OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/18577/GNOME_GARNOME_2_20_0_RC_Released Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:13:59 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Release Notes http://osnews.com/thread?269321 http://osnews.com/thread?269321 A list of new features in Gnome 2.20 can be found at
http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNineteen/ReleaseNotes Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dmytro) Comments garnome?? http://osnews.com/thread?269335 http://osnews.com/thread?269335 What the heck is garnome? Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Ventajou) Comments RE: garnome?? http://osnews.com/thread?269344 http://osnews.com/thread?269344 >hat the heck is garnome?


Why don't you follow the link? Than you would have found this site which explain what GARNOME is:
http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome/

In short: "GARNOME is a build utility that allows users to build the GNOME Desktop." Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pinky) Comments Keyboard shortcuts? http://osnews.com/thread?269416 http://osnews.com/thread?269416 Fixed yet? It's not in the change log.

I've been filing bug reports for at least six or seven years, but neither the KDE/Kwin nor Gnome/Metacity devs have gotten around to allowing the WIndows key to be used as both a stand-alone shortcut and as an accelerator(. Well, sometimes they fix it so that works with xmodmap workarounds and then the next point revision breaks it again.) Other window managers have no problem implementing working shortcuts. WTF? Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (eggman) Comments No interest in Gnome? http://osnews.com/thread?269498 http://osnews.com/thread?269498 Why are there so few comments in here? Has Gnome lost its momentum? Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (djst) Comments RE: No interest in Gnome? http://osnews.com/thread?269501 http://osnews.com/thread?269501 What momentum?

The most exciting things I found in the roadmap for 2.20 for me were Eye of gnome, which really got better and the fact that they added stuff to file-roller which I almost considered abandonware. That one still sucks, imo. (the ability to drag and drop between file-roller and nautilus is no longer half broken but seems to have disappeared alltogether)

There's nothing to get excited about, they do their thing, and they do no bad job, but that's expected. Same procedure as every (half)year... Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wurb) Comments RE[2]: No interest in Gnome? http://osnews.com/thread?269506 http://osnews.com/thread?269506 True. They should have suspended public releases with GNOME 2.12 and released GNOME 2.20 as GNOME n^n.

They just don't know how to generate hype... :| Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (GhePeU) Comments looks great! http://osnews.com/thread?269509 http://osnews.com/thread?269509 Looks great to me. Party-on Gnome!
Great to see EOG get a rewrite, didn't think file-roller could get much better - it performs like I expect a archive tool to perform, nice improvements in other apps, wish nautilus would stay on the slimmer side rather than pickup a lot of *features* but maybe it is time for a nautiluslim? Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (meandean) Comments RE: looks great! http://osnews.com/thread?269512 http://osnews.com/thread?269512 Oh no, now you got me started! ;)

Yes, file-roller is able to extract archives...
But: When I open an archive and rightclick on something in there and choose copy, I'd expect I'd be able to paste it in a directory in the filemanager. When I'm able to drag stuff around I expect to be able to drop it somewhere. I can't do it in the same file-roller window, I can't do it in Nautilus. Only use is when I have two file-roller windows open, I can drag and drop between two archives (or the same archive). I wonder who uses a functionality like this.
Alltogether I'd rather have Nautilus being able to open and browse archives, I think that would be pretty elegant and would fit with the spatial philosophy quiet well.
I feel that it is also not the fastest app, even for gnome standards, which isn't the most hectic DE either. :p
But speed has always been adressed in the past releases. As I understand, lots of old and deprecated stuff gets left out over time, they just don't make a revolution out of it, instead work slowly and incremental towards that goal.
I'd rather have something revolutionary to look forward to like Kde4 with Gnome as well, otoh. it pretty much works as trusty everyday DE.Edited 2007-09-07 12:12 UTC Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wurb) Comments (draft) release notes http://osnews.com/thread?269513 http://osnews.com/thread?269513 http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/ Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (turrini) Comments RE[2]: looks great! http://osnews.com/thread?269516 http://osnews.com/thread?269516 Would you like it to make coffee too?

So what archive app do you feel is better than file-roller? Nothing beats file-roller for me.

Drag and drop works fine for me, so does copy and paste - from nautilus to file-roller and vice versa. I would rather have the file manager and the archive tool be seperate apps that work well together. I like a slim file manager.

Whats slow about it?

We had something revolutionary to look forward to a few years back when gnome 'broke the mold' and birthed 2.0 now we are just all waiting to see it 'brought up to speed' and they are doing a great job of it lately IMO.

