OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/19231/OSNews_Announces_Focus_Shift Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:34:20 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com As Kramer would say... http://osnews.com/thread?298390 http://osnews.com/thread?298390 Giddy up Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (samad) Comments Yes, Focus! http://osnews.com/thread?298392 http://osnews.com/thread?298392 I love the look of the site. Personally I would read it in frames a la 1998 for the quality of the discourse and reason. Plus the occasion flamewar & grammar crit let me laugh. The new look is proud without being elite. Verr Klean und Prrrrty
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Omnifocus
{{-groove-}} Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kaelodest) Comments Comment by twickline http://osnews.com/thread?298403 http://osnews.com/thread?298403 Humm.. Three cartoons a week, now if that isn't modern day innovation I don't know what is! May Dilbert be proud. ;) Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (twickline) Comments pretty look http://osnews.com/thread?298413 http://osnews.com/thread?298413 really nice look, guys.

But have new authors comic? ;-) Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (oldtulkas) Comments How about more UI-rants/reviews ? http://osnews.com/thread?298424 http://osnews.com/thread?298424 Personally I always read the UI-rants.

In the words of Daniel Quinn, it's not enough to say an OS is bad, "someone" needs to be constructive and provide "Another Story to Be In".

In the words of Malcolm Powell from his latest blog at teslamotors.com, "You’ve heard us say this many times but, “This isn’t easy”. Being the guy who’s done this sort of thing before, I’ve often warned my colleagues that this was going to be hard. If you think you know about cars because you’ve tinkered with them during the weekend, I can assure you that it is a whole new world when you design a new one and try to put it into production. Unfortunately, no one told me how hard this particular one was going to be."

Still looking forward to that UI-implementation which will be to OS what the now-50-state-legal Tesla promises to be for cars ! Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pg--az) Comments Sigh. You didn't give up. http://osnews.com/thread?298431 http://osnews.com/thread?298431 Seriously, your comics are terrible.
If other people like 'em, well, you're welcome to do them, but in my opinion you're not doing yourself a favour. You are great OSNews editor, why don't you focus on that instead of trying to be a comic author? Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (devurandom) Comments Focus Shift http://osnews.com/thread?298436 http://osnews.com/thread?298436
Focus Shift is supposed to lighten the tone on OSNews,


Oh, screw that, you turd. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) Comments RE: Focus Shift http://osnews.com/thread?298438 http://osnews.com/thread?298438
Oh, screw that, you turd.


See? It worked! I didn't even feel offended ;) . Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments RE: Sigh. You didn't give up. http://osnews.com/thread?298439 http://osnews.com/thread?298439 I believe it was Robert Love, kernel developer, who said that the best way to get a problem fixed right is to submit a bad patch to lkml which fixes the problem in the wrong way. This guarantees that someone else will jump on it and do the job right. Simply reporting the problem is less effective.

And if someone could refer me to that quote, I'd appreciate it. What I wrote above is highly paraphrased, severely limiting the effectiveness of Google searches. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) Comments RE[2]: Focus Shift http://osnews.com/thread?298440 http://osnews.com/thread?298440 ;-) Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) Comments RE: Sigh. You didn't give up. http://osnews.com/thread?298446 http://osnews.com/thread?298446 I don't think comments like this are constructive and I don't think they are well-purposed. Frankly, I think they're just rude. I signed up just a week or so ago, and I can't believe that people are so mean to each other here. If you don't like the comics, don't read them! Why you gotta come here and rant about it too? Get a life. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Gasss) Comments RE[2]: Sigh. You didn't give up. http://osnews.com/thread?298447 http://osnews.com/thread?298447 It's the reason we come here.. and if we all left osnews would receive about 100 hits a day from the holy people like yourself. ;) Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (twickline) Comments Not sure... http://osnews.com/thread?298448 http://osnews.com/thread?298448 Focus Shift is supposed to lighten the tone on OSNews,
Most of them seem to be very negative cartoons. More like political cartoons which are designed to make a point but not much in the terms of lighting things up. Dilbert, User Friendly, JoyofTech. do a good job at lighting things up. Lets use something wrong in government or IT and play with it to a funny end. Right now UserFriendly is poking fun at the Blackest substance that was just created in RPI a few weeks ago. There are a lot of light hearted ways to make a point. So far these comics are not really that funny or light hearted they just say the world sucks. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (theTSF) Comments RE: Not sure... http://osnews.com/thread?298449 http://osnews.com/thread?298449 You know, I greatly prefer Thom's comics to UserFriendly. Mainly because Thom is actually funny. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments Not fair... http://osnews.com/thread?298450 http://osnews.com/thread?298450 Not fair... I was about to use the name "FocusShift Software" for a company!

