OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/19221/Microsoft_Not_Planning_to_Release_Windows_7_in_2009 Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:05:26 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com I dont know. http://osnews.com/thread?297986 http://osnews.com/thread?297986 But i think if its prooven needed by microsoft to so, they will push a release of windows7 sooner rather than later.. well see eventually when vista catches up speed if they find it nessesary. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (judgen) Comments Confusing Headline http://osnews.com/thread?297987 http://osnews.com/thread?297987 The headline and the article text oppose each other. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (offler) Comments RE: Confusing Headline http://osnews.com/thread?297988 http://osnews.com/thread?297988
The headline and the article text oppose each other.


That was stupid. Fixed. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments Meh http://osnews.com/thread?297989 http://osnews.com/thread?297989 I don't buy it. Microsoft's motto now is - and should be - underpromise and over-deliver.

Also, announcing an upgrade next year would destroy non-OEM Vista sales now.

I would not surprise me at all to see a gold Windows 7 in late '09 with a Q1 '10 RTM.Edited 2008-01-27 16:38 UTC Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments Wrona approach http://osnews.com/thread?297993 http://osnews.com/thread?297993 As demonstrated by Linux and OS X, today operating systems are too complex beasts to develop 3-5 years behind closed doors. Incremental approach seems to be working better, and this problem is visible with Vista. It's just too much of new, untested and buggy stuff (and I won't even mention Vista's undelivered promises which will apparently come with the next, buggy & unfinished OS). Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (siki_miki) Comments Does this surprise anyone? http://osnews.com/thread?297997 http://osnews.com/thread?297997 They just managed to release Vista a little over a year ago after how many years of development? I think we need to start a pool. I call Dec 21st 2012. Any other takers? Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rjpotts) Comments And so it begins... http://osnews.com/thread?297998 http://osnews.com/thread?297998 What version of Mac OS X will be at when Windows 7 is release. 10.10? or OS 11 Now with 3d Displays. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (theTSF) Comments RE: Does this surprise anyone? http://osnews.com/thread?297999 http://osnews.com/thread?297999 I think we need to start a pool. I call Dec 21st 2012. Any other takers?

I like to use the 2X principle with MS. Basically any announcement of a new release is multiplied by 2 and you get the real release date. So, if they are saying it will be ready in 3 years then we have about 6 more years of Vista. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (buff) Comments RE: And so it begins... http://osnews.com/thread?298000 http://osnews.com/thread?298000 Mac OS X 11 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Mellin) Comments RE: Meh http://osnews.com/thread?298003 http://osnews.com/thread?298003 I wouldn't put any stock in articles about the date of Win7 delivery until it's imminent. Release dates are not so predictable early on and the forecasts are all quite confidential, especially at this stage. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (PlatformAgnostic) Comments RE: I dont know. http://osnews.com/thread?298004 http://osnews.com/thread?298004 Strategically, Microsoft should provide a broad view, to the media outlets, the goals and direction of Windows 7. They should not be proclaiming any feature list that later gets removed without giving a 6 month lead time to the media. They should learn from Longhorn.

They should disclose the goals for Vista that span the next 18 months and they should actually meet those goals.

People will have much more respect for them if they can meet their claims. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tyrione) Comments RE: Does this surprise anyone? http://osnews.com/thread?298005 http://osnews.com/thread?298005
I call Dec 21st 2012.


I really doubt Windows 7 will cause armageddon...

(Google the date if you don't get the reference.) Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Almafeta) Comments RE[2]: Meh http://osnews.com/thread?298012 http://osnews.com/thread?298012
Release dates are not so predictable early on and the forecasts are all quite confidential, especially at this stage.


The Magic 8 Ball works OK in the planning stages. But later, when more specificity is required, it's usually a good idea to move up to dice. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) Comments RE[2]: Does this surprise anyone? http://osnews.com/thread?298013 http://osnews.com/thread?298013 I dunno. If the US defense department decides to upgrade... Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Michael) Comments Do we really need another OS? http://osnews.com/thread?298014 http://osnews.com/thread?298014 I am quite serious here. I use XP and have to say it does everything I need.

The only real thing that I would need are drivers or support of devices that the future may hold. But from a GUI perspective and OS feature perspective I am pretty happy as is.

Sure I would like some new apps everything now and then, but that's not an OS issue. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (christianhgross) Comments RE: Meh http://osnews.com/thread?298016 http://osnews.com/thread?298016 Microsoft put too much into Vista to dump it so soon. It would be like admitting they'd screwed up. They have no choice but to back it whole-heartedly and pretend it's been a glorious success, while hastily patching the Dickens out of it.

Expect at least four years of life from this monster, though probably not much more than that. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Michael) Comments RE: Does this surprise anyone? http://osnews.com/thread?298018 http://osnews.com/thread?298018 Put me down for Q2/2011. Let's say, April 1st. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Michael) Comments RE[2]: Meh http://osnews.com/thread?298019 http://osnews.com/thread?298019
It would be like admitting they'd screwed up.


They already did. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments Perhaps they need a new release schedule? http://osnews.com/thread?298020 http://osnews.com/thread?298020 Seems to me all the other players are on a release often schedule. Perhaps that's why Windows is getting left behind so badly. Mac OSX releases major revisions yearly, and a lot of the Big Linux distributions release every 6 months.