Party on, Gnome!
http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/gnome10years.html Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (meandean) Comments RE: No interest in Gnome? http://osnews.com/thread?269519 http://osnews.com/thread?269519 Why are there so few comments in here? Has Gnome lost its momentum?

There's just not an awful lot of interesting stuff in the release, that's probably why. They haven't lost their momentum really, but the stuff that they can throw out every six months just isn't going to be spectacular. It's just a bunch of incremental improvements and a few bug fixes.

Personally, I think the set-in-stone six month, time based release cycle has hurt them. Yes, in terms of getting a new version out a time-based release is always going to get you a new release. However, what it doesn't guarantee you is that certain features will be in a certain release. What then tends to happen is that people keep putting off the difficult, long-term decisions because they feel that they can just put it off to a later release. There's also less of a long-term roadmap. Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (segedunum) Comments RE[3]: looks great! http://osnews.com/thread?269522 http://osnews.com/thread?269522
Would you like it to make coffee too?

I'm the last one to stop someone making me coffee.
So what archive app do you feel is better than file-roller? Nothing beats file-roller for me.

I personally like the way I could browse archives in Norton commander. Apart from that, if I just want to extract stuff I use rightclick --> extract here.
Drag and drop works fine for me, so does copy and paste - from nautilus to file-roller and vice versa.

Strange that it doesn't work here then.
I would rather have the file manager and the archive tool be seperate apps that work well together. I like a slim file manager.

That depends on how one interprets archives. Is an archive a document, like a PDF or a Jpeg? In that case opening it in a seperate app is imo. the way to go.
Or is it just a way to store files, basically like a directory or a mountpoint?
In that case I think the filemanager should do it.
Whats slow about it?

Sorry, I meant Nautilus, I've been very unclear here.
And yes, I like it to be fast and slim as well. But I'd be willing to accept a slight tradeoff for functionality I'd really like.

We had something revolutionary to look forward to a few years back when gnome 'broke the mold' and birthed 2.0 now we are just all waiting to see it 'brought up to speed' and they are doing a great job of it lately IMO.

Party on, Gnome!
http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/gnome10years.html

Totally agree, and I have no problem with it. However, I think it's sad that the three-point-zero page got discarded, I find brainstorms and general 'could-be discussions' always interesting when it comes to software. Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wurb) Comments RE[4]: looks great! http://osnews.com/thread?269545 http://osnews.com/thread?269545 could-be discussion - http://live.gnome.org/ScratchPad Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (meandean) Comments RE[2]: No interest in Gnome? http://osnews.com/thread?269557 http://osnews.com/thread?269557 GNOME has always been about small incremental features anyway, nothing has changed. BTW the new artwork team has not long been setup so you should see alot of fruit from that in 2.22. Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SlackerJack) Comments RE: No interest in Gnome? http://osnews.com/thread?269763 http://osnews.com/thread?269763
Why are there so few comments in here? Has Gnome lost its momentum?


What momentum?
The polar ice is melting faster than Gnome is progressing.
We'll have next ice age before Gnome 3.0 Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (shapeshifter) Comments RE[2]: No interest in Gnome? http://osnews.com/thread?269821 http://osnews.com/thread?269821 Why bother posting if you dont know what your talking about, there's lots of progress coming, you just dont need a 3.0 for it. Sat, 08 Sep 2007 22:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SlackerJack) Comments RE[3]: No interest in Gnome? http://osnews.com/thread?269851 http://osnews.com/thread?269851 Why bother posting if you dont know what your talking about, there's lots of progress coming

Do you have a roadmap somewhere telling us what all that is? Sun, 09 Sep 2007 09:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (segedunum) Comments RE[4]: No interest in Gnome? http://osnews.com/thread?269858 http://osnews.com/thread?269858
Do you have a roadmap somewhere telling us what all that is?


http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap

It was also covered here on OSnews:
http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17982/The-GNOME-Roadmap

I'm surprised you don't remember, considering that you trolled that thread too. Five times, nonetheless:
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=17982&comment_id=24...
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=17982&comment_id=24...
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The fact of the matter is that you're nothing but a bitter KDE-troll with nothing better to do than to trash-talk GNOME. You're not a developer, you don't contribute -- you're nothing but a hater. It's getting old. Sun, 09 Sep 2007 11:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kelvin) Comments RE[2]: looks great! http://osnews.com/thread?270208 http://osnews.com/thread?270208 FYI nautilus just got XDS DnD support yesterday so dragging from file-roller should work now. Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kmaraas) Comments