive in Vista?
Say, I'm a Joe User. Provide an example of how I'm supposed to feel the obtrusive nature of DRM.

Old article along with beta drivers. Things have improved since then though Nvidia still does have a ways to go.

For me everything is faster than XP on the same system, or at least the same speed. Everything. Even my latency has dropped in games.

I went from 2gb of ram to 4gb and noticed no difference. There wasen't much hard drive thrashing before and when it does happen it doesn't affect performance like it does in XP. And it's not a requirement. It's just there so superfetch can cache more to it. Nothing is hurt by not having it.

That article is nothing but FUD. And what you are saying only affects video card drivers. ATI has their act together, why not Nvidia?
And even then that DRM is ONLY in effect when protected HD content is being played. Performance should not be affected at any other time despite what your BS article says.

"At the time of that article vista was released to consumers for a day.

And as someone who has been running it for months I can tell you it is faster. But the only way you'd believe is if I could bring you over here and show you."

Drivers are not really Vista's fault. Games run slow cause of crappy drivers mate.

As for Beryl, quite honestly, I hate it. The Vista effects are subtle, and under a quarter of a second, which is exactly how such things should be. I like subtle alot more then clicking minimize, and waiting 5 seconds as the window slowly drips into my taskbar.

Really? I double-clicked the OpenOffice installer, and within minutes had a free, perfectly usable office suite.

Vista has a protected media path, preventing tapping into any of the content. Even if you're playing an unprotected video in WMP, the video and WMP are still actively protected from being recorded or modified.

Then keep in mind that for that to work "Out of the box", you're either running a Windows OEM install, a loaded OS X install, or a violation of the terms of the GNU Public License (v2 or later), which doesn't forbid you from making it work, but it forbids distribution of the components in a "just works" fashion.

I don't see this happening.

The most popular subsets of games still don't map well to consoles: first person shooters, massively multiplayer games and strategy games.

Plus, much of the PC gaming scene also revolves around the modability of games-- something consoles can't provide.

In fact, from my perspective as a middleware developer, I see a rebirth happening in the PC game industry right now.

Game development is slowing moving from large monolithic game houses to smaller studios.

Linux has an opportunity to take advantage of this transition, but it will require a rather large effort to provide stable driver support and good tools for game development.

was just asking a question, man... not attacking your OS.

Frankly, I don't care enough about UI to try out a linux distro just for that. When I'm using linux, it's mostly from a virtual console or at most a Konsole.

I don't care what other people use. I'm just interested in seeing the good engineering win out over the bad. I also like to look at and think about the different approaches groups take and the eventual outcomes.

Vista: Has Trusted Computing; Built into the OS; You can only view HD Protected content through a major upgrade in hardware or which a small number of computers on sale support. Your Protected(sic) media causes your computer to pass information to a third-party, which can change at *any* time though an update. With any false positive crippling your machine; The ramifications of this go *beyond* that of the OS itself to the hardware which comes with exiting technology.

Linux: buy a Chinese HD-player.

Which of these offers choice *Linux*. Linux has offered the choice of buying an OS that is not crippled by DRM

Vista is rubbish. I actually write that with glee. Its worse than XP and is starting to slip behind Linux!? and that has had advantages for a long time. A project started by those people you attempt to ridicule.

Does Linux offer the same rich(sic) multimedia as Windows. No for the price of downloading a few codecs it provides a *better* experience.

So why are you down the bottom of a forum posting away...because thats all Microsoft have got their primary products are mature so they are after control of content. Its worth Billions.

Thats why hardware is going to cost *more* to buy from a driver development/Hardware perspective, why HD content will be blurry or not be able to play at all. Why hardware can be *switched* off remotely by Microsoft, or small changes can cause *soft resets* of your graphics. Expensive hardware being rendered useless. Of course this is in the future because the hardware is simply not readily available, or the premium content(sic)

The sad thing is. I feel *better* than you. This is happening to *your* platform. You are actually *supporting* this kind of lock-in to a platform. Microsoft abuses its position and you *support* them. Anything that keeps Microsoft a monopoly makes them *worse* seriously look at Vista, its embarrassing.

but you keep up with your sick little words to marginalize those who do care. The trouble is its *you* thats the minority.

DRM is not about Richard Stallman or even Linus.

If you think that talking about them makes you feel better feel free to carry on. Clearly you need to work on your ridiculing.

Nobody likes DRM; Nada; Nobody at all, and when I mean nobody I mean consumers; customers; potential buyers...and thats well everyone.

I'll tell you a little secret how you make lots of money is you make it good; cheap; and readily available product.

Vista the little devil constantly checks for this protected content. Could you give me figures as to how this is not constantly taking up CPU of memory it seems to do this an awful lot, or isn't a potential vulnerability.

Of course you are aware of the multitudes of *alternative* ways this could be implemented. None of which are as intrusive.

