OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/20043/Amiga_OS_4_1_Announced Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:21:44 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Here we go again... http://osnews.com/thread?322771 http://osnews.com/thread?322771 1. Dead Horse.
2. Stick.
3. Profit? Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DevL) Comments Why? http://osnews.com/thread?322772 http://osnews.com/thread?322772 As well know, there is no Amiga hardware, and there is not likely to be anytime soon since Amiga Inc. are being complete kill joys. So why is Hyperion doing this? Does anyone have any idea what motive they have? Does this aid their legal case against Amiga Inc. somehow? Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Nycran) Comments AmigaOS 4.1? http://osnews.com/thread?322775 http://osnews.com/thread?322775 The three men and the cow rejoice! Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments RE: Why? http://osnews.com/thread?322780 http://osnews.com/thread?322780 Nycran, please check your inbox (on this site) ;-)

back OT:

Hmmm... It's been more than 18 months, isn't the company that owns the Amiga IP supposed to sell it off so that the cycle can start again? Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rhyder) Comments RE[2]: Why? http://osnews.com/thread?322786 http://osnews.com/thread?322786 By the time AmigaOS 4.1 is out, I'm sure SkyOS will run on some Amiga hardware. Ugh, wait, what Amiga hardware...

Seriously -- I'm not buying anything Amiga-related these days. At least my A500 is comfortably sitting on its desk. Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (alexandru_lz) Comments RE[3]: Why? http://osnews.com/thread?322797 http://osnews.com/thread?322797 "By the time AmigaOS 4.1 is out, I'm sure SkyOS will run on some Amiga hardware. Ugh, wait, what Amiga hardware... "

Even then, SkyOS will still be in beta awaiting a first release ;) Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Isolationist) Comments How about porting it to old PPC Hardware? http://osnews.com/thread?322799 http://osnews.com/thread?322799 I have tons of old Macs here that won't run MacOS X 10.5.

G4's and G3's would be a PERFECT target for an alternate OS that would extend their useful life.

It's amazing how ego keeps AmigaOS and MorphOS off these boxes instead of using good business sense.

But, unfortunately... good business sense and Amiga appear never to show up together.

So many stupid mistakes made in that realm.

It just shows that if you can't market your way out of a paper bag, even having the "best of breed" product won't save you. Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Mage66) Comments Doesn't really matter. http://osnews.com/thread?322829 http://osnews.com/thread?322829 I mean no offense to any Amiga fans in here, but these announcements are redundant, they'll announce it, then nothing will be delivered. It's a waste of time. Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ZacharyM) Comments RE: Doesn't really matter. http://osnews.com/thread?322836 http://osnews.com/thread?322836 What? MorphOS 2.0 was delivered 1 of July. Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (strim) Comments RE: Why? http://osnews.com/thread?322839 http://osnews.com/thread?322839 OS4.1 will work on PPC "classic" Amiga (1200/4000 with a PPC board) on AmigaOne and on the NEW Amiga hardware, SAM 440 mabe by Acube, http://www.acube-systems.biz/eng/index.php Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Cezy) Comments No, AmigaOS 4.1 will not work on the SAM440 http://osnews.com/thread?322845 http://osnews.com/thread?322845 Hello,

If you look at:

http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz:8080/amiga

You'll see that you need an AmigaOne to run it, along with an ATI Graphics card.

Seriously, though, this is a good move on their part. The old Commodore/Amiga HW is getting on in years. The fact that AmigaOS 4.0 came out for it speaks incredibly highly to the tenacity of the Amiga community. I can't name any other machine from that era, save the Atari ST and possibly RiscOS, that has received anything that close to a modern OS for 10+ year old hardware. To put it in Microsoft terms, it would be like having them release Windows Vista for the Pentium MMX with all the features intact.

Hyperion has done an incredible job modernizing AmigaOS. However, there are more features that can be taken advantage to provide a better experience by moving to newer hardware based on G3/G4 processors, ATI graphics cards, modern IDE/SCSI hard drive interfaces, and less hardware to hack (the Amiga PPC accelerators did some very low-level work to even be operational on an Amiga, and I'm sure that code isn't pretty!).

Hopefully, more hardware than the A1 will eventually be supported. Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mbpark) Comments RE[2]: Doesn't really matter. http://osnews.com/thread?322846 http://osnews.com/thread?322846 Too bad MorphOS 2.0 crashes too much for the money they want for it. It would be nice if the demo would run long enought to timeout and not crash out.Edited 2008-07-14 16:23 UTC Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (defrisselle) Comments AROS http://osnews.com/thread?322851 http://osnews.com/thread?322851 Everytime I see comments about the AmigaOS, I said this same stuff:

Why letting alive to that old dinosaur written for a company which do not worry about the customer and which gets full of "blah blah blah" and no facts at all! [ok, almost "at all"].

Long live "AROS"... This project is getting better and getter and shows high signs of life... Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ebasconp) Comments dead horse!!! http://osnews.com/thread?322854 http://osnews.com/thread?322854 DEAD HORSE DEAD HORSE

Show me the HW or shut up... Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sardaukar) Comments It was good while it lasted. http://osnews.com/thread?322862 http://osnews.com/thread?322862 Back in the days, the Amiga was probably the best computer available for the money. It's sad to see that miss management killed the product and it's future.

But here and now, what can you possibly do with an Amiga that you can't do with a PC (Win or Linux) or Mac?

If it's only to play legacy games or software, I would advice on using UAC instead of paying for a old AmigaOne and the OS...

They should at least port the OS to Apple computer, since you can still buy G3/G4/G5 Apple PC (eBay!). Sometime for much less than a simple motherboard (AmigaOne). Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (truckweb) Comments RE: dead horse!!! http://osnews.com/thread?322866 http://osnews.com/thread?322866 /me waves around PPC enabled A1200 and A4000s Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (helf) Comments RE: It was good while it lasted. http://osnews.com/thread?322892 http://osnews.com/thread?322892 Actually, to put it the other way round, there are a lot of current things that you can still do on an old Amiga. I'm not sure if that's the issue. Such a project would have a fair audience among people like myself, who would get one just to play with it, admire the design and have it sit near some 20+-year old Amiga.

Legacy Mac platforms are well served by Linux, I have Gentoo on my iBook G3. It has excellent software support, I don't think AmigaOS would bring anything new to such a platform.

Then again -- right now, I don't think there's a platform for it to bring anything new on. Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (alexandru_lz) Comments RE: Doesn't really matter. http://osnews.com/thread?322954 http://osnews.com/thread?322954 its not for sale- likely in the hope the court case will be completed first- but it has been public showcased several times already. it exists and it works.

i believe you are confusing amigaos4 and hyperion who has actually delivered repeatedly with amigaos5 and amiga who so far has a.. ehm, bad track record at best.

/stone Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (stone) Comments RE[2]: Why? http://osnews.com/thread?323165 http://osnews.com/thread?323165
and on the NEW Amiga hardware, SAM 440 mabe by Acube


Not without a license from Amiga Inc. it won't. Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gleng) Comments RE[2]: Why? http://osnews.com/thread?323177 http://osnews.com/thread?323177
OS4.1 will work on PPC "classic" Amiga (1200/4000 with a PPC board) on AmigaOne and on the NEW Amiga hardware, SAM 440 mabe by Acube, http://www.acube-systems.biz/eng/index.php


Please try again and read the announcement. OS4.1 is only for AmigaOne (for now). Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DJBase) Comments RE[2]: dead horse!!! http://osnews.com/thread?323180 http://osnews.com/thread?323180 I think I'll just stick to finding an Amiga 4000 with Video Toaster. Not sure how much I'd spend getting a PPC-accelerated 1200 or 4000. Either way shipping will cost me an arm and a leg, since I doubt anyone in the Philippines is selling one. Might be some Video Toaster systems still in production use. Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Johann Chua) Comments RE[3]: dead horse!!! http://osnews.com/thread?323182 http://osnews.com/thread?323182 PPC cards for Amiga are expensive these days. You have to spend $800-$1000 or more just for a card if you find one. Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DJBase) Comments