http://www.osnews.com/story/18171/Linux_on_Windows_with_Lina Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:43:39 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?251619 http://osnews.com/thread?251619 We're already spoilt for choice the other way around too. VMware, Bochs and Qemu already run on Windows, and there is a Wine-like product called Line. How does this approach compare to all of these other choices? Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BrianH) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251623 http://osnews.com/thread?251623 Looks promising! I always found Cygwin the most confusing piece of software to install!!!

pac Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pacmania1982) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251625 http://osnews.com/thread?251625 It won't be long before the choice of OS is irrelevant, if all your favorite applications can be run under more than one OS. Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Isolationist) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251627 http://osnews.com/thread?251627 From the linked article:

"Building off a concept similar to Java, LINA aims to provide open-source developers the ability to compile applications that will run on all of Windows, MacOS X, and various Unix systems."

So, I believe is not like Wine or like VMWare, its more like a runtime environment for multiple platforms. Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rob_mx) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251639 http://osnews.com/thread?251639 The OS will always be important in order to speak to hardware. Applications (web 2.0 in paticular) are a fair few layers above this Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adurbe) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251646 http://osnews.com/thread?251646 I was referring to the *choice* of OS Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Isolationist) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251674 http://osnews.com/thread?251674 What is this "ilk" they mention at the start of the article?

Between WINE, VMware, BOCHs and ilk (...)

I tried to search the web for "ilk windows linux" but Google yields only Turkish pages. Can anyone give me a hint? Thanks. Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Detlef Niehof) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251681 http://osnews.com/thread?251681 From Dictionary.com

1.family, class, or kind: "he and all his ilk." Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (polaris20) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251682 http://osnews.com/thread?251682 It's a fancy way of saying "having similar qualities". So the quote could be written as:

Between WINE, VMware, BOCHs and similar systems

I hope this helps. Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kiz01) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251683 http://osnews.com/thread?251683 Damn, that was twisted! Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (samueldr) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251684 http://osnews.com/thread?251684 Is there another website than http://line.sourceforge.net/ for line? This one seems broken. Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (samueldr) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251687 http://osnews.com/thread?251687 I assume the use of "ilk" irked you and roused your ire. Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fretinator) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251695 http://osnews.com/thread?251695 i'm confused:
What exactly is in a LINA executable?
Our Linux executables are bundled in zip files that contain configuration files and native executables for each platform.

does this mean it's just compiling each app once for every platform LINA supports, and inlcuding all of those binaries in one big package? Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (brunascle) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251706 http://osnews.com/thread?251706 http://www.openlina.com/

Remember, Google is our friend! :-) Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DoctorPepper) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251731 http://osnews.com/thread?251731 I just run xming on my windows box (a very small systray X11 app) and do x11 forwarding over ssh to run my apps... Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ferreter) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251751 http://osnews.com/thread?251751 Thats what it sounds like. I doubt it will catch on with any developers, even more so since they said it cuts performance in half. Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sc3252) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251864 http://osnews.com/thread?251864 What about coLinux?
"Cooperative Linux is the first working free and open source method for optimally running Linux on Microsoft Windows natively. More generally, Cooperative Linux (short-named coLinux) is a port of the Linux kernel that allows it to run cooperatively alongside another operating system on a single machine. For instance, it allows one to freely run Linux on Windows 2000/XP, without using a commercial PC virtualization software such as VMware, in a way which is much more optimal than using any general purpose PC virtualization software."

http://www.colinux.org
http://colinux.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

I use coLinux with Xming and I can run any linux application directly in Windows. Sat, 30 Jun 2007 08:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wainamoinen) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251873 http://osnews.com/thread?251873 whats wrong with wxWidgets?
doesn't this do essentially the same thing? Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Lhyanor) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251976 http://osnews.com/thread?251976 No. wxWidgets is a completely separate GUI toolkit that is independent of the operating system it's running on. It's great for cross-platform software but it doesn't help with software that's written for Gnome or KDE. Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SamuraiCrow) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?251977 http://osnews.com/thread?251977 ...so there is no help for people running OSX or Linux under PowerPC. Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SamuraiCrow) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?252050 http://osnews.com/thread?252050 I look with envy to the Mac users... *they* are spoiled when it comes to Windows emulation.

To bad Parallels doesn't care for it's paying Linux users and saves all the candy for their Mac Versions.

When we have seamless integration of emulated Windows apps and 3d acceleration, then we are spoiled, but who cares for us Linux users. Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Alleister) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?252334 http://osnews.com/thread?252334 actualy, according to the openlina website:

Q: Can LINA run on 64 bit processors? What about PowerPC Macs?
A: LINA is capable of running on 64 bit processors, but this architecture will not be supported in our initial release. Our initial release for Mac OS X will support both the PPC and Intel versions. Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Bully) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?252501 http://osnews.com/thread?252501 I stand corrected! Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SamuraiCrow) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?252502 http://osnews.com/thread?252502 coLinux requires a dual-core processor, however. And, since Lina seems to run on PowerPC as well as Intel, it may yet be a useful porting tool. Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SamuraiCrow) Comments