OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/18810/Review_HTC_TyTN-II_Kaiser_ Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:36:06 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com screen http://osnews.com/thread?279986 http://osnews.com/thread?279986 the screen does not look very nice. maybe if the brightness was adjusted it would look better. Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (broken_symlink) Comments RE: screen http://osnews.com/thread?279987 http://osnews.com/thread?279987 The screen is fine, I always have brightness down to 25% for all my phones (including the iPhone btw). Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments Fantastic Phone. http://osnews.com/thread?279992 http://osnews.com/thread?279992 A couple of co-workers recently upgraded to this phone with AT&T who re-branded it to the, "AT&T Tilt." While the name may bring memories of old pin-ball machines this phone is incredible.

True, it has no (camera) flash like it's predecesors (AT&T 8125, etc.) it still has a lot to offer. Especially in the increased ROM and storage capacities.

The only minor setback noted by both people is that when the screen is tilted, the top row of the keyboard is partially blocked by the tilt action. But since both had the AT&T 8125 & 8525, thise didn't tilt, so they're used to typing w/o the screen tilt.

The screen is superb and the speed of the device is faster than the AT&T 8525 which has a 400MHz ARM CPU but runs Windows Mobile 5, not Windows Mobile 6.

When you pick it up and palm this device, it feels very sweet. Then the envy starts. Followed by the number-crunching.....

Kudos to HTC. Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Pelly) Comments RE: screen http://osnews.com/thread?279993 http://osnews.com/thread?279993 I've seen this ne device and the screen is quite nice and incredibly sharp.

To be fair, I don't think pictures provide the best representation of screens on mobile devices & phones. This is something you truly have to see in person to appreciate & be able judge for yourself. Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Pelly) Comments nice phone http://osnews.com/thread?280017 http://osnews.com/thread?280017 but $822?!?! Good lord. I could buy a car for that! ;) Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (helf) Comments 30-sec bootup?!? http://osnews.com/thread?280019 http://osnews.com/thread?280019 I dunno...I want what is theoretically possible with a smartphone, but I also don't like sluggish phones. 30 seconds to boot up? I just don't think I could tolerate it. Do you just avoid turning the thing completely off?

I also hear that there's no such thing as a smartphone that's a good *phone*. My g/f's Treo 600 is not (the Palm OS is nice, though I wish it had the Graffiti), and a couple friends with Crackberrys don't like the phones in them, either. I have Verizon now, and their premier offering (the Motorola Q9m) has limitations as well (some of which Verizon put in to rip off^H^H^H^H^H^H^H "add value for" its customers). My contract is up, though ;) Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (license_2_blather) Comments RE: 30-sec bootup?!? http://osnews.com/thread?280020 http://osnews.com/thread?280020 I don't turn off my phone, no, so the 30sec bootup is not a problem. When traveling, you can use Flight Mode. Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments How was the GUI? http://osnews.com/thread?280026 http://osnews.com/thread?280026 How was the GUI?

I use Nokia E61 and while I'm more than satisfied with the specs - the GUI really sucks compared to iPhone. And all the experiences with Windows Mobile platforms have been pretty much the same. Somehow, you just can't seem to get "into the system".

I don't want a bulky button to dominate my experience with the device. Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (greenie) Comments RE: How was the GUI? http://osnews.com/thread?280032 http://osnews.com/thread?280032 The GUI is the same as in all previous windows mobile phones I have reviewed. I can't write the same things over and over on all my articles. ;)

I personally like the UI of Windows Mobile touchscreen much better than all other touchscreen phones, except the iPhone which is the best. The non-touchscreen UI of Windows Mobile sucks. Symbian S60 is so-so. The worst touchscreen UI is UIQ's (even worse than Motorola's Linux). The best non-touchscreen UI is Sony Ericsson's.

So basically it all depends what you need:
If you want non-touchscreen and apps, you go with S60. If you don't want apps, you go with Sony Ericsson.
If you want touchscreen and apps, you go with Windows Mobile (which has better hardware feature than Palm phones).
If you want touchscreen and don't care about apps, go with the iPhone. Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments General issue with Windows Mobile(s) http://osnews.com/thread?280052 http://osnews.com/thread?280052 One omf my clients is using these for its field force. However, while Eugenia is correct in that the TyTN II is "Possibly the best Windows Mobile phone in the market today for the price" it severely lacks from one thing (as do the entire Windows Mobile family): resolution.

