OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/20010/Linux_Based_Smartphone_FreeRunner Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:57:26 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Hopefully this will... http://osnews.com/thread?322158 http://osnews.com/thread?322158 Hopefully this will push the GTK developers to improve their toolkit. Like the article says, GTK lacks big time. GTK 3 is suppose to solve all that with major changes. I am a big fan of GTK and GNOME, but I admit, the toolkit is inferior when compared to QT. Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tuaris) Comments Ruby and Qt http://osnews.com/thread?322166 http://osnews.com/thread?322166 Set those puppies up and Ill be ready to rip on that puppy...I have 10 ready-made pharmacy apps and 2 role playing game apps just dying to get on another mobile device. Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hibridmatthias) Comments RE: Ruby and Qt http://osnews.com/thread?322172 http://osnews.com/thread?322172
Set those puppies up and Ill be ready to rip on that puppy...I have 10 ready-made pharmacy apps and 2 role playing game apps just dying to get on another mobile device.


I assume the pharmacy apps and the role-playing apps are meant to be used together. ;} Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fretinator) Comments "still incomplete" http://osnews.com/thread?322173 http://osnews.com/thread?322173 What exactly does this mean? -> "FreeRunner's software platform is still incomplete" Which "awwe crap" is going to get me? Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (EmptiusBranius) Comments Maybe decent hardware, but: http://osnews.com/thread?322183 http://osnews.com/thread?322183 what's it worth when the software stack is still lacking the most basic features of a mobile phone? The phone (GTA02) is marketed for "developers", its predecessor GTA01 was marketed for "hardcore developers". What does that mean? It means it's still not ready for the end user. It may be a geekish thing to have, but it's NOT a reliable mobile phone.

So it's great to have an incomplete open source mobile phone, but it's not ready for prime time. If it were I'd buy one instantly. Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (deb2006) Comments RE[2]: Ruby and Qt http://osnews.com/thread?322184 http://osnews.com/thread?322184 I dont think I can post that stuff here for fear of our government being allowed to spy on me and track me with impunity
Gotta love Bush and his limiting of personal liberties
:-) Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hibridmatthias) Comments Freerunner Qtopia http://osnews.com/thread?322188 http://osnews.com/thread?322188 You can make your Freerunner more stable and complete by using Qtopia by Trolltech, a Nokia Company on it. Available from http://qtopia.net Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lpotter) Comments RE: Freerunner Qtopia http://osnews.com/thread?322191 http://osnews.com/thread?322191
You can make your Freerunner more stable and complete by using Qtopia by Trolltech, a Nokia Company on it. Available from http://qtopia.net

You know it already runs qtopia. Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (m_abs) Comments RE: Maybe decent hardware, but: http://osnews.com/thread?322202 http://osnews.com/thread?322202 and from what i understand, its the press, not the company, that have been claiming that the new model is aimed at joe average user... Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hobgoblin) Comments aimed at a phone developer? http://osnews.com/thread?322227 http://osnews.com/thread?322227 Is it gunning to be picked up by other phone makers then? Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (matthekc) Comments RE[2]: Maybe decent hardware, but: http://osnews.com/thread?322269 http://osnews.com/thread?322269 The Neo Freerunner present software is suitable for advanced users and devs, but the intent for Freerunner is general consumer.

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner
The FreeRunner can be purchased from the Online Store as of July 3, 2008. Software available on the phone suitable for advanced users and developers but not the average consumer.

The Neo FreeRunner is a Linux-based touch screen smart phone aimed at general consumer use as well as Linux desktop users and software developers.
Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (olefiver) Comments RE[3]: Maybe decent hardware, but: http://osnews.com/thread?322283 http://osnews.com/thread?322283 Ok, but what does it MEAN:
- can I make a phone call?
- can I send SMS?

Hardware is one thing - it's just useless if the software stack is still lacking the most basic features. Don't get me wrong: I'd love to play with the Freerunner. I just cannot afford an expensive toy that isn't able to do the most basic things one expects from such a device. Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (deb2006) Comments RE[4]: Maybe decent hardware, but: http://osnews.com/thread?322304 http://osnews.com/thread?322304
- can I make a phone call?
yes
- can I send SMS?
yes

I'm buying the Neo Freerunner, together with 9 others, and one in the group was at a "install party" in Oslo a few days ago with some other group which already have gotten their phones.
They did some testing and this is what works with basic image:
- make and receive phone calls
- send and receive sms
- wifi works after some small tweak(s)
- nett on PC via the Freerunner (usb)

They didn't get a fix on GPS, but it was inside...
Bluetooth was not tested.
And on-screen keyboard didn't have norwegian letters.

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Anyways, it's my understanding that openmoko aims to make Neo Freerunner a phone for Joe consumer, but it's not there yet Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (olefiver) Comments RE[3]: Maybe decent hardware, but: http://osnews.com/thread?322360 http://osnews.com/thread?322360 so give it time. this is unlike nokia and the rest that drop a finished product, and then go on to make the next one and in general wants to avoid having anything more to do with the old one... Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hobgoblin) Comments