http://www.osnews.com/story/19897/VmwAROS_0_8_Beta_Released Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2010, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:55:07 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?319517 http://osnews.com/thread?319517 IMHO VirtualBox is the better solution for open source projects.

Since 1.6 I don`t miss VMserver one tiny bit. Especially on Windows Vbox is way faster and less resource hungry.

And on Linux Vbox is in most repositories by now.

What possible argument is still left to use VMware besides inertia?? Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kragil) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?319518 http://osnews.com/thread?319518 VMWare is faster and tends to be more compatible, and the VMWare video device is well documented and the X.org driver is small and easily ported if you're an OS author. Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Vanders) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?319520 http://osnews.com/thread?319520 Well, one can say the same of Qemu, as it's pretty portable, and runs great on all kinds of platforms...

As for VMWare, people like it because they released how to write the mouse/video seamless drivers... Unlike Connectex VirtualPC (which was later bought by Microsoft)..

I know VMWare has a "soft spot" for a lot of people, probably because they parallel netscape. However they are being attacked on all fronts, and will ultimatly suffer the same fate.

I mean just look at the Windows/Linux desktop offering price, then look at the OS X desktop offering. It's hard to justify the $300+ for Windows/Linux with NO 3d accel, but the MacOS version for $55 has it. Like WTF??

Sure VMWare player is free, but remember when it was a 20mb download? What is it now? 200+MB? Hell even MS Virtual server 2005 r2 sp1 is only 40mb! Qemu with the mingw enviroment is around 30mb!

And even in the server space, looking at the 2008 server hypervisor, I'll probably be moving away from VMWare ESX.. It's just too expensive!! It reminds me of when we used to run the Netscape web server.. Apache/IIS certainly killed that turkey off! Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (neozeed) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?319522 http://osnews.com/thread?319522 I have Windows XP running in a VMware environment on a Linux host. I tried to run it under Virtual Box a while ago, but it wouldn't boot. Since it's the ONLY Windows I have anymore, I must retain and use VMware.

Like many, I would love to get rid of all non-free software, including VMware (and especially Windows). But pragmatism wins out in some cases. Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (KenJackson) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?319525 http://osnews.com/thread?319525 Kragil: and what prevents you from booting VmwAROS LIVE! on VirtualBox or Qemu, and installing it as it was on a real PC? The emergency mode kernel should work: if it doesn't work... well, you have the answer to "why people still prefers VMware": because it works as expected. Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (paolone) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?319534 http://osnews.com/thread?319534 Personally,the only thing that keeps me using vmware is that their USB support the BlackBerry. I see VirtualBox is as 1.6.x now though so maybe that has changed. Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?319535 http://osnews.com/thread?319535 I have run Windows XP on multiple versions of VirtualBox and it has never been a problem (aside from the BlackBerry USB not working). It's just as fast as in VMare.
I honestly dont see how you can fail getting it to work. Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?319541 http://osnews.com/thread?319541 Did you install it new in Virtual Box or run an existing VMware .vmdk file? I tried to do the latter.

If I try to install it new, I think that would be akin to installing an existing license on new hardware, which would violate the evil license terms. Even if not, it would require [I forget what you call it when you get Microsoft's blessing on an initial install], which I doubt Microsoft would agree to.

I didn't work very hard to solve the problem because it works well enough the way it is.

If others are trying to solve this, I just noticed a note on the Virtual Box wiki that discusses a problem with Windows memorizing IDE/ATA controllers. That may be the problem, and they offer a solution here: http://virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (KenJackson) Comments