This is 2007 and 240x320 (or 320x240) doesn't cut it anymore. The low resolution severely negates the fact that "there are over 20,000 applications for that platform". Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DevL) Comments RE: General issue with Windows Mobile(s) http://osnews.com/thread?280055 http://osnews.com/thread?280055 You are totally right. You just NEED VGA. Surfing with QVGA, reading PDF in 320X200, yeah right.
I still love my gigantic HTC Universal.

And i hope all phones will run Linux very well soon. The HTCs are on a good way.
The ability for users to build their own custom distros for phones would just amazing. ( some people do it for windows mobile atm, but without control over the source i dont really see a bright future for that )
Lets hope the google phone will push mobile linux in every respect. Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kragil) Comments RE[2]: General issue with Windows Mobile(s) http://osnews.com/thread?280057 http://osnews.com/thread?280057 QVGA is a good resolution. What you need is web sites to be more intelligent about it, like OSNews.com is. Even the iPhone is not fantastic from your point of view at 320x480. I would much prefer 640x360 or 848x480 (16:9 480p). Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments RE[2]: How was the GUI? http://osnews.com/thread?280075 http://osnews.com/thread?280075
I personally like the UI of Windows Mobile touchscreen much better than all other touchscreen phones, except the iPhone which is the best. The non-touchscreen UI of Windows Mobile sucks. Symbian S60 is so-so. The worst touchscreen UI is UIQ's (even worse than Motorola's Linux). The best non-touchscreen UI is Sony Ericsson's.


Have you tried any recent Nokia S40 phones. If you have, how would you compare those to Soyn-Ericsson's? Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (_LH_) Comments Huge http://osnews.com/thread?280076 http://osnews.com/thread?280076 My coworker just bought one. Pretty nice device but HUGE (thick). I draw the line at something half that thickness. Would be useful by the local police for busting down the doors of criminals though.Edited 2007-10-23 10:51 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zetsurin) Comments Erm... http://osnews.com/thread?280078 http://osnews.com/thread?280078 "It is not as sweet as an iPhone"

Care to define 'sweet'? Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (PJBonoVox) Comments RE: Huge http://osnews.com/thread?280083 http://osnews.com/thread?280083 Ha? I say the phone is thick and someone chooses one of the top 3 options listed below:

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Go back to Digg.Edited 2007-10-23 11:44 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zetsurin) Comments RE[2]: Huge http://osnews.com/thread?280103 http://osnews.com/thread?280103 Well I did not mark you down, but saying it could be used to batter down doors is rhetoric and utterly silly. The depth of the device does add come heft to it, but unless you have very small hands I can not see this being an issue in handling it. The main drawback is it makes it less "pocketable." Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kokopelli) Comments But can you... http://osnews.com/thread?280115 http://osnews.com/thread?280115 Run linux on it? :-) Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hibridmatthias) Comments What about elegance? http://osnews.com/thread?280117 http://osnews.com/thread?280117 I seems that all the iPhone competitors make these rather bulky mechanical devices... and they all seem to run windows (ick)... I am forced to use it at work. I'd rather not have windows in my car, my phone, etc. How about a phone that looks as nice as the iPhone (sleek, sexy, large screen, easy to interact with), and runs Linux? Why not? It is doable. yet they all build these things. Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (vonschutter) Comments RE[3]: General issue with Windows Mobile(s) http://osnews.com/thread?280130 http://osnews.com/thread?280130 No, QVGA is not a good resolution even with adapted web sites. My Nokia N800 got what I consider to be a decent resolution of 800x480.

And the iPhone got Safari with "pinch -and-zoom" which somewhat compensate for the low resolution of 320x480.
Internet Explorer on Windows Mobile is laughable in comparison.

Actually, Internet Explorer on any platform is laughable in itself. Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DevL) Comments RE[4]: General issue with Windows Mobile(s) http://osnews.com/thread?280135 http://osnews.com/thread?280135 The difference is that you can run Opera Mini which does the zoom thing. On the iPhone you are stuck with Safari. Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments RE: Erm... http://osnews.com/thread?280136 http://osnews.com/thread?280136 The iPhone has a better UI. It just feels more to the point and clean. Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments RE[3]: Huge http://osnews.com/thread?280231 http://osnews.com/thread?280231 Meh, got a chuckle out of me (reminded me of Douglas Adams' line about the original Mac "portable": "It was great for eating sandwiches on, and slightly lighter than carrying around a table"). Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments