OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/18040/European_Court_s_Microsoft_Ruling_September_17th Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:10:09 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Hopefully http://osnews.com/thread?245729 http://osnews.com/thread?245729 Hopefully some people will realise they have been handling this completely the wrong way (fighting monopolistic practices by focusing on mediaplayers?) and shins will be kicked. Wed, 06 Jun 2007 21:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Ronald Vos) Comments Ruling http://osnews.com/thread?245731 http://osnews.com/thread?245731 I don't know the finite details of the case, I can only speak from my own personal opinion, so I'll stay quiet. So I'd be very interested to hear what happens, what the ruling is that come down about all this, and how it affects Microsoft's distribution of its software. Wed, 06 Jun 2007 21:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Lengsel) Comments Just one line and then we can continue. http://osnews.com/thread?245830 http://osnews.com/thread?245830 Microsoft broke the european law.

You can dance Flamenco naked around the Himalaya and that will not change.

I do not care if every person thinks that we in Europe are twisted green envious little men that attacks healthy US business.

We have laws and Microsoft broke them

All...

All time...

With gusto.

After everyone agrees ( not as an agreement, but because it is a FACT) on this, we can discuss methods and reasons of the decision.

I wrote an article a couple of years ago on this very site

http://www.osnews.com/story.php/6612/Microsofts-EU-Punishment-First...

So, I do not want to hear another trolling on us european commies again.

It is law Baby, as simple as that Thu, 07 Jun 2007 06:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (capricorn_tm) Comments Opinion: I think Microsoft will loose this one http://osnews.com/thread?245857 http://osnews.com/thread?245857 They appealed because they never back down until last legal possibilities are gone - they have very big war stash so they will stay in court as long as they can.

Second my though was it was done in hopes they can stroke similar deal with EC as with US DOJ. EC has been very strict about this so far and there is no sign of change.

I am quite tired of Microsoft dirty tactics. There is bigger companies in the world but no one is such bully to law and order as Microsoft is. Thu, 07 Jun 2007 09:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pecisk) Comments Meh... http://osnews.com/thread?245900 http://osnews.com/thread?245900 No matter what happens, whatever punishment won't be enough, and more antitrust cases will be coming along.

This never would have happened if Microsoft were based in the EU. Heck, knowing politicians, if Microsoft were a EU company, the US would probably be bringing them up on fictional anti-trust charges.

A note to any company that comes after Microsoft: Do your best, but be sure to let someone else be #1. Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Almafeta) Comments RE: Ruling http://osnews.com/thread?245903 http://osnews.com/thread?245903 """
I don't know the finite details of the case, I can only speak from my own personal opinion, so I'll stay quiet.
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Well, that's gotta be an OSNews first! ;-)

-Steve Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) Comments RE: Meh... http://osnews.com/thread?245907 http://osnews.com/thread?245907
This never would have happened if Microsoft were based in the EU.


It is hard to believe that Microsoft would be behaving any better if it were based in the EU.

There are enough example of European companies violating market regulation laws and being treated accordingly, so your assumption that European companies would be ethically superior doesn't hold. Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (anda_skoa) Comments RE[2]: Meh... http://osnews.com/thread?245916 http://osnews.com/thread?245916 I didn't want to suggest that Microsoft's behavior would change. I was just pointing out that these lawsuits are largely a result of xenophobia. Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Almafeta) Comments RE[3]: Meh... http://osnews.com/thread?245919 http://osnews.com/thread?245919
I didn't want to suggest that Microsoft's behavior would change. I was just pointing out that these lawsuits are largely a result of xenophobia.


Hmm, doesn't hold either. As I wrote, several European companies have been subjected to such cases as well.

Even companies from "powerful" countries (in the sense of begin most influencial in the EU, such as Germany, France) have been convicted if they were caught violating EU market laws. Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (anda_skoa) Comments No expected change http://osnews.com/thread?245927 http://osnews.com/thread?245927 Even if a guilty verdict is upheld against Microsoft - I'm still expecting the EU to bottle it and offer MS a token gesture penalty which will have little impact on MS let alone the industry MS has controlled.

I'd love to be proved wrong - in fact I actually dare the EU to make a bold statement.... Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Laurence) Comments RE: Meh... http://osnews.com/thread?245929 http://osnews.com/thread?245929 See capricorn_tm's post above. If MS stops breaking EU laws, then the EU will stop taking them to court - it's as simple as that. Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (archiesteel) Comments RE: Opinion: I think Microsoft will loose this one http://osnews.com/thread?245930 http://osnews.com/thread?245930 "
I am quite tired of Microsoft dirty tactics. There is bigger companies in the world but no one is such bully to law and order as Microsoft is.
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You sure about that? I'm pretty sure oil barrons have gone as far as threatoning to strangle a countries oil supply in order to gain their goal (be it political power or otherwise).Edited 2007-06-07 16:37 Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Laurence) Comments Prediction http://osnews.com/thread?245931 http://osnews.com/thread?245931 Microsoft was tried and convicted in the U.S.

What was their punishment? They gave software to schools - AKA, free advertising!

I predict something similar in the E.U. - governments or schools will get free software.

But I hope not! Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fretinator) Comments RE[2]: Meh... http://osnews.com/thread?245934 http://osnews.com/thread?245934 "
See capricorn_tm's post above. If MS stops breaking EU laws, then the EU will stop taking them to court - it's as simple as that.
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Being taken to caught doesn't automatically mean a punishment will be administered (let alone the penalty being severe enough to hurt the company thus deterring them from future EU law violations)Edited 2007-06-07 16:42 Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Laurence) Comments RE: Just one line and then we can continue. http://osnews.com/thread?246144 http://osnews.com/thread?246144 Microsoft broke the european law.

No they didn't, atleast not yet. All the EU has done is accused that the Microsoft broke law. I can't believe as person who claims to have a doctority of law doesn't know such a simple fact. Fri, 08 Jun 2007 06:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Karitku) Comments RE[2]: Meh... http://osnews.com/thread?246145 http://osnews.com/thread?246145 That's pretty much impossible because almoust all new inventions Microsoft is doing can be in some way see breaking EU laws. This is problem with laws that doesn't specify details but more an essence of law. Court rulings are often needed to specify laws, like in EU case of alcohol retail selling in Internet. If someone isn't familiar with this case, it's all about free movement of products inside EU. So far list has been changed so that this doesn't include alcohol or cars. Fri, 08 Jun 2007 06:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Karitku) Comments RE[4]: Meh... http://osnews.com/thread?246421 http://osnews.com/thread?246421 Hmm, doesn't hold either. As I wrote, several European companies have been subjected to such cases as well.

Even companies from "powerful" countries (in the sense of begin most influencial in the EU, such as Germany, France) have been convicted if they were caught violating EU market laws.

Rrrrrrrright. The EU has a special bug up its ass for Microsoft. Lemme hold my breath while the EU takes on European companies such as Airbus which are solely competitive due to state subsidies.

1...... 2 ..... 3 .... Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tomcat) Comments RE: Hopefully http://osnews.com/thread?247408 http://osnews.com/thread?247408 Hopefully some people will realise that media players are just one minor aspect of this whole case. Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (reinouts) Comments