OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/18790/GNOME_2_20_1_Released Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:09:30 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com already http://osnews.com/thread?279203 http://osnews.com/thread?279203 seems awfully early to have an update Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lazywally) Comments RE: already http://osnews.com/thread?279206 http://osnews.com/thread?279206 well, they probably forgot the remove a feature scheduled for removal ;) Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Redeeman) Comments RE[2]: already http://osnews.com/thread?279209 http://osnews.com/thread?279209 No, they are following the KDE4 tagging fashion, where betas are alpha and alphas are mmm well, nothing. Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Manuma) Comments RE: already http://osnews.com/thread?279214 http://osnews.com/thread?279214 You'd be surprised about what they commit and then find out that the person who committed it didn't talk to the person in the first place. Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SlackerJack) Comments WTF? http://osnews.com/thread?279215 http://osnews.com/thread?279215 How can you fix something that is unknown? Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BluenoseJake) Comments RE[2]: already http://osnews.com/thread?279220 http://osnews.com/thread?279220 I like that. That was funny. ;) Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (apoclypse) Comments RE: WTF? http://osnews.com/thread?279221 http://osnews.com/thread?279221 they have superpowers, that's why GNOME rocks!!! Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Hiev) Comments RE: WTF? http://osnews.com/thread?279223 http://osnews.com/thread?279223 SQA doesn't cover all boundaries. There will be sequences that have yet to flush out latent bugs triggered by behaviors not tested.

It happens to all platforms.

The "unknown crashers" is a poor description of what it really means in this context. Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tyrione) Comments RE[2]: WTF? http://osnews.com/thread?279228 http://osnews.com/thread?279228 lol, even though I had my sarcasm detector switched on, I still found this funny. Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (raver31) Comments RE[3]: WTF? http://osnews.com/thread?279229 http://osnews.com/thread?279229 That's the point of sarcasm. Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Hiev) Comments RE[2]: WTF? http://osnews.com/thread?279232 http://osnews.com/thread?279232 I doubt any QA process will flush out all unknown bugs. Statements like that only raise expectations to unrealistic levels Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BluenoseJake) Comments RE: already http://osnews.com/thread?279242 http://osnews.com/thread?279242 http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyone Not it doesn't. This was put out > 6 months ago. Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SEJeff) Comments Did they fix FTP nautilus http://osnews.com/thread?279272 http://osnews.com/thread?279272 When the internet connection dies, it still continues instead of just moving on

Oh and cancelling an ftp transfer that died does not close it off

Gnome-Vfs-Daemon takes 35% of my cpu to transfer files in nautilus Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tweek) Comments RE: Did they fix FTP nautilus http://osnews.com/thread?279274 http://osnews.com/thread?279274 A lot of GnomeVFS' shortcomings are being addressed in GVFS, which is being rolled into GTK2.

I've only heard of one benchmark of the new code and it seemed to be pretty decent for an abstraction layer. I seem to recall that GVFS was ~15-20% slower than kernel-mount operations. But this was also a few months ago, so it could have gotten slower (more bloat) or faster (optimized code) in that time. Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (monodeldiablo) Comments RE[2]: Did they fix FTP nautilus http://osnews.com/thread?279275 http://osnews.com/thread?279275 That is good to hear. I use gnome as my main desktop, its just a few of those bugs i have noticed for a while. Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tweek) Comments RE: WTF? http://osnews.com/thread?279308 http://osnews.com/thread?279308 I recall at one point there being an update to Internet Explorer that said something similar.

"This update eliminates all previously addressed security vulnerabilities as well as any newly discovered vulnerabilities affecting Internet Explorer 6 on Windows XP. Download now to protect your computer from these vulnerabilities." Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (leech) Comments RE: WTF? http://osnews.com/thread?279312 http://osnews.com/thread?279312
How can you fix something that is unknown?


As Donald Rumsfeld(*) so poetically put it:
There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.

:)



(*): IMHO he (and everyone who took high positions in the government and the military of the U.S.A. for the last... hm, 70 years or so) is a dick. But what a funny quote ;) Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (meianoite) Comments RE[3]: WTF? http://osnews.com/thread?279320 http://osnews.com/thread?279320 Read on:

This release is a highly stable. Crashers should not be reported as
these only occur during the planned crash time.
Further, any problems in the actual release are to be blamed on the rest
of the release team not catching my errors. Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (stestagg) Comments RE[2]: WTF? http://osnews.com/thread?279321 http://osnews.com/thread?279321 Rumsfield didn't say anything new. What he said was a variation of Johari window.1) things known to all (public); 2) things known to you but not to others (secrets); 3) thinks known to others but not to you (individual unawareness); and 4) things unknown to all (collective unawareness) Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bandido55) Comments If you didn't get this http://osnews.com/thread?279376 http://osnews.com/thread?279376 Does any one know where to get the release notes of 2.20.1?Edited 2007-10-19 20:42 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fjleon) Comments RE: If you didn't get this http://osnews.com/thread?279466 http://osnews.com/thread?279466 Yes. But part of the GNOME philosophy is not to tell you - being a human, you might get overwhelmed with such information. Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (iangibson) Comments RE[2]: already http://osnews.com/thread?279562 http://osnews.com/thread?279562 "well, they probably forgot the remove a feature scheduled for removal ;) "

That's very lame and not funny, flaming software projects is really getting old.


"Yes. But part of the GNOME philosophy is not to tell you - being a human, you might get overwhelmed with such information."
Before you make such comments and simply assume things, please check your facts.
"YES, there changelogs"
There's a big changelog for each module and a NEWS file next to each module's source tarball.Edited 2007-10-21 15:10 Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hussam) Comments