OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/19879/Firefox_3_Download_Day_Cripples_Mozilla_Site Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:43:17 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Bug already! http://osnews.com/thread?318945 http://osnews.com/thread?318945 Seems I ran into a bug already, firefox immediatly found an update... v2.x? (after a fresh install of 3.0) and it auto installed when I closed and re opened firefox, promptly crashing afterwards. Other than that after a quick re install of 3.0 its working great so far, good job!Edited 2008-06-18 15:14 UTC Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hollovoid) Comments No surprise there then http://osnews.com/thread?318946 http://osnews.com/thread?318946 This accords with my experience; and I wasn't surprised.

What did surprise me was trying again, a few hours later, and getting a full bore download. For that they get my respect.

The switch to FF3 is a good moment to revisit the add-ons; many of which are excellent.

It works well and looks good - excellent production and a big thank you to the developers and helpers.Edited 2008-06-18 15:11 UTC Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ameasures) Comments timing http://osnews.com/thread?318948 http://osnews.com/thread?318948 When did the download day actually start ?
They get an accurate count of the downloads that have started and completed, but how can we believe any figures that they put out ? Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (raver31) Comments Sabotage. http://osnews.com/thread?318956 http://osnews.com/thread?318956 Must be a Microsoft sabotage!!

Heh. Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gan17) Comments Comment by kittynipples http://osnews.com/thread?318960 http://osnews.com/thread?318960 These "world records" that consist of nothing more than large numbers of people performing a single innocuous action are pointless and are just sad attempts at publicity. All the people who care will download it regardless. Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kittynipples) Comments no problems http://osnews.com/thread?318966 http://osnews.com/thread?318966 fast download and easy to update Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Mellin) Comments RE: timing http://osnews.com/thread?318977 http://osnews.com/thread?318977
When did the download day actually start ?

Download day started 1 PM ET/10 AM PT.

They get an accurate count of the downloads that have started and completed, but how can we believe any figures that they put out ?


How can we believe the figures Microsoft pulls out for sales of Office? Windows? You think they account for any of the 'Windows Refunds' in those numbers? Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TemporalBeing) Comments RE[2]: timing http://osnews.com/thread?318984 http://osnews.com/thread?318984

How can we believe the figures Microsoft pulls out for sales of Office? Windows? You think they account for any of the 'Windows Refunds' in those numbers?


You make it sound as if Windows refunds are a common occurrence? The majority of computer users just use their computers. The ones who are aware of an OS other than Windows will usually build their own machine anyway. Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (evangs) Comments RE[2]: timing http://osnews.com/thread?319003 http://osnews.com/thread?319003
How can we believe the figures Microsoft pulls out for sales of Office? Windows?


Easy. Microsoft must publish its financial details, including sales figures, as it is a public trading company. It can't lie about its sales figures, as that would certainly result in a massive fine and justice investigation. It's illegal to do so, you see.

Few companies are that stupid. Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments RE[3]: timing http://osnews.com/thread?319038 http://osnews.com/thread?319038 Yeah, but Sales vs. Ownership of Microsoft products is what we can't really judge, especially since Microsoft doesn't make many sales that are direct to the customer, they make all there money from selling to distributors.

And not everyone who uses alternative OSs build their own machines, or may even want to. A lot of times you're in a bind and need a quick box, so you just order an eMachine, Dell, HP etc.

Too bad that silly rule about requiring the major computer manufacturers to sell a PC with an operating System, although at least Dell for awhile was selling PCs with just FreeDOS. Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (leech) Comments RE[4]: timing http://osnews.com/thread?319068 http://osnews.com/thread?319068
Yeah, but Sales vs. Ownership of Microsoft products is what we can't really judge, especially since Microsoft doesn't make many sales that are direct to the customer, they make all there money from selling to distributors.


Er, no. They make the bulk of their money from license and contract sales to commercial customers. Everything else, including OEM licensing for consumer systems, is just icing.

And not everyone who uses alternative OSs build their own machines, or may even want to. A lot of times you're in a bind and need a quick box, so you just order an eMachine, Dell, HP etc.

Too bad that silly rule about requiring the major computer manufacturers to sell a PC with an operating System, although at least Dell for awhile was selling PCs with just FreeDOS.


What silly rules? If you've got an issue, take it up with the manufacturer you're buying from. Very few jurisdictions require an OS to be sold with a new PC, certainly none in North America or the EU.

Windows dominates OEM PCs because customers expect Windows on their PCs. That's all. It's up to the manufacturers, and the alternative OS vendors (if so inclined), to break that mindset. You're kidding yourself if you think that, at least at this point in time, there is a significant market for systems that don't have Windows pre-installed. Certainly Asus and others are starting to make strides in an area Microsoft completely unanticipated, but let's keep things in context.

I'm not an MS apologist by any means, but let's keep the arguments rational. Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (elsewhere) Comments