You said it: It's a catchy name!

(I was hoping to attract plenty of customers that way!)

;-P

Edit: spelling (not that is ok now but...).Edited 2008-01-30 12:27 UTC Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BiPolar) Comments comics and desktop widgets http://osnews.com/thread?298452 http://osnews.com/thread?298452 what is the opinion of osnews staff about syndicating/downloading/webscraping/whatever of the comics?
kde4 has a webcomic viewer plasmoid, but some webcomics can't be supported because their legal terms don't allow such things to be done.

now, i can't speak officially for the kde project, but can we support this comic? maybe wait until and if it will be under creative commons?
the idea i had and i think would be best for everyone was only to display the cropped version of the sidebar and by clicking on it it would open a browser on the proper osnews article.
i still had not checked how easily automatically parsable is it
oh and last thing of course won't do anything witout an explicit permission, don't want to upset anybody ;) Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mart) Comments RE: comics and desktop widgets http://osnews.com/thread?298453 http://osnews.com/thread?298453 Well, as I said, hotlinking (which this essentially is) is fine by me, but a link back to the comics page would be nice. I won't make a fuss of it if you don't, but hey, courtesy is a nice thing.

As soon as it's CC licensed, the images can be placed on other servers too (although I won't allow derivative works). I'll get my behind into the CC thing later today. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments RE[2]: comics and desktop widgets http://osnews.com/thread?298455 http://osnews.com/thread?298455 ok, can't promise when i will be able to start working on it, but there will definitely be a link to osnews page.
i see that there is an rss feed for it and this should make things quite easy Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mart) Comments ruining osnews http://osnews.com/thread?298457 http://osnews.com/thread?298457 Are the editors purposely trying to ruin OSNews? This used to be a great tech site. Now there is all this talk about videography and comic books. Just because the editor's hobby's have changed doesn't mean ours have.Edited 2008-01-30 13:31 UTC Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (abraxas) Comments These comics are awful http://osnews.com/thread?298458 http://osnews.com/thread?298458 Seriously, they're almost as bad as those Gearheads things that show up on Planet KDE once in awhile that are so bad I had to write an Adblock filter to keep from seeing them Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Misogynist) Comments RE: These comics are awful http://osnews.com/thread?298460 http://osnews.com/thread?298460
Seriously, they're almost as bad as those Gearheads things that show up on Planet KDE once in awhile that are so bad I had to write an Adblock filter to keep from seeing them


You know, the thing is... I don't really care. I can't please everyone. I'm not exactly known for my widely accepted and liked sense of humour (ask my friends), so I don't even have the illusion of being able to make cross-cultural comics work.

I just do what I do, and the positive reactions heavily outweigh the negative ones, meaning people actually do like it. On top of that, comics are not intended to make you 'rofl' - a small chuckle, or even a "hey, I never thought about it this way" fulfills its purpose. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments How are political stabs supposed to calm the masses? http://osnews.com/thread?298467 http://osnews.com/thread?298467 In all seriousness, if the intent of your "comics" are to "lighten" things up around here, then you should try to do so without attacking anyone's political views. While that view might be the "popular" thing to do, and you think it's cute, you know very well that it's just going to aggravate some of your readers. You're being intellectually dishonest by making the claim to "lighten" things up around here and put out things that attack readers' views and political beliefs. Frankly, that's just a good way to lose readers. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (OMRebel) Comments RE[2]: These comics are awful http://osnews.com/thread?298468 http://osnews.com/thread?298468
"Seriously, they're almost as bad as those Gearheads things that show up on Planet KDE once in awhile that are so bad I had to write an Adblock filter to keep from seeing them


You know, the thing is... I don't really care.

