http://www.osnews.com/story/18101/Eclipse_Speed_Wizards_Can_Help Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:32:46 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread?248827 http://www.osnews.com/thread?248827 Thanks for posting Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (_mikk) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?248853 http://www.osnews.com/thread?248853 Four news stories today, two the day before, and two the day before that? I used to check OSNews a few times a day, but at this rate it'll be down to 2-3 times a week. I like the days of 10+ as it provides enough content so that at least 1-2 articles appeal to a good cross section of folks.

Also (and I'm not complaining about this, just an observation) the last 8 or so articles I've submitted have all been declined. So I'm inclined to think that OSNews declining articles + less content == a change in OSNews' basic m.o. for publishing content? What gives?

I'm a long time OSNews reader, but if the lack of content continues (less content = less discussions, which is what most of us are here for anyways) then OSNews will go from a daily must read to a weekend 'scan the headlines' type site for me.

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread. Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jayson.knight) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?248855 http://www.osnews.com/thread?248855 :: visualizes jayson.knight sitting there hitting refresh ::

Yeah, I do it to. Shh! Don't tell anyone!Edited 2007-06-18 23:30 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rayiner) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?248864 http://www.osnews.com/thread?248864 After reading the headline, I thought the article was about speeding up eclipse. Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jasutton) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?248872 http://www.osnews.com/thread?248872 The article was about speeding up development on eclipse... Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (_mikk) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?248930 http://www.osnews.com/thread?248930 I don't know about you guys, but the wizards in most IDE's eventually cause too much pain to be of any long term use.

In the past, some of my gigs have been undoing the damage that a build an enterprise by "wizards" engineering effort can cause.

Part of that problem is that most of these wizards in a lot of tools I see are machine generated code, that is not well thought out or is used in obviously "lazy" ways.

One possible exception I see is for building GUI's. GUI's are an exception as the framework can be fairly well defined around the functional representation of a "widget". (Button, scroll bar...etc.).

But using widgets for like building http get request objects, databases..etc is applying generalities to operations on data that is too general to begin with.
(i.e. a database ooperation is way to generalized to be put into a framework.)

More often than not, these "wizards" cause big performance problems. These problems are compounded because the machine wrote the code, so attempting to fix them much later on can be a big job.

Not that I am complaining, it is a great source of income! A lot of companies try to generalize application development in the wrong areas, so I get a nice income by helping them fix all the problems this kind of view on software development brings to the table.

So please, wizardize everything, then call me.

:-)

-Hack Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hackus) Comments