OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/18732/Introducing_MonaOS Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:35:32 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276537 http://osnews.com/thread?276537 Hmm, does it run on pre-Macintosh machines ?
That's make a MonaLisa ;)

(Sorry it's really late here :p) Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mmu_man) Comments hey http://osnews.com/thread?276539 http://osnews.com/thread?276539 those window decor and icons look suspiciously BeOSish... I suppose they deserve being taken as example ;) Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mmu_man) Comments RE: hey http://osnews.com/thread?276546 http://osnews.com/thread?276546 Beos Icons too ;) Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zizban) Comments RE: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276549 http://osnews.com/thread?276549 LOL... "Mona" means "Blond" in Latin-American Spanish. BlondOS. Who said blonds don't have the right to use a computer?

Anyway, I wonder if people are able to name an operating system without the terrible ~OS suffix.

PCLinuxOS
CentOS
SkyOS
ReactOS
MuchachOS
NachOS
... Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Joe User) Comments RE[2]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276552 http://osnews.com/thread?276552 It means "cute" in European Spanish.

Would you prefer the old *nix version? Monanix maybe? Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sadangel) Comments RE[2]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276563 http://osnews.com/thread?276563 You can prefix it, like OS X ;-) Sun, 07 Oct 2007 03:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (thavith_osn) Comments OS Envy http://osnews.com/thread?276574 http://osnews.com/thread?276574 The more homebrew OSs I see, the more time I wish I had for mine...

Cursed education! Sun, 07 Oct 2007 05:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Almafeta) Comments Documentation only in Japanese http://osnews.com/thread?276575 http://osnews.com/thread?276575 It's a nice and cute OS, but the API documentation is only in Japanese and this makes it difficult for foreign developers to develop applications.
And no, Babelfish and Google Language Tools don't make the situation any better.
If MonaOS' author sincerely wants applications developed for it then he should translate the API docs to English so hopefully we all can understand them. Sun, 07 Oct 2007 05:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tails92) Comments RE: Documentation only in Japanese http://osnews.com/thread?276578 http://osnews.com/thread?276578 "All" who speak English anyway. ;)

Which, to be fair, outnumbers those who speak Japanese by a good amount. Sun, 07 Oct 2007 05:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sadangel) Comments RE: Documentation only in Japanese http://osnews.com/thread?276579 http://osnews.com/thread?276579 bah, just call on the otaku's ;) Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hobgoblin) Comments RE[3]: first post ? (on the topic of OSNames) http://osnews.com/thread?276582 http://osnews.com/thread?276582 What we need is a MOANos for all the people who like to moan about OS features or bugs. I'm sure it should be as horrible to use and as bug-ridden as possible yet without renedring it unusable.

And "NachOS"? Quick, somebody make a WTFos! Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Buck) Comments RE[2]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276595 http://osnews.com/thread?276595 LOL... "Mona" means "Blond" in Latin-American Spanish. BlondOS. Who said blonds don't have the right to use a computer?

In my native dialect (in fact it's a different language, but for historical reasons it's considered a dialect) "mona" means "c*nt." Draw your conclusions. Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (GhePeU) Comments Unfortunate name http://osnews.com/thread?276611 http://osnews.com/thread?276611 Yeah, in some regions in Italy it would never become mainstream... (literally 'OS for dumb ones') Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (enkrav) Comments RE[3]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276614 http://osnews.com/thread?276614 > It means "cute" in European Spanish.

"Os" means "bone" in french. Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (superman) Comments RE[3]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276616 http://osnews.com/thread?276616 In my native dialect, too! :-D

P.S.
Your dialect/language is "Furlan"? :-) Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JohnOne) Comments RE[2]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276618 http://osnews.com/thread?276618 Um, I have never heard of a blonde being referred to as a "mona" in Spanish. Might be rather insulting since mona is actually a female monkey. Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (iskios) Comments RE[4]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276622 http://osnews.com/thread?276622 Venetian (from the province of Venice, so there's a strong Venetian influence but also some similarities with the Eastern Paduan dialect) ;) Edited 2007-10-07 13:11 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (GhePeU) Comments RE[5]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276627 http://osnews.com/thread?276627 I'm Venetian, put from the eastern part of the province. :-) Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JohnOne) Comments RE[4]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276628 http://osnews.com/thread?276628 Zioc*n! Un furlan su osnews! Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (enkrav) Comments RE[3]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276630 http://osnews.com/thread?276630 Mona is a dairy brand in The Netherlands, as well as a female first name. Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments MonaOS GUI / Code / Language http://osnews.com/thread?276640 http://osnews.com/thread?276640 Note: The most current release is geared towards a custom music player; it loads it after boot and quiting it can cause instability. If you download the alpha8 image it is easier to toy around with than the latest build rigged to run the music machine.

I've been following this for a few months, and higepon has interchangeable MacOS 9 and BeOS GUI skins for the system (which you can change while running...) fun, no?

