OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/19256/_PHP_4_Is_Dead_-_Long_Live_PHP_5_ Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:26:08 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Twits in charge http://osnews.com/thread?298964 http://osnews.com/thread?298964 If the twits in charge would've just made it possible to have both PHP4 and PHP5 running in parallel this wouldn't be such a problem. Then we'd be able to migrate applications one at a time to the latest version. Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jfb3) Comments PHP is Dead http://osnews.com/thread?298969 http://osnews.com/thread?298969 Long live Ruby Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (asdx24) Comments RE: Twits in charge http://osnews.com/thread?298970 http://osnews.com/thread?298970 You _can_ have PHP4 and PHP5 running on the same server. I believe letting PHP4 die is a good thing. PHP5 has been around for years now and we can't waste the developers time with legacy stuff. But I don't believe PHP4 will die, because many are interested in it. Maintaining PHP4 and legacy PHP4 apps could lead up to some very interesting business opportunities for third party companies and developers. Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sodki) Comments migration http://osnews.com/thread?298994 http://osnews.com/thread?298994 Running both versions is imho unwanted. This makes people lazy for taking steps to migrate. It's known for more then one year that php4 will be ended this year.

We migrated all our customers to PHP 5 last year. And we gave customers one year time to migrate there scripts. And btw of the 15.000 customers of us only 50 people had problems with PHP 5. Mostly because they were using this *EXPERIMENTAL* dom-xml stuff. Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (handy) Comments PHP 6!!! http://osnews.com/thread?299001 http://osnews.com/thread?299001 If you look at what the PHP developers are talking about and developing activly at the moment, it's all about PHP 6. I think that a lot of PHP 4 people are going to move directly to PHP 6, and given the lack of stablity in the 5.x branch, I think this is probably a good thing for those people. Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (robinh) Comments RE: migration http://osnews.com/thread?299026 http://osnews.com/thread?299026 There's actually a lot of things they could have had trouble with in moving to PHP5. I imagine their scripts weren't very extensive.

I am just finishing moving my companies code to work with PHP5 from PHP4 (and with register_globals off... ;) ). It actually wasn't too damn. A few instances of domxml. Some issues with implementation of the __call method (it differs between 4 and 5 yet that isnt documented), nusoap (named soapclient), etc.

The real bitch was fixing the code to work with register_globals off (and error_reporting set to E_ALL for most of the code).

We're developing a new platform now though and it's going to be developed strictly on PHP5 with E_STRICT on. Thank god. Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sappyvcv) Comments RE[2]: Twits in charge http://osnews.com/thread?299097 http://osnews.com/thread?299097 Uhmm, no. You can have one as mod and the other as cgi. But not both mod (the way almost everyone runs php) at the same time. Thus, conversion is not as easy as it should be. (Or maybe not even possible.) Might there be some function available in one version that doesn't exist in the other, and then there are the associated performance issues.

Just think what would happen if Oracle or MS said "You can only have one DB engine active at a time.", I can tell you what would happen, no upgrades. Sun, 03 Feb 2008 02:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jfb3) Comments RE: PHP is Dead http://osnews.com/thread?299113 http://osnews.com/thread?299113
Long live Ruby


If you mean that in the sense that they said it to Napoleon on his return from Elba, then yes. Otherwise, I hope not. Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sigzero) Comments RE[3]: Twits in charge http://osnews.com/thread?299178 http://osnews.com/thread?299178 You can quite easily run both as fcgi. That is a better setup than running one as cgi and the other as mod. Running PHP as fcgi is, for multidomains, a better setup which gives you additional security possibilities that running PHP as a mod doesn't give and geee, is that needed or what. Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Chreo) Comments RE: PHP is Dead http://osnews.com/thread?299179 http://osnews.com/thread?299179 Ruby isn't even alive yet ;)

PHP is dead - long live PHP! Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dylansmrjones) Comments RE[2]: migration http://osnews.com/thread?299180 http://osnews.com/thread?299180 The good thing about this is all the work we get paid to do. First they paid us for writing systems in Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dylansmrjones) Comments