OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/19219/Sources_Vista_SP1_Due_Out_in_Next_Few_Weeks Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:47:30 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Bit off-topic, but ... http://osnews.com/thread?297892 http://osnews.com/thread?297892 Any word on when XP SP3 is due out? Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (WorknMan) Comments What's the wait for? http://osnews.com/thread?297909 http://osnews.com/thread?297909 SP1 installed itself on my machine 2 nights ago. If it's a beta, it didn't let me know. Actually, I resisted installing it for a week or so, but the other day I ran a few errands, and when I got back, I was looking at the log-in screen. When I checked the Windows Update history, SP1 was there, along with a few other updates. Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lefty78312) Comments RE: What's the wait for? http://osnews.com/thread?297910 http://osnews.com/thread?297910
SP1 installed itself on my machine 2 nights ago. If it's a beta, it didn't let me know. Actually, I resisted installing it for a week or so, but the other day I ran a few errands, and when I got back, I was looking at the log-in screen. When I checked the Windows Update history, SP1 was there, along with a few other updates.


Have you messed with the Windows Update settings in any way or previously installed it? In addition, what version are you using?

I'm using a standard off-the-shelf version of Vista Business 32, and the only update I've got in a few days is an update to the Windows Mail junk mail filters (and the only reason I got that is because I haven't bothered to uninstall Windows Mail). Unless you're using a very different version of Vista than I am (corporate, maybe?), we should have almost identical updates... Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Almafeta) Comments RE[2]: What's the wait for? http://osnews.com/thread?297914 http://osnews.com/thread?297914 You'll probably find that he thought he was installing SP1 for Windows Vista, but it was SP1 for Office 2007 - given that updates for all Microsoft products can now be delivered through the one interface, that is what he most likely installed. Sat, 26 Jan 2008 01:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kaiwai) Comments Well, maybe this is Vista´s last chance http://osnews.com/thread?297915 http://osnews.com/thread?297915 Let´s see. This may be Vista´s last chance.

Here in Brazil Vista is being a HUGE fiasco! Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kicolobo) Comments win7 http://osnews.com/thread?297926 http://osnews.com/thread?297926 Windows 7 will be the real Vista fix!

Edit: I mean, hopefully :-)Edited 2008-01-26 09:00 UTC Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (evert) Comments RE: win7 http://osnews.com/thread?297940 http://osnews.com/thread?297940 I thought windows XP was the real fix for Windows 2K or was it Windows 2K was the real fix for NT or was it Windows ME was the real fix for Windows 98 or was it windows 98 was the real fix for windows 95 or was it Windows 95 was the real fix for Windows 3.1? I am really looking forward to Windows 7 will be the real Vista fix! ;-)Edited 2008-01-26 15:26 UTC Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (buff) Comments hopefully in SP2... http://osnews.com/thread?297959 http://osnews.com/thread?297959 They will fix the Mobile device center, I have never seen such a finicky crap shoot since activesync in xp, otherwise Ive been using sp1 for a couple weeks and its been pretty stable, definitly not groundbreaking, but it improves alot of the small annoyances I had with RTM. Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hollovoid) Comments RE[3]: What's the wait for? http://osnews.com/thread?297965 http://osnews.com/thread?297965 You'll probably find that he thought he was installing SP1 for Windows Vista, but it was SP1 for Office 2007

You mean it upgraded my copy of Office 2000 to 2007 and then installed SP1? In that case, the problem is twice as bad as I thought. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lefty78312) Comments RE: Whats the wait for? http://osnews.com/thread?297966 http://osnews.com/thread?297966 HAHAHAHAHA....hey..that was a GOOD one!!!!

I haven't laughed that hard in days...thanks for making
my day with that.... Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Bobmeister) Comments Vista SP1 http://osnews.com/thread?297967 http://osnews.com/thread?297967 Windows 2000, Windows XP and Windows 2003 are the only Windows editions Microsoft has done right. Pretty much all Windows editions based on the NT code base are rock solid except for Vista of course. I am looking forward to XP SP3 big time with all the security fixes. It will be one great OS.Edited 2008-01-27 03:52 UTC Sun, 27 Jan 2008 03:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (OSGuy) Comments Why it won't help http://osnews.com/thread?297968 http://osnews.com/thread?297968 Pushing SP1 is just like pushing Windows vista release.
This won't help make IT staff use it, because even though vista is more immune to infections than patched XP with SP2and IE7 and an Antivirus software, windows vista remains resource hog. And it interferes with productivity, add to that incompatiblity of some web sites with IE7 and alot of Applications incompatibility add to that the huge amount of money you need to pay to run vista smoothly, and also from administrative point of view alot of changes happened to the worse (deeply nested windows). And to turbid your day, the GUI is now even more severly confusing and things are not in the same places it used to be (eg: who said a visible menubar is a bad idea? why sould I press Alt to bring it back?!)
All of these factors makes switching to another platform is even acceptable. Like OSX with its very successful subversions that don't hurt but please its customers.
If MS doesn't do these, then Vista would fail:

1. Speed up the OS (turn off desktop composition, indexing or other demanding services that are unnecessary).
2. Improve compatiblity with applications.
3. Fix Its IE and Windows Explorer from Crashes and weired behaviors.
4. Check networking stack for more performance and bug fixes
5. improve startup time like they promised before.
6. remove the black screen behind UAC windows which scares alot of people; You can copy Apples method.
7. Fix Printers unexplained disconnections and wireless unexplained inconsistancies because these are very important to buisnesses.
8. Do other more and more and more things. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 07:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hraq) Comments RE: Why it won't help http://osnews.com/thread?297973 http://osnews.com/thread?297973 "1. Speed up the OS (turn off desktop composition, indexing or other demanding services that are unnecessary)."
You can already turn of desktop composition and it should make your computer faster not slower. It just uses a little more memory(60MB)
"2. Improve compatiblity with applications."
MS has probably done all it can do. It's now time for the application developers to make their own programs compatible with Vista.
"3. Fix Its IE and Windows Explorer from Crashes and weired behaviors."
Personally I haven't had any weird crashes with Explorer and who uses IE7 anyway? Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Fergy) Comments RE: Why it won't help http://osnews.com/thread?297983 http://osnews.com/thread?297983
If MS doesn't do these, then Vista would fail: 1. Speed up the OS (turn off desktop composition, indexing or other demanding services that are unnecessary).


desktop composition is here in order to have a free-glich redraw of windows and offers off-loading CPU and better responsiveness.
Indexing service runs in low I/O priority and so it doesn't affect the performances of other user's activities.


2. Improve compatiblity with applications.

Application should be compatible with the OS, not the OS with applications. And by the way, Microsoft fixed a lot of incompatibility of poorly written 3rd parties applications: in fact Vista has a built-in application compatibility database and service that is updated via Windows Update and this service adjusts the compatibility when an user installs or run a well known incompatible application.


3. Fix Its IE and Windows Explorer from Crashes and weired behaviors.

crashes are caused by poorly written 3rd parties browser extensions, poorly written 3rd parties shell extensions. It's not a Microsoft fault.


4. Check networking stack for more performance and bug fixes


my internet connection is faster in Vista than XP. Internet browsing is smoother in Vista than XP.


5. improve startup time like they promised before.


my Vista startup time is less than 60 seconds. There's nothing to improve. Use the hybrid sleep function and your system will start-up in less than 5 seconds!


6. remove the black screen behind UAC windows which scares alot of people


this is called secure desktop, it protects the authentication window from shatter attacks.Edited 2008-01-27 15:32 UTC Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (casuto) Comments Dream on dupes http://osnews.com/thread?297984 http://osnews.com/thread?297984 Any Windows and Spybot Search & Destroy , joined at the hip forever. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (LightRider) Comments Vista Business http://osnews.com/thread?298033 http://osnews.com/thread?298033 Does this SP1 apply to Vista Business, from what I have seen at work Vista Business from the Windows Sys Admin's does not work with the tools (Microsoft based) to perform daily job functions.

From the appearance factor it does have a nice look to it, but one of the guys I know he had to go back to XP Pro in order to use the system tools.

I was under the impression that these tools would be compatible since they were built by MS?

Does anyone know of any big corporations using Vista Business on the desktop? Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (RHCE07) Comments