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OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/20180/_Qt_4_5_To_Improve_QtWebKit_QGraphicsView_ Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Thu, 23 May 2013 05:30:19 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Cocoa support as well http://www.osnews.com/thread?326670 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326670 In other news... Qt 4.5 is planned to support Cocoa for both 64-bit and 32-bit apps on Leopard as well. You can get the alphas from here:
http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/06/09/second-cocoa-alpha-relea...

-Yawn... o.o Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (adkilla) Comments QTWebkit? http://www.osnews.com/thread?326675 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326675 is webkit all that good for it to be in QT4.5 an or supported .. i dont think it is IMHO. Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sabz) Comments RE: QTWebkit? http://www.osnews.com/thread?326686 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326686 Why not? Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (segedunum) Comments RE: QTWebkit? http://www.osnews.com/thread?326690 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326690 WebKit is a fine piece of code and a great engine. It actually puts Gecko to shame, as far as the code and engineering goes, and it easily matches Gecko for rendering accuracy and speed.

There is absolutely no reason that it shouldn't be included in Qt or anywhere else. Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Vanders) Comments RE: QTWebkit? http://www.osnews.com/thread?326691 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326691 Webkit is already in Qt 4.4. Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Narishma) Comments RE[2]: QTWebkit? http://www.osnews.com/thread?326701 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326701

WebKit is a fine piece of code and a great engine. It actually puts Gecko to shame, as far as the code and engineering goes, and it easily matches Gecko for rendering accuracy and speed.

There is absolutely no reason that it shouldn't be included in Qt or anywhere else.

Is there any project attempting to combine an XUL browser frontend (that would work with firefox extensions) with a Webkit backend?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xul

That could be interesting IMHO.

is webkit all that good for it to be in QT4.5 an or supported .. i dont think it is IMHO.

Webkit passes acid test 3.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3#Desktop_browsers Edited 2008-08-13 12:55 UTC Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lemur2) Comments RE: QTWebkit? http://www.osnews.com/thread?326737 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326737 Are you thinking about WebKit or KHTML? You do realize that many browsers are switching their backends to Webkit or at least adding an optional Webkit rendering path because it is now an excellent rendering engine and its nightlies are very exciting especially with its new JavaScript engine and HTML 5 support. The only thing Gecko has that is better than Webkit is MathML. As far as I know Webkit has no MathML support currently. Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (asupcb) Comments RE[3]: QTWebkit? http://www.osnews.com/thread?326756 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326756 Interesting idea. In theory WebKit supports everything you'd need for XUL, so I guess it's possible. You'd have to ask the WebKit developers for more a more in depth answer I guess

Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Vanders) Comments RE[2]: QTWebkit? http://www.osnews.com/thread?326778 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326778

Webkit is already in Qt 4.4.

Part of WebKit is already in Qt 4.4. As the port expands more support will be in Qt 4.5. Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tyrione) Comments webkit & Gecko http://www.osnews.com/thread?326808 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326808 if webkit is so much better than Gecko why did Apple Fork it? Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sabz) Comments RE: webkit & Gecko http://www.osnews.com/thread?326813 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326813 I'm getting the impression you don't know what Webkit is.

Apple didn't fork webkit, they forked KHTML which created webkit. Webkit is what Safari is using.

Qt 4.4 has an older version of webkit that they spent a while porting, and it has quite a few limitations. The last I heard, 4.5 was going to update it to the latest trunk code available and be much improved.Edited 2008-08-14 01:05 UTC Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (smitty) Comments RE[2]: webkit & Gecko http://www.osnews.com/thread?326842 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326842

I'm getting the impression you don't know what Webkit is.

Apple didn't fork webkit, they forked KHTML which created webkit. Webkit is what Safari is using.

Qt 4.4 has an older version of webkit that they spent a while porting, and it has quite a few limitations. The last I heard, 4.5 was going to update it to the latest trunk code available and be much improved.

i admit i dont know much about webkit, my undersstanding they did fork webkit an gave it to the Opensource Devs to Make something from it or out of it Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sabz) Comments RE[3]: webkit & Gecko http://www.osnews.com/thread?326849 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326849 No Apple did a code dump on the KHTML people after the initial version of Safari was released and their was much complaining about a lack of code sharing. The KHTML people then complained about just having a heap of code dumped on them and pointed out that they could share code and ideas and speed up things all around. Eventually Apple turned Webkit completely open source. I'm not sure how exactly Webkit and its components are controlled though.

Does anyone know what kind of governance model the Webkit community uses?

Currently, Webkit is a fork of KHTML but they also share some code. KHTML strives to maintain a cleaner design than Apple does so they are quite similar but different. Kind of like the difference between Ubuntu and Debian. (I realize its not a perfect analogy but analogies aren't meant to be perfect.) Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (asupcb) Comments RE[3]: webkit & Gecko http://www.osnews.com/thread?326851 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326851

"I'm getting the impression you don't know what Webkit is. Apple didn't fork webkit, they forked KHTML which created webkit. Webkit is what Safari is using. Qt 4.4 has an older version of webkit that they spent a while porting, and it has quite a few limitations. The last I heard, 4.5 was going to update it to the latest trunk code available and be much improved.

i admit i dont know much about webkit, my undersstanding they did fork webkit an gave it to the Opensource Devs to Make something from it or out of it "

You have got it the wrong way around. KHTML is the origin of the codebase. Webkit and Safari are based on KHTML, not the other way around.

http://www.mozillazine.org/poll_results.html?id=2820
http://dot.kde.org/1041971213/
http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-01-07-022-26-OS...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_(web_browser)#History_and_development

"On January 7, 2003, Steve Jobs announced that Apple had developed their own web browser based on KHTML rendering engine, called Safari. ... Safari uses Apple's WebKit for rendering web pages and running JavaScript. WebKit consists of WebCore (based on Konqueror's KHTML engine) and JavaScriptCore (based on KDE's JavaScript engine named KJS)."

Apple made some improvements to the original KHTML code and were a bit tardy in giving some of those improvements back to KHTML as they were supposed to. It took a bit of reminding to get Apple to do the right thing.

"In June 2005, after some criticism from KHTML developers over lack of access to change logs, Apple moved the development source code and bug tracking of WebCore and JavaScriptCore to OpenDarwin.org. WebKit itself was also released as open source. The source code for non-renderer aspects of the browser, such as its GUI elements, remains proprietary."Edited 2008-08-14 06:20 UTC Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lemur2) Comments RE[4]: webkit & Gecko http://www.osnews.com/thread?326853 http://www.osnews.com/thread?326853

Does anyone know what kind of governance model the Webkit community uses?

This site might help answer your question:

http://webkit.org/

http://webkit.org/coding/commit-review-policy.html Edited 2008-08-14 06:28 UTC Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lemur2) Comments RE: webkit & Gecko http://www.osnews.com/thread?327104 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327104 "if webkit is so much better than Gecko why did Apple Fork it?"

Let's turn that question around (after adjusting it for accuracy).

If Gecko is so much better than (khtml), why did Apple fork (khtml) instead of using Gecko?

The answer is out there (Apple gave it when announcing Safari), just go find it instead of fumbling around misunderstanding the issue. Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MamiyaOtaru) Comments