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OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/19981/Gentoo_Linux_2008_0_Released Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:42:51 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Obligatory comment http://osnews.com/thread?321659 http://osnews.com/thread?321659 Damn! I just finished compiling 2007.0!!

Ha ha yeah I know you can get the latest packages even if you start installing from 2007.0 CD. ;o).

p.s. Congratulations to Gentoo team. Still the most configurable linux distro around for people that need *complete* control over their system. Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (siimo) Comments Comment by zizban http://osnews.com/thread?321660 http://osnews.com/thread?321660 The code name is a reference to the movie Idiocracy. See it if you haven't. Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zizban) Comments RE: Comment by zizban http://osnews.com/thread?321663 http://osnews.com/thread?321663 Brawndo's got what plant's crave! Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (aesiamun) Comments "It's got what plants crave," http://osnews.com/thread?321679 http://osnews.com/thread?321679 Manure? Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (evangs) Comments RE[2]: Comment by zizban http://osnews.com/thread?321692 http://osnews.com/thread?321692 In other news, gentoo will also now have a new video blog, codenamed "Ow my nuts!"

Congrats on the release, will be switching profile over when I get home, then its hours of text scrolling to go

Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hollovoid) Comments Comment by makkus http://osnews.com/thread?321697 http://osnews.com/thread?321697 I'm glad they released 2008.0. I used gentoo on my desktops and laptops from aug 2002 till december 2008 when I got my new laptop (Lenovo T61p) and switched to Fedora.

The half year before that Gentoo felt very broken and I just wanted to have a working situation that lasted longer then two weeks.

It still saddens me I had to switch...Edited 2008-07-07 09:06 UTC Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (makkus) Comments Comment by LB06 http://osnews.com/thread?321698 http://osnews.com/thread?321698

In the interest of getting the release out, the release engineering team decided to postpone LiveDVDs because of problems in their generation. They may show up laterâ"if so, we'll let you know.

Huh? Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (LB06) Comments Comment by petrasl http://osnews.com/thread?321703 http://osnews.com/thread?321703 Updated packages: Highlights of the 2008.0 release include kernel 2.6.24, gcc 4.1.2 and glibc 2.6.1.

maybe updated ; but not so up to date Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (petrasl) Comments RE: Comment by makkus http://osnews.com/thread?321705 http://osnews.com/thread?321705 I don't know how you could've used Gentoo that long without realizing that the only real differences between versions is the installation. Versions are meaningless when installed. Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JMcCarthy) Comments RE: Comment by makkus http://osnews.com/thread?321709 http://osnews.com/thread?321709 You might want to try Arch Linux.

It's not as automatic as Fedora/Ubuntu/SuSE/etc... but it's not as complicated to install as Gentoo.

It has precompiled packages optimized for i686, but can also rebuild your whole system(or parts of it) if you wish.

There is also a x86-64 port, not sure of how complete this one is yet. Haven't tested it.

Despite being a "geek-distro" I(coming from a Ubuntu-background) found my around it using the beginners guide very easily.

Recommended.

More info here: http://archlinux.org/
Compared to other distros: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_vs_Others#Arch_vs_Gentoo Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TLZ_) Comments RE: Comment by zizban http://osnews.com/thread?321713 http://osnews.com/thread?321713 In the end he realized that it was easier convincing the people that he could talk to the plants and that the plants had told him that they wanted water. Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (FunkyELF) Comments Comment by FunkyELF http://osnews.com/thread?321715 http://osnews.com/thread?321715 Congrats. Although, I like to use Sabayon for installing Gentoo. It takes a little longer to boot up but its nice having a more complete environment to install from.

Having new install CDs is pretty meaningless with Gentoo. The real news here is that the 2008 profile is available which I have been using for quite some time now anyway.

I installed a 2007 profile on my laptop and it didn't work out so nice. Someone recommended to me to use 2008 since I was using amd64. It seems cleaner and things just work. Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (FunkyELF) Comments RE: Comment by petrasl http://osnews.com/thread?321725 http://osnews.com/thread?321725 Those are "stable" version. It is like debian, stable package are not so up to date. If you enable keywords (~x86 or ~amd64) you get gcc 4.3.1, kernel 2.6.26-rc8 and packages like that. If you disable hardmask, you get even more cutting edge stuff. Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Elv13) Comments RE: Comment by makkus http://osnews.com/thread?321726 http://osnews.com/thread?321726

I'm glad they released 2008.0. I used gentoo on my desktops and laptops from aug 2002 till december 2008 when I got my new laptop (Lenovo T61p) and switched to Fedora.

