OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/19008/Sun_Announces_Open_Source_Community_Innovation_Awards_Program Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:13:45 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Hmmmmmm http://osnews.com/thread?288829 http://osnews.com/thread?288829 Will Sun be solvent long enough to pay the award money?Edited 2007-12-05 20:02 UTC Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tomcat) Comments In other words http://osnews.com/thread?288832 http://osnews.com/thread?288832 Their own products not the opensource community as a whole. I can see where this is leading, Sun seen as a opensource community company but only for their own software or OS, typical business strategy. Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SlackerJack) Comments RE: In other words http://osnews.com/thread?288843 http://osnews.com/thread?288843 What's wrong with that?

Google is doing the same thing with the Android contest.

Sun put a lot R&D and money into developing Java, OpenOffice, Glassfish, NetBeans, OpenSolaris, and OpenSparc, and they're giving that stuff away for free.

This, in hopes of generating more business opportunity for their hardware and services businesses, which seems to be working (they've returned to profitability after years of floundering after the dot com bust).

So why shouldn't they try to generate interest in their own open source initiatives, in order to help generate more business opportunity for themselves?

It's good for their business, and everyone else gets free access to great technologies.

Sounds like a win-win to me. Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JeffS) Comments RE[2]: In other words http://osnews.com/thread?288850 http://osnews.com/thread?288850 Because opensource is more than their products?, what about the other opensource software they use, google sponsor all opensource software projects not just their own. Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SlackerJack) Comments RE[3]: In other words http://osnews.com/thread?288860 http://osnews.com/thread?288860 read the charter for crying out loud:

...which will foster innovation and recognize some of the most interesting initiatives within Sun-sponsored open source communities worldwide.

of course they will donate money to causes that makes sense for them! Do you expect them to pay out grants to the mono project??? Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Matzon) Comments RE[3]: In other words http://osnews.com/thread?288878 http://osnews.com/thread?288878
Because opensource is more than their products?, what about the other opensource software they use, google sponsor all opensource software projects not just their own.


They already do that by paying their own employees to work on and contribute to open source projects such as GNOME, Apache, and others. Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (binarycrusader) Comments RE[4]: In other words http://osnews.com/thread?288883 http://osnews.com/thread?288883 """
of course they will donate money to causes that makes sense for them! Do you expect them to pay out grants to the mono project???
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It wouldn't be out of the question, no. It is certainly their prerogative to spend the money in strategic or political ways if they so desire. But as has been said, Google invests all around, since you never know what project might turn out to have unexpected value in future. Criteria based strictly upon merit would not be beyond the pale. Not at all. Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) Comments RE[4]: In other words http://osnews.com/thread?288925 http://osnews.com/thread?288925 ......
of course they will donate money to causes that makes sense for them! Do you expect them to pay out grants to the mono project???
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Mono is a opensource project like any other and if they use mono apps in open Solaris(Tomboy with GNOME) then yes I do. Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SlackerJack) Comments RE[5]: In other words http://osnews.com/thread?288926 http://osnews.com/thread?288926 They don't use mono projects in openSolaris, at least not as of the current Project Indiana Developer Preview. Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Moochman) Comments Damned if you do, damned if you dont http://osnews.com/thread?288935 http://osnews.com/thread?288935 I, and many others, thought that Sun starting to promote open source is a good initiative? That Sun open up all their high technology (ZFS, Dtrace, etc) is good?

Would you rather have Sun just like Microsoft? Closed and never willing to give away something for free?

I just dont get it. This is a bad initiative? Shouldnt you start somewhere small? All improvements in these projects will also benefit other open source code projects. Is this a bad thing? Imagine Microsoft doing this? Thu, 06 Dec 2007 12:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kebabbert) Comments RE[4]: In other words http://osnews.com/thread?288936 http://osnews.com/thread?288936 >They already do that by paying their own employees to work on and contribute to open source projects such as GNOME, Apache, and others.

Right. They also support FSF and FSFE.

Sun does a lot for the Free Software community both woth code and with money. Today sun is one of the largest (if not the largest) industrial contributer to Free Software.

Thank you Sun! Thu, 06 Dec 2007 12:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pinky) Comments RE[3]: In other words http://osnews.com/thread?288937 http://osnews.com/thread?288937 >google sponsor all opensource software projects not just their own.

They sponsor other free software projects because they can't sponsore their own projects because their own projects are non-free software (see google earth, google desktop search,...). *SCNR* Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pinky) Comments RE[4]: In other words http://osnews.com/thread?288941 http://osnews.com/thread?288941 I know. It is surely ironic that people criticize Sun about open source when it has open sourced its crown jewels (Java, Solaris) while holding up companies like Google and IBM as paragons of the Open Source way. Yet Google's own projects are non-open and IBM still keeps AIX under tight wraps. Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (evangs) Comments RE[3]: In other words http://osnews.com/thread?289077 http://osnews.com/thread?289077 Because opensource is more than their products?, what about the other opensource software they use, google sponsor all opensource software projects not just their own.

Your kidding right? Sun has open sourced Java, Solaris, OpenOffice ... what significant code technology has Google open sourced (the only thing I can think of is their Java page rendering library).

Honestly, Sun is doing a much better job then Google (by a large margin) in its support of open source. To suggest otherwise is ignorance or malice.

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]{ Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kristoph) Comments RE[4]: In other words http://osnews.com/thread?289349 http://osnews.com/thread?289349 Dont know about you but dont you see the thing with Sun here?, Solaris, Openoffice and their other products were just about dead. At least Google were and are opensource from the start. Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SlackerJack) Comments