A couple people have commented on the lack of English documentation -- I would contend that if you look at the code, most comments and functions are in English. You can build SVN easily on linux, and the code is pretty clean.

Given MonaOS is primarily developed by a Japanese student and a few Japanese compatriots I'm very pleased he puts so much time into making it dual language at all!

He even maintains Japanese and English versions of his blogs. This fella keeps updating his pages even though he receives little traffic, and gets few comments.

Perhaps now a few more interested people will learn from/contribute to this great open source hobbyist project-- that isn't millions lines of code to digest.

Anyways, thanks for posting this Thom. Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kad77) Comments RE[3]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276649 http://osnews.com/thread?276649
Um, I have never heard of a blonde being referred to as a "mona" in Spanish. Might be rather insulting since mona is actually a female monkey.


Try Brazilian Portuguese then... Here "mona" is how transsexuals* and transvestites* refer to each other and are referred to.


(* Not that I find any kind of sexual preference demeaning at all, but trust me, calling someone "mona", even among transsexuals and transvestites, has a demeaning connotation...)


Anyway, it's "Mona" from "Monad", the mathematical construct found in group theory, and in the particular case of this OS, "Monad" the adaptation of this construct to allow sane representation of side-effects on functional programming languages.


(Be thankful it's not 'echo MonadOS | sed s/M/G/' ...)



Edit: correct usage of prepositions in English language still mystify me.Edited 2007-10-07 16:25 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (meianoite) Comments Looked good. But... http://osnews.com/thread?276696 http://osnews.com/thread?276696 This OS looked good in the screenshots, but it was unable to boot on my current computer.

Stream: MemoryMap error
access denied.address = 0x00000000 Process FILE.BIN killed eip=0xADO13C96 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Bobthearch) Comments RE[4]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276698 http://osnews.com/thread?276698 """
Here "mona" is how transsexuals* and transvestites* refer to each other and are referred to.

"""

Do you think that might be related to that analysis of the Mona Lisa back in the 80's which concluded that the Mona Lisa was likely a self-portrait. Hence the enigmatic smile?

I've always been rather partial to that view.Edited 2007-10-07 20:01 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) Comments RE[5]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276702 http://osnews.com/thread?276702
Do you think that might be related to that analysis of the Mona Lisa back in the 80's which concluded that the Mona Lisa was likely a self-portrait. Hence the enigmatic smile?
I've always been rather partial to that view.


As a dyed in the wool heterosexual, I believe I'm not really qualified to make an appreciation on this subject.

:D Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (meianoite) Comments RE[6]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276716 http://osnews.com/thread?276716 """
As a dyed in the wool heterosexual, I believe I'm not really qualified to make an appreciation on this subject.
"""

While I happen to be gay, I don't happen to be transvestite or transexual. Sexual orientation, gender orientation, and taste in clothing are all pretty much orthogonal to one another.

Your opinion is as good as mine. ;-)

But I think that the real focus here should be upon understanding the mind of an artist. Good luck to us all on that point. ;-)Edited 2007-10-07 20:57 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) Comments RE[4]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276719 http://osnews.com/thread?276719 Actually, it would be sed -e s/M/G . Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (eosp) Comments RE[5]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276726 http://osnews.com/thread?276726
Actually, it would be sed -e s/M/G .


Hm??

Let's try with (*ahem*) MoneOS.

$ uname -a
FreeBSD ***** 6.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p4 #0: Thu Apr 26 17:40:53 UTC 2007 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
$ echo MoneOS | sed s/M/G/
GoneOS

$ uname -a
OpenBSD ***** 4.1 ****#0 amd64
$ echo MoneOS | sed s/M/G/
GoneOS

$ uname -a
Linux ***** 2.4.34.4 #3 Tue May 22 16:32:09 BRT 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
$ echo MoneOS | sed s/M/G/
GoneOS

$ uname -a
Linux ***** 2.6.8-24.10-smp #1 SMP Wed Dec 22 11:54:27 UTC 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
$ echo MoneOS | sed s/M/G/
GoneOS


I disabled remote SSH access to the HP-UX, Digital Unix and Solaris machines during the weekends, but I can try it tomorrow and report the results if you're still not convinced...


Edit: yay, disclosed one of the machine hostnames by accident.Edited 2007-10-07 21:32 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (meianoite) Comments RE[2]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?276913 http://osnews.com/thread?276913
Anyway, I wonder if people are able to name an operating system without the terrible ~OS suffix.


For example Symobi -> http://www.symobi.com/ Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (theteam) Comments RE[6]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?277056 http://osnews.com/thread?277056 You forgot to test with MonaOS. Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Joe User) Comments RE[2]: first post ? http://osnews.com/thread?277437 http://osnews.com/thread?277437 As a Latin-American Spanish native speaker: mona does not mean blond.

"Mona" is the female for "Mono" (monkey).

That word is sometimes used in phrases like: "Que mona es esa chica" ("That girl is cute").

So it seems to be used in the same way as in "European Spanish".

Just my 2 pesos. Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BiPolar) Comments