On top of that, comics are not intended to make you 'rofl' - a small chuckle, or even a "hey, I never thought about it this way" fulfills its purpose. "

Are they intended to p*ss of your readers as well, or is that just a part of you not caring? Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (OMRebel) Comments RE: How are political stabs supposed to calm the masses http://osnews.com/thread?298470 http://osnews.com/thread?298470
You're being intellectually dishonest by making the claim to "lighten" things up around here and put out things that attack readers' views and political beliefs. Frankly, that's just a good way to lose readers.


Like I said, I never said I can make cross-cultural comics work. I'm Dutch, and we have a rich tradition of ridiculising our politicians, leader, and our Royal Family. We Dutch have a very thick skin when it comes to these things, and seeing I am quite Dutch, this will shine through in the comics.

If you can't laugh about yourself, your ideas, and your opinions - well, your loss, really. I've made comics I myself thoroughly disagree with - the ability to take a few steps back from your own ideas and opinions is part of growing up. If you can't occasionally laugh about your own ideas, your own hypocrisy, you are taking life way too seriously. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments RE[2]: How are political stabs supposed to calm the mas http://osnews.com/thread?298473 http://osnews.com/thread?298473
"You're being intellectually dishonest by making the claim to "lighten" things up around here and put out things that attack readers' views and political beliefs. Frankly, that's just a good way to lose readers.


Like I said, I never said I can make cross-cultural comics work. I'm Dutch, and we have a rich tradition of ridiculising our politicians, leader, and our Royal Family. We Dutch have a very thick skin when it comes to these things, and seeing I am quite Dutch, this will shine through in the comics.

If you can't laugh about yourself, your ideas, and your opinions - well, your loss, really. I've made comics I myself thoroughly disagree with - the ability to take a few steps back from your own ideas and opinions is part of growing up. If you can't occasionally laugh about your own ideas, your own hypocrisy, you are taking life way too seriously. "

That all depends on the views expressed. It doesn't matter your nationality - you can be Dutch, Swede, Canadian, Brazilian, Ethiopian, etc... When you are constantly bombarded by stupidity over a subject in which reality is displaced by emotions of various tree hugging hippies, it gets very old after a while. There is no hypocrisy on my part at all, as my view has never changed. Perhaps the bigger problem isn't your "thick Dutch skin" but your inability to not interject your own bias, as well as a severe lack of originality by regurgitating items well past qualified as "ad nauseum", well, ad nauseum. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (OMRebel) Comments RE[3]: How are political stabs supposed to calm the mas http://osnews.com/thread?298477 http://osnews.com/thread?298477 Those comics are not political stabs, they are just light, dry, funny things (which is great). The Ad nauseam you talk about actually makes it lighter.

Really, if anybody considers these comics as political stabs, or gets even a little aggravated by them, they ought to let there blood pressure be checked.

Thom, your comics are great it all it's simpleness. Keep it up! Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (righard) Comments RE[4]: How are political stabs supposed to calm the mas http://osnews.com/thread?298479 http://osnews.com/thread?298479
Those comics are not political stabs, they are just light, dry, funny things (which is great). The Ad nauseam you talk about actually makes it lighter.

Really, if anybody considers these comics as political stabs, or gets even a little aggravated by them, they ought to let there blood pressure be checked.

Thom, your comics are great it all it's simpleness. Keep it up!


I was referring to the featuring the White House. You cannot seriously state that was not politically motivated and keep a straight face in the process. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (OMRebel) Comments Focus Shift is funny... http://osnews.com/thread?298484 http://osnews.com/thread?298484 I especially like the "GoBe buys BeOS" one. As far as any "political ones", I'm voting for either Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul. If neither are on the Primary ticket, by the time we vote in Feb., I either ain't voting or I'm going to "vote" for someone I know WON'T win.

Same for September/November Elections this year.

Anyhow, I think FocusShift is a fun idea... gotta add it to my Gene Catlow, FreeFall, Jack, Nip and Tuck, Kevin & Kell, Black Tapestries, etc. furry comics list...