The half year before that Gentoo felt very broken and I just wanted to have a working situation that lasted longer then two weeks.

It still saddens me I had to switch...

I'm not sure what you were doing, but I use Gentoo as my primary OS on all 3 machines I work on (home desktop, Work desktop, laptop), and none of them feel "very broken" every two weeks. Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dbodner) Comments RE: Comment by FunkyELF http://osnews.com/thread?321735 http://osnews.com/thread?321735 The real news is not the livecd nor the new profile. You can install gentoo with almost any livecd. The new release was needed in order to start building your gentoo from an updated environment: using a stage3 with expat-1 (just to name one) was a PITA due to ABI breakage with expat-2.Edited 2008-07-07 16:25 UTC Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lavish) Comments Kudos Gentoo!! http://osnews.com/thread?321748 http://osnews.com/thread?321748 When I moved from the Win world to the Linux side, I tested a lot of distros:

RedHat, Fedora, Suse, openSuse, Debian, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Slack, Gentoo... and I am still in Gentoo after several years...

Gentoo is a very nice Linux and its Portage is (IMHO) the best package/software management tool available today.

Kudos for the really really good work!! Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ebasconp) Comments RE[2]: Comment by FunkyELF http://osnews.com/thread?321764 http://osnews.com/thread?321764 I usually only install x86 or amd64 arches so for that you can use drobbins stages [1]. New ones are released quite often.

[1] http://www.funtoo.org/linux/Edited 2008-07-07 19:01 UTC Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thor) Comments RE: Kudos Gentoo!! http://osnews.com/thread?321834 http://osnews.com/thread?321834

Gentoo is a very nice Linux and its Portage is (IMHO) the best package/software management tool available today.

Gentoo's Portage seems to be inspired by FreeBSD's Ports Collection (I'm not sure what came first, but doesn't matter anyway) - it makes handling additional software installation very easy and you can dicide on different levels how "up to date" (read: cutting-edge, devlopment versions, not tested enough) you like your software. Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Doc Pain) Comments RE[2]: Kudos Gentoo!! http://osnews.com/thread?321839 http://osnews.com/thread?321839 Gentoo's Portage was "inspired" by BSD's ports. The power of this system has kept me on gentoo for years. The package management on distros isnt that bad, it just doesnt seem right after been using gentoo for so long.. I love being able to "turn on" any feature I want and know the system is usually smart enough to figure out the dependancies. Whereas Fedora (which I do like quite a bit) I remember having to grab this devel package, then break it out, change this file, comment out line 250, download something else, and hope it all works in the end. Gentoo may seem harder, but when you want something your way, you usually get it. Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hollovoid) Comments RE: Comment by makkus http://osnews.com/thread?321843 http://osnews.com/thread?321843 "I'm glad they released 2008.0. I used gentoo on my desktops and laptops from aug 2002 till december 2008 when I got my new laptop (Lenovo T61p) and switched to Fedora.

The half year before that Gentoo felt very broken and I just wanted to have a working situation that lasted longer then two weeks."

So you are saying Gentoo is broken now? December 2008 has not arrived yet....

Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DrillSgt) Comments Gentoo vs. others http://osnews.com/thread?321978 http://osnews.com/thread?321978 I was excited by Gentoo because I'm a long time UNIX guy. I remember reading about Jolits port of BSD to the i386 and firing up PCs running 386BSD and the crufty per 1.0 versions of Linux. I'm used to getting down and dirty with source code.

After a week of installing Gentoo on an old PC I still had multiple things that didn't quite work right. I fixed a few of the problems but there were still a few more things that just weren't quite right. I'm sure I could have fixed them but I asked myself why I was going through all of this when there were so many distros that install in an hour and generally everything works on the first try.

Philosophically I like the idea of a source distro that builds and optimizes itself for your specific hardware but I decided this approach was more bother than it was worth. I tried Vector Linux and was super impressed. It seemed just as fast as Gentoo (Gentoo might have been faster with a stopwatch but Vector felt just as fast). Bit everything just worked with no tinkering. Since it has been a while I'll probably try Gentoo again. Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Al Dente) Comments