Perhaps Microsoft needs to shift their development style to something similar releasing yearly builds that maintain decent compatibility for a much smaller price like $100 similar to Mac OSX. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Arakon) Comments RE[3]: Meh http://osnews.com/thread?298021 http://osnews.com/thread?298021 No... we're well off, so we have weekly consultations with Miss Cleo. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (PlatformAgnostic) Comments I don't care http://osnews.com/thread?298023 http://osnews.com/thread?298023 I will not be using any further versions of Windows.
Vista did enough damage to my confidence in Microsoft. I will not be using anything else from this company.

I will of course keep the XP partition on one machine, but other than that.... no thanks Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (raver31) Comments What a coincidence http://osnews.com/thread?298025 http://osnews.com/thread?298025 I wasn't planning on running it if they were. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (yakirz) Comments RE: Do we really need another OS? http://osnews.com/thread?298026 http://osnews.com/thread?298026
I am quite serious here. I use XP and have to say it does everything I need.

That's what they said about Win2000 when WinXP was released and started to nag its users with the activation procedure. Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (KugelKurt) Comments RE: Perhaps they need a new release schedule? http://osnews.com/thread?298027 http://osnews.com/thread?298027
Mac OSX releases major revisions yearly

Panther was released in October 2003, Tiger was released in April 2005, and Leopard was released in October 2007. That's hardly annual.

a lot of the Big Linux distributions release every 6 months.

Which one besides Ubuntu and Fedora? openSUSE? - No. PCLinuxOS? - No. Debian? Yeah, right... ;-) Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (KugelKurt) Comments RE[4]: Meh http://osnews.com/thread?298034 http://osnews.com/thread?298034
No... we're well off, so we have weekly consultations with Miss Cleo.


Pity she didn't go into computer science. We wouldn't have had to wait for ATI to open their specs. Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) Comments RE[2]: Perhaps they need a new release schedule? http://osnews.com/thread?298035 http://osnews.com/thread?298035
a lot of the Big Linux distributions release every 6 months.

Which one besides Ubuntu and Fedora? openSUSE? - No. PCLinuxOS? - No. Debian? Yeah, right... ;-)


Two out of five is still a lot... ;-Edited 2008-01-28 01:08 UTC Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (chemical_scum) Comments It's too bad... http://osnews.com/thread?298039 http://osnews.com/thread?298039 Microsoft really needed something to remedy the Vista situation. Let's just call a spade a spade shall we. Vista sucks. It sucks for too many reasons to list here. Some new blood is needed. Something built from scratch; something new and different. Something that will instill confidence in Microsoft and help to re-cement its position as a leader in IT technology. Vista sure as hell isn't that something. The longer Microsoft dallies trying to make something out of Vista, the worse it will be. Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (cmost) Comments dejavu http://osnews.com/thread?298073 http://osnews.com/thread?298073 And the whole circus repeats itself. Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (netpython) Comments RE[3]: Does this surprise anyone? http://osnews.com/thread?298118 http://osnews.com/thread?298118 /+1.
There goes my coffee ;)

- Gilboa Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gilboa) Comments RE: Perhaps they need a new release schedule? http://osnews.com/thread?298168 http://osnews.com/thread?298168 Perhaps -- but my experience has been the opposite. Most Windows users I have met, have been the most resistant to change of any user population. This is why you still see Windows 98 machines, sadly, in use. I don't think Microsoft users have been driven by the latest and greatest in a long time. I think we see some evidence of this now with people holding on to Windows XP with considerable resolve. Some Windows fans here on osnews.com may feel differently, but they are not typical Windows users.

Windows ME really soured users, more than anything else. Since then, people have been suspicious of Microsoft upgrades. I remember trying to sell people on Windows 2000 when it came out - as a consumer, home OS - and no one was interested, even though, despite not being marketed as such, it was a fantastic home desktop, once all the drivers were in place. Fortunately, a computer upgrade cycle forced a lot of people into Windows XP, which probably 9 out of 10 people (I'm guessing) consider Microsoft's best OS for desktop use.

I think people would rather see Windows XP patched, enhanced, and possibly skinned, than upgraded. We recently got a laptop here with Vista, and of course, being a reader of sites like this, I certainly had some expectations. Some fear and loathing, really, based on what I've read.

For me, Vista is not particularly crashy, but it is really, really heavy. I am really disheartened by the sluggishness on a dual core laptop with 2 gigs of RAM. I knew its requirements were heavy but this goes beyond absurd into surreal. Almost like something out of the movie Brazil.

I think, if anything, the people looking forward to a Microsoft release are going to be the ones stuck with Vista, who are having a similar experience as I am. It's going to be a long wait. I am hoping in the intervening years, the Apple or Linux world will become more attractive to people unhappy with Vista so we can have a more diverse OS ecosystem. Side by side, right now, KDE looks a lot better than Vista, in terms of snappiness. When something makes KDE look lean by comparison, you know there's a problem.

Right now, Microsoft is at its most vulnerable, in terms of owning consumer desktops. If there was ever a chance to kick over the monument to conformity than Microsoft is, it is now. Even those who don't hate Vista (I don't even hate it), tend to be fairly lukewarm about it.

Beyond this, I've dug through Vista's configuration dialogs and I cannot really find a single notable "wow" enhancement that counterbalances the problems I've had with it. The lack of vision here is astounding, even for Microsoft.

I am not so sure that XP users, however, are all that excited or obsessed about a new Windows, after hearing story after story of Vista's shortcomings. As an OS enthusiast, I am curious, and I hope Microsoft does a better job and innovates something worth copying.

Heh.Edited 2008-01-28 21:02 UTC Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Quag7) Comments