I sure hope a FocusShift is witten about "The Luposian Bug", concerning Haiku. That'd be a riot... Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Luposian) Comments Not Worth Looking At http://osnews.com/thread?298509 http://osnews.com/thread?298509 The wit isn't strong enough for me to want to look at such poorly drawn images. There are a wealth of better drawn and funnier comics out there. At the very least you could pass it through a few GIMP filters to make the drawing crisper and look less washed out. Even better, pick up Inkscape and spend 5 minutes converting your idea into a clean format that has the various benefits that come with being SVG. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (FreeGamer) Comments RE[3]: How are political stabs supposed to calm the mas http://osnews.com/thread?298511 http://osnews.com/thread?298511
When you are constantly bombarded by stupidity over a subject in which reality is displaced by emotions of various tree hugging hippies


I feel bombarded by your stupid complaints about Thom's humor. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments RE[2]: Sigh. You didn't give up. http://osnews.com/thread?298512 http://osnews.com/thread?298512 I don't think comments like this are constructive and I don't think they are well-purposed. Frankly, I think they're just rude.

They are constructive. They are basically telling someone I esteem (Thom) to pursue his real talents instead of doing something he's (IMHO) not talented to do.

At least he should have to give the graphical part to someone that has a bit of drawing skills. Funny, badly drawn cartoon are somehow good. Unfunny, well drawn cartoons are bearable. Unfunny and badly drawn cartoon are just making my eyes screaming.

I can't believe that people are so mean to each other here. If you don't like the comics, don't read them! Why you gotta come here and rant about it too?

Because I like this site and I want it to be improved.
The comics idea is damn good. It's Thom drawing them the problem. If he can find someone qualified to draw comics for OSNews, it would be beautiful.

Get a life.

I have a good life, thanks. Heck, I even have a girlfriend, which for a OSNews geek is incredible! ;)

On a completely unrelated note: can I know what is the history for the green GIF you use as avatar? It's years I see it on the Internet, it's clearly a meme, but I don't know what it is or where is it born as a meme. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (devurandom) Comments RE[5]: How are political stabs supposed to calm the mas http://osnews.com/thread?298515 http://osnews.com/thread?298515
I was referring to the featuring the White House. You cannot seriously state that was not politically motivated and keep a straight face in the process.


Except... It's not the white house. I specifically chose Capitol Hill, since that would mean impartiality (could be either Democrats or Republicans, or both). Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments RE: Not Worth Looking At http://osnews.com/thread?298516 http://osnews.com/thread?298516
The wit isn't strong enough for me to want to look at such poorly drawn images. There are a wealth of better drawn and funnier comics out there. At the very least you could pass it through a few GIMP filters to make the drawing crisper and look less washed out. Even better, pick up Inkscape and spend 5 minutes converting your idea into a clean format that has the various benefits that come with being SVG.


So, you don't like the style, nor the humour. Great. Then don't read them, it's that simple. There are millions and millions of comics out there that I don't like, and you know what, I don't read them.

I want to keep the style as-is because that's what makes it unique. Sure, I can make these things in Illustrator (I have a tablet) but EVERYONE already does that. I want to do something different, something that's not been done before. And I have never seen such poorly drawn comics (let's face it) being liked by anyone - seeing the immense positive response (check the older story where I posed the idea first), I'm actually a little proud of myself.

You're free to not like them, of course. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments RE[3]: Sigh. You didn't give up. http://osnews.com/thread?298517 http://osnews.com/thread?298517
At least he should have to give the graphical part to someone that has a bit of drawing skills.


Why? So I can take away one of the unique things about Focus Shift? Should C&H hire proper artists to draw the people for them (since they obviously suck at it)? Would they still be as unique? Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments RE[4]: Sigh. You didn't give up. http://osnews.com/thread?298523 http://osnews.com/thread?298523
"At least he should have to give the graphical part to someone that has a bit of drawing skills.
Why? So I can take away one of the unique things about Focus Shift? Should C&H hire proper artists to draw the people for them (since they obviously suck at it)? Would they still be as unique? "

Actually, I think the limited drawing skill adds to the cartoon - it gives it a more abstract quality. This aids the more geeky message that is being conveyed. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fretinator) Comments RE: How are political stabs supposed to calm the masses http://osnews.com/thread?298527 http://osnews.com/thread?298527 Political stabs? I thought it is just political satire.