I'm glad we agree the general consensus by technical people that after 5 years Vista *technically* is a failure. Of course you don't realize the there are *twice* the number of computers in the world as when XP launched. Thats without all the upgrade vouchers; mass buying by manufactures etc etc...but you know all this. Vista is not selling to expectations; Monopoly product sells, but then I would to hear your theories on how you measure the success of a monopoly product, because I'm stumped how to measure it. CLearly if there is any indication its how many people don't...and the number that don't is rising.

I'm a little pleased at your little list, because it didn't cover anything. I'm certainly not true. Otherwise I wouldn't be using my *legal* copy of realplayer here. I can understand that Microsoft codecs not being legal...but people arn't using them...yet show me where to license them, but what about *all* the other codecs, you have nothing to say about those. Your just making all this up. The sad thing is I've never used my computer to play DVD's, and wouldn't watch degraded HD-Content on my monitor ever it kind of defeats the point. I'm sure people do. I do watch those plash movies over the internet though, but basically you have no idea. seriously point me to a place of purchase with a proper list.

I loved the way you have moved onto Adobe products. You really must need some support for Vista could you post the prices I believe they are a little expensive. Could you post the numbers for copies sold worldwide vs the one billion computers in circulation, or those already using an alternative platform to Vista already. Could you point out a single feature of photoshop that the vast Majority of people are likely to want from a package. The reality is professional graphics artists are thin on the ground, and the problem is becoming less that the problem is Gimp, Gimpshop removed all doubt its that graphic artists over many years find photoshop natural....but again what has this to do with Vista

Oh you mentioned RAD. I love this one. I love the words. Yes there are RAD tools for Mono, because clearly nobody uses things like C or Python or Peal or Java or C++ etc etc. If thats what you want, but if we really are talking about "Rapid Application Development" Linux does have one thing in *Droves* and that is source. Its quite useful for RAD. Oh and has come great IDE's do like eclipse. Again could you point me to the figures of how much Visual studio cost. The percentage of people in the world who bought it etc

Wow I love your list wow font rasterization thats like available for every OS, oh yes it is.

I'm glad you like audio on Vista you do know that thats crippled on Vista due to DRM, and for many people who bought high end cards Vista currently does not run, but please go on your computer plays sound.

New network what. I do find it funny when you cut and paste. Networking is slower on Vista. I liked saying that. I'll say it twice networking is slower on Vista. Oh I'm glad its improved becuase you have to set up your network like *once* for a home network...shame its slower.

I'm glad you use Ready-boost technology it sounds great for those people with 4GB of memory although I'm sure prices of memory will drop.

Although I'm sure your aware that Linux support has always been better than that of competing platforms, but I'm sure those troubleshooting buttons will be useful.

Wow FSF "hippy nutjoys" well I never attacking a group of people who desire code to be available and those that use that code to share with others, these people sound dangerous. Why was I not warned? Seriously these people sound dangerous. Help!! I do find it funny when you are so over the top about that. Want people to Share code eh? scumm.

The bitkeeper fiasco was nice and simple, Linus used a propriety tool with lock-in implications becuase it was free, and suddenly it wasn't available any more. He was stuffed, I think that thats the last time he does a favor for a friend.

"Users will find their PCs' compromised by the persistent and continuous content access checks carried out by Vista."

Please point to an informed article that says otherwise, and please stop using the term HD content that is deliberately misguiding use the correct ambiguious words "premium content" or better yet "DRM crippled content"

I'm temped to believe the CEO of Microsoft than you sorry.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/pcs/how-to-piss-off-balmer-and-steal-vis.....

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2917&p=9

"Without the ability to separate Vista's networking stack from the drivers for our NICs, it's impossible to tell if this slowdown is the fault of the networking stack being worse for this situation, or if the Vista drivers for this line of Marvell NICs are not quite as tuned, so as a comparison to XP this test is inconclusive...The one bright spot however is that when enabled, Compound TCP is clearly having some effect even on our low-latency network."

I'm still trying to figure out how you think multimedia means media creation go on. Show me the figures I asked for. You changed topic becuase you thought you were on safer ground talking about how Adobe Products are available for Vista...so Vista must be better.

I hate to point out the only language that I think you can't get is "D" and I'm sure there is an implementation somewhere. So basically you were talking nonsense.

Wow Linux fonts use the *same* implementation as that of Apple. How can they be better. Oh they can't. In reality you can't tell the difference. font problems on Linux went away years ago.

Don't even begin to compare sound architectures. I click on a sound file it plays music.And a Video file too. Hey both of those have volume controls. Seriously thats shameful.

Seriously unless you can point to direct infringement; have knowledge of the law, stop talking nonsense but clearly you know nothing...You have already shown your lack of knowledge with the whole realaudio thing.

So your saying you find the FSF offensive....I do like the way your prepared to back one open source group over another when they both speak from the same hymsheet just one from a political bent and the other from a development one, and they both have a low of shared beliefs.

The FSF I would love you to point out the FSF *nut*. I believe the protocol was reverse engineered by a kernel developer was the instigating factor. So I'm calling you a liar.