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			<description>Book(Point blank).<br />
Got me a nice overview over the object and messaging model.</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:28:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<author>donotreply@osnews.com (inetman)</author>
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			<description>I found that ebook fairly useless. I guess it's useful for people who are completely new to programming. If you are an utter novice at programming, starting with Objective-C is not the best idea. On the other hand, if you are a programmer and want to learn Objective-C and the Cocoa framework, that book is too shallow and the pace is too slow.<br />
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Just read up on the documentation on Apple's website and you'll get started in no time. <br />
Objective-C: <a href="http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ObjectiveC/Introduction/chapter_1_section_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Objective...</a> <br />
Cocoa: <a href="http://developer.apple.com/referencelibrary/GettingStarted/GS_Cocoa/index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30001088" rel="nofollow">http://developer.apple.com/referencelibrary/GettingStarted/GS_Cocoa...</a> <br />
Xcode: <a href="http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/XcodeUserGuide/Contents/Resources/en.lproj/00_00_intro/chapter_1_section_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/...</a> <br />
Interface Builder: <a href="http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/IBTips/IBTips.html" rel="nofollow">http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/...</a> <br />
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If you're willing to spend money on a book, a very good book I'd recommend is Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0321213149/bignerdranch-20" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0321213149/bignerdranch-20</a>)  and Advanced Mac OS X Programming (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0974078514/bignerdranch-20" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0974078514/bignerdranch-20</a>)</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:54:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<author>donotreply@osnews.com (evangs)</author>
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			<title>Good starter book</title>
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			<description>I think this is a pretty good book for starters and I hope the he continues to improve it. The more people we can get to develop on the Mac or iPhone the better. This will lead to more available software in the future.</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:45:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<author>donotreply@osnews.com (TownDrunk)</author>
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			<title>RE[2]: Great ...</title>
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			<description><div class="cquote">I found that ebook fairly useless. I guess it's useful for people who are completely new to programming. If you are an utter novice at programming, starting with Objective-C is not the best idea. On the other hand, if you are a programmer and want to learn Objective-C and the Cocoa framework, that book is too shallow and the pace is too slow.<br />
<br />
Just read up on the documentation on Apple's website and you'll get started in no time. <br />
Objective-C: <a href="http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ObjectiveC/Introduction/chapter_1_section_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Objective...</a>  <br />
Cocoa: <a href="http://developer.apple.com/referencelibrary/GettingStarted/GS_Cocoa/index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30001088" rel="nofollow">http://developer.apple.com/referencelibrary/GettingStarted/GS_Cocoa...</a>  <br />
Xcode: <a href="http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/XcodeUserGuide/Contents/Resources/en.lproj/00_00_intro/chapter_1_section_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/...</a>  <br />
Interface Builder: <a href="http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/IBTips/IBTips.html" rel="nofollow">http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/...</a>  <br />
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If you're willing to spend money on a book, a very good book I'd recommend is Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0321213149/bignerdranch-20" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0321213149/bignerdranch-20</a>)   and Advanced Mac OS X Programming (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0974078514/bignerdranch-20" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0974078514/bignerdranch-20</a>)   </div><br />
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And if you are on Linux and haven't yet added OS X, buy Stephen Kochan's Book, ``Programming in Objective-C.''<br />
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<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Objective-C-Developers-Library-Stephen/dp/0672325861/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1206640270&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Objective-C-Developers-Library-St...</a></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:51:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description>I found the book quite useful if you look at it froma novice perspective. I don't see a reason why a objective-c would be an issue if you are a beginner, most people started with just plain c, with no garbage collection. <br />
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I think the book does what it does well, which is to start a novice programmer off on the path to programming for their favorite platform.</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:54:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>RE[2]: Great ...</title>
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			<description>Many thanks for your recommendations.<br />
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I just liked the book as a short introduction into Objective-C, in case of learning OS X programming I'll do it as probably the most people do it: Understand the basics and start hacking, using every help google will find for me ;-)<br />
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I used to read the Apple guide to Objective-C and was coding their Currency Converter example but it didn't helped me a lot since the &quot;[&quot;- brackets drove me crazy. <br />
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The beginner orientated explaination of the object / messaging model made me understand this after the first read.<br />
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And for this reason: Great book (for me ^^)<br />
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[brain learnStuff:@&quot;Objective-C&quot;] ;-P</description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:12:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<author>donotreply@osnews.com (inetman)</author>
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