Also, most of our life is related to politics in one way or another, so there's no escaping politics. If you are not interested in political criticism, it is usually interpreted to mean that you are quite happy with things as they are, a supporter of the status quo.

Satire is polemic and often deals with things like politics that people strongly disagree with. Such things sometimes may need to be seen from a more humorous point of view too, because humor may broaden horizons, and also because otherwise the constant quarreling about such things may just give you headache... Especially the ability to sometimes laugh at oneself tends to make a person and also his opinions healthier.

It has been said that true democracy and freedom of speech needs political satire. There are laws that state if something really goes over the edge of the commonly approved ethics (and it is up to the politics to maybe improve those laws). Good taste or the correctness of satirical criticism is a matter of personal values and taste. You cannot force your "good taste" on others, it remains a matter of taste. Someone likes hip hop and cannot stand opera, another person prefers classical music and hates modern pop music.Edited 2008-01-30 20:04 UTC Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (irbis) Comments Insightful comment to follow... http://osnews.com/thread?298530 http://osnews.com/thread?298530 I really like the janitor anology in the cartoon. It is good to remember just how trivial some of the stuff we argue/banter/flame about. In this case, BEOS. I also think the same (to a lesser degree) about the TollTech acquisition by Nokia. To us geeks, QT vs. GTK+ is practically a religious issue. However, to the "real" business world, they are very tiny pieces of a very large pie. Most of the business world (the folks who spend that green stuff) really care very little about OS's or Programming Languages or Frameworks or whatever. So Nokia uses GTK+ for Maemo, and apparently the will start using QTopia for some new venture. To many that seems very strange - two such incompatable strategies. To them, it a phillips screwdriver vs. a slotted screwdriver. Whatever works.

Personally, I like arguing about it, though.

Keeps up the cartoons. I love them. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fretinator) Comments RE[3]: Sigh. You didn't give up. http://osnews.com/thread?298531 http://osnews.com/thread?298531 "can I know what is the history for the green GIF you use as avatar? It's years I see it on the Internet, it's clearly a meme, but I don't know what it is or where is it born as a meme."

I don't really know I stole it off someones profile on Myspace.com. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Gasss) Comments Some great work here http://osnews.com/thread?298539 http://osnews.com/thread?298539 I just wanted to say, kick ass work on the new layout, the old one was sort of lacking. Secondly, I do like the comic idea, keep up the great work! Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gerrynjr) Comments RE[3]: Sigh. You didn't give up. http://osnews.com/thread?298541 http://osnews.com/thread?298541
On a completely unrelated note: can I know what is the history for the green GIF you use as avatar? It's years I see it on the Internet, it's clearly a meme, but I don't know what it is or where is it born as a meme.


I think it's one of Andrew Bell's creatures.
See http://www.creaturesinmyhead.com/ Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wirespot) Comments RE[2]: Not Worth Looking At http://osnews.com/thread?298549 http://osnews.com/thread?298549 I'm just saying do yourself a favour and put a few extra minutes in to make them look better rather than just posting what are little more than a few seconds of hand drawn sketching. They would be better with a bit more effort.

My title "Not worth looking at" was a bit scathing; it detracted from the constructive element of my message. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (FreeGamer) Comments RE[2]: Sigh. You didn't give up. http://osnews.com/thread?298586 http://osnews.com/thread?298586 if this were slashdot or digg you'd get the 'you must be new here' obligatory comments even though you've stated you are quite new......

Compared to those sites, OSnews is almost Utopian. Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Nossie) Comments RE[3]: These comics are awful http://osnews.com/thread?298587 http://osnews.com/thread?298587 no it's just a part on the readers not being able to accept a joke.

If you cant laugh at yourself who can you laugh at? Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Nossie) Comments RE[4]: These comics are awful http://osnews.com/thread?298667 http://osnews.com/thread?298667 Everyone else ;) Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (aesiamun) Comments