OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/18470/Syllable_Server_Video_Demonstration Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2012, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:34:42 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com - http://www.osnews.com/thread?264122 http://www.osnews.com/thread?264122 it is bad resolution videos ;) it would be better if authors write and use smth like SnagIt.
http://prevedgame.ru/in.php?id=20508 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (twistys) Comments What's the point? http://www.osnews.com/thread?264133 http://www.osnews.com/thread?264133 The videos (especially the Server video) are are so blurry that you can barely see anything. Why film a screen with a camera? Why not just plug a recorder into the VGA port?

The Syllable devs also screwed up Linux so much that it crashes with a USB device plugged in. WTF?
IMHO Syllable Server is a waste of time. But hey... it's the devs' time. Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (KugelKurt) Comments RE: What's the point? http://www.osnews.com/thread?264137 http://www.osnews.com/thread?264137
The Syllable devs also screwed up Linux so much that it crashes with a USB device plugged in.


As far as I am aware, Kaj has used a stock 2.6 kernel compiled like any other. It isn't anything to do with Syllable: it's a Linux bug.

WTF?


Yeah, that was pretty much our reaction as well. Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Vanders) Comments RE: What's the point? http://www.osnews.com/thread?264152 http://www.osnews.com/thread?264152 "The Syllable devs also screwed up Linux so much that it crashes with a USB device plugged in. WTF?
I'm slightly more worried about how the Linux kernel will find new and innovative ways to screw up an otherwise good system...


"IMHO Syllable Server is a waste of time."
And so are comments like that. Why even read a news like this (plus watching a 10 minutes video), and wasting time on commenting it, if you think it's waste of time anyway?
Btw, why is it waste of time? because of the Linux part, or because of the Syllable part? Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BurningShadow) Comments RE[2]: What's the point? http://www.osnews.com/thread?264176 http://www.osnews.com/thread?264176
Why even read a news like this (plus watching a 10 minutes video), and wasting time on commenting it, if you think it's waste of time anyway?

I hoped that I'd see something in the video that would change my mind, but there was nothing to see except a few guys who cannot operate a video camera and a Linux distro that's so broken that even the most bleeding edge Linux distro offers better stability.

why is it waste of time? because of the Linux part, or because of the Syllable part?


I said that I find Syllable Server a waste of time, not Syllable itself. In http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=18165&comment_id=25... Vandaers said that they "just need to maintain our lower APIs on both kernels".
Yeah piece of cake... Obviously it's not. If it was so easy, the Server video actually had something to show like a GUI. Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (KugelKurt) Comments I liked it very much http://www.osnews.com/thread?264187 http://www.osnews.com/thread?264187 Just wanted to let you know that I liked both videos.
The boot time of Syllable Desktop was excellent on the old Laptop used.
And because Syllable Desktop doesn't boot on my hardware (too new) I'm looking forward to Syllable Server (and maybe using it as a Desktop).


Syllable folks, please don't listen to discouraging posts. I like the fact that you guys have a vision and the skills to do it.

Great job, as always! Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jello) Comments RE[3]: What's the point? http://www.osnews.com/thread?264188 http://www.osnews.com/thread?264188
Vanders said that they "just need to maintain our lower APIs on both kernels".
Yeah piece of cake... Obviously it's not.


Actually it will be. I've already done one prototype on top of SDL, which took about three weeks. The low-level API that will be common across server & desktop is actually pretty small.

If it was so easy, the Server video actually had something to show like a GUI.


Why do you think that? The version in the video is a development build. I need a usable development build before I can do any work on the APIs and get the appserver running. That's what is in the video. I've been on holiday and then been ill (In fact, I still am) so I haven't done any work on it yet. That's all. It's no grand conspiracy to defraud the readers of OSNews. Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Vanders) Comments RE: I liked it very much http://www.osnews.com/thread?264190 http://www.osnews.com/thread?264190
Just wanted to let you know that I liked both videos.


Thanks.

And because Syllable Desktop doesn't boot on my hardware (too new)


Syllable should boot on your hardware. It would be helpful if you could try the latest version and open a bug report if it still doesn't work. Syllable should never fail to boot because hardware is "too new": it may not have drivers for all of your hardware, but it should still at least boot ;) Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Vanders) Comments I can dig it. http://www.osnews.com/thread?264243 http://www.osnews.com/thread?264243 I have to admit, my first reacction was also "why bother?"

But looking at it another way, why not use different kernels for different purposes and bind them together with a common API. In some ways it makes more sense than trying to make a kernel be all things to all people (and I mean hardware just as much as I do people). It is good that there is an OS out there trying to be all things to all people, even if it will never succeed; that is wone of the things I like about linux. Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Jondice) Comments Random Thoughts http://www.osnews.com/thread?264294 http://www.osnews.com/thread?264294 I hope the cameraman is a better programmer than filmmaker.

It boots impressively fast.

But is rather ugly.

I'm not really sure I could see the supposed slowness of the linux kernel, given that it was running on hardware half as fast - but then it wasn't loading a desktop so it was hard to judge.

I really like the idea of Syllable Server. Let people try the userland on another kernel if the desktop one doesn't have the correct drivers, even if it might not be quite as good of a fit. I really think the userland is what matters most anyway.

But it was really at an early stage, just regular old linux with a couple of development tools ported. It will be much more interesting once the libraries have been ported over, and that will be the tough part. Sat, 18 Aug 2007 03:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (smitty) Comments