OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/20199/Intel_Gives_turbo_Boost_to_Nehalem Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:44:46 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Mulit vs single threaded http://osnews.com/thread?327459 http://osnews.com/thread?327459 I just wonder what will happen when we all gonna have 16-way machines (8 core x 2 threads ?) on our desktops...

It is actually a good way to balance between multi and single threaded performance. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (magick) Comments RE: Mulit vs single threaded http://osnews.com/thread?327460 http://osnews.com/thread?327460 sorry but i just can't ressist ;) from my experience i can tell that if i'll be using some MS OS it'll be just as slow as vista is now. remember those "what intel gave us, microsoft took from us" articles? ;) no flaming but the problem is if i use vista on my 2.4 GHz core2duo it feels just like ME on my old 400MHz Pentium II no matter if use those sassy glass window frames or notEdited 2008-08-20 18:51 UTC Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (frantisheq) Comments RE[2]: Mulit vs single threaded http://osnews.com/thread?327462 http://osnews.com/thread?327462
remember those "what intel gave us, microsoft took from us" articles? ;)


It doesn't work like that. It's all about creating new needs. You want to sell your new products. This is where Vista comes in handy. I'll hazard a guess: these new CPUs are designed to work with Windows 7. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (satan666) Comments RE[2]: Mulit vs single threaded http://osnews.com/thread?327463 http://osnews.com/thread?327463 Something is seriously wrong with your P.C.

I use Linux/*BSD/*Solaris/Windows and yes even vista and I dont see it running slow. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (justinc) Comments RE[3]: Mulit vs single threaded http://osnews.com/thread?327464 http://osnews.com/thread?327464 i agree but in case of MS i'm glad i don't need it and hopefully never will. in case i will "need" their OS i'll return to the cave and sell my comp Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (frantisheq) Comments RE[3]: Mulit vs single threaded http://osnews.com/thread?327465 http://osnews.com/thread?327465 lucky you but i expected new computer to run faster that's why i bought it. thx god for hackintosh.

ok enough because this will end up as flaming no matter how i try to avoid it ;)

PS: i'm also on XP, *Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OS and no problems with speed, no HDD doing something all the time, no full 2G memory. tried server 2008 as desktop os and i have to say i like it more compared to vista

sorry for my englishEdited 2008-08-20 19:38 UTC Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (frantisheq) Comments wow, you mean like http://osnews.com/thread?327467 http://osnews.com/thread?327467 what BeOS did years ago (but manually) with the buttons on the Pulse app ? ;) Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mmu_man) Comments RE: wow, you mean like http://osnews.com/thread?327468 http://osnews.com/thread?327468 mmm BeOS speedy gonzales ;) Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (frantisheq) Comments RE[2]: wow, you mean like http://osnews.com/thread?327469 http://osnews.com/thread?327469 No, it makes Speedy Gonzales look like Regular Gonzales. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments RE[3]: wow, you mean like http://osnews.com/thread?327470 http://osnews.com/thread?327470 :D Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (frantisheq) Comments RE: wow, you mean like http://osnews.com/thread?327471 http://osnews.com/thread?327471
what BeOS did years ago (but manually) with the buttons on the Pulse app ? ;)


Except (and I admit I didn't read the article) it sounds like they're boosting the performance on the remaining cores by channeling the power from the ones that are disabled (i.e., boosting single-threaded processing slightly while using the same amount of total power?) Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (umccullough) Comments RE[4]: Mulit vs single threaded http://osnews.com/thread?327484 http://osnews.com/thread?327484 I think you are full of crap and read an article about Vista over a year and a half ago and that is what you are using for your "experience" on the OS.

I use ultimate 32 and my hard drive is not churning away all the time. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (modmans2ndcoming) Comments RE[5]: Mulit vs single threaded http://osnews.com/thread?327485 http://osnews.com/thread?327485 :D cool it down kiddo. i've seen vista/microsoft maniacs like you before and i won't fight with you ppl. you're just too dangerous to you and ppl around you. i knew it was a mistake to register on OS NEWS after all those years Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (frantisheq) Comments RE[5]: Mulit vs single threaded http://osnews.com/thread?327489 http://osnews.com/thread?327489 You must be lying or deaf then. I have a new machine running Vista, I'm sitting next to it as I type this post. Nothing is running on the machine but my browser, but it is pinging on the hard drive about once every second or two. Very annoying.

I use OS X and Linux mostly, FreeBSD and OpenBSD on some servers I run, and Vista when I'm on my wife's computer. Vista is by far the lardiest of the systems. It just can't seem to get its fat butt going. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Clinton) Comments Turbo button! http://osnews.com/thread?327495 http://osnews.com/thread?327495 For a minute I thought we were going to see the comeback of the good old Turbo button. The fancy digital display that used to show the cpu frequency could now show how many cores are active. Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Ventajou) Comments RE: Turbo button! http://osnews.com/thread?327499 http://osnews.com/thread?327499 I am sure some case accessories company will create a digital display so you know what is happening. They might even include a button that interfaces with software installed in Windows to manually control this feature. (if at all possible). Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (John Blink) Comments spynode http://osnews.com/thread?327504 http://osnews.com/thread?327504 good'ol slashdot flamin' Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (spynode) Comments RE[6]: Mulit vs single threaded http://osnews.com/thread?327506 http://osnews.com/thread?327506 Vistas Indexing is quite different than that of the past, it does it when load is low, and if you have alot of files it may constantly be looking around, whereas linux and such is usually scheduled for a certain timeframe (eg 3:00am or whatever you set) It really shouldent bother performance much, and if its annoying then you either have a loud drive, or a very bright indicator light (my raptor barely whispers so it doesnt usually catch my eye) The only way I even notice its doing this is if im actually looking for it. other than that it doesnt really seem to mess with things.

Likewise my roommate has a blue beacon of madness flickering off the front of his case, and running vista bothered him quite a bit because of that. Couple that with an old noisy hdd and I can see the point. Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hollovoid) Comments RE[2]: wow, you mean like http://osnews.com/thread?327510 http://osnews.com/thread?327510
"what BeOS did years ago (but manually) with the buttons on the Pulse app ? ;)


Except (and I admit I didn't read the article) it sounds like they're boosting the performance on the remaining cores by channeling the power from the ones that are disabled (i.e., boosting single-threaded processing slightly while using the same amount of total power?) "

Correct. For example, in a 6x 1.6 GHz CPU, they could turn off 4 of the cores, use some of the saved power to overclock the remaining two cores to 1.8 or 2.0 GHz, and get faster performance with less overall power usage. Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (phoenix) Comments The Likes of Oracle & IBM must be grinning http://osnews.com/thread?327513 http://osnews.com/thread?327513 at the thought of all that lovely per Core(or two) Software Licensing money that is about to literally fall into their laps. With the advent of huge multicore CPU's their pricing models seem to be outdated buy probably unlikely to change soon.

This issue is what almost scuppered a deal last year where the software costs just became silly when a dual chip Quad core system was specified. They ended up with a dual core box instead for one software component. It is running at 70=90% CPU Load all day while the rest ran easily (10-20% cpu) on the 8core beast sitting next to it in the server room.
For example,
An 8 core system running Oracle 11g Enterprise requires 4 CPU Licenses which is 4x$47K + $10K per annum Update and support. Compare that to the cost of the hardware and you groan, shrug your shoulders and look for a different solution.
The data used above was taken from http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pricing/technology-price-list.pdf

The hardware cost (ironically from IBM)was approx 1/10th of the Oracle Software license.
Its a funny old world isn't it.... Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (shotsman) Comments RE[7]: Mulit vs single threaded http://osnews.com/thread?327519 http://osnews.com/thread?327519 Yes! I do have one of those blue LEDs that are as pleasant as a sharp jab to the eye with a stiff carrot. I think Vista is annoying for myriad other reasons though. Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Clinton) Comments RE: Turbo button! http://osnews.com/thread?327521 http://osnews.com/thread?327521 Ventajou: same thing I was thinking ;) I guess remembering the *original* turbo button makes us old now...sigh. I think the last system I had that had one was a 486/33. The turbo button cut it down to 16. Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (AdamW) Comments RE: Turbo button! http://osnews.com/thread?327526 http://osnews.com/thread?327526 At the end of the day, the Turbo button was good for consumers. It gave them the feeling they were getting something great. The computer was noticeably "faster" with the Turbo on (despite the fact the whole situation was in fact reversed)

Consumers will believe just about anything if it's put out in front of them and they surmise what it does themselves.

This is why, even through regular consumers don't know any of the technical details at all, there's a widespread disdain for Vista because to them, it's not the same as they're used to, and therefore can't be as good.

Pleasing a consumer is a genuinely difficult thing. Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kroc) Comments The old turbo button http://osnews.com/thread?327533 http://osnews.com/thread?327533 The cool thing about the old turbo button was the case manufacturers never knew which processor you were going to use so you could change the display. Mine said "HI". Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bolomkxxviii) Comments RE[6]: Mulit vs single threaded http://osnews.com/thread?327581 http://osnews.com/thread?327581 You think I am a MS freak?

that is hilarious since I used Vista, OS X, and Ubuntu at home.

I am not an MS apologist, I simply can't stand people spewing crap. Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (modmans2ndcoming) Comments RE[7]: Mulit vs single threaded http://osnews.com/thread?327593 http://osnews.com/thread?327593 pls i really don't want to fight with anyone here. i was just talking about my really bad experience with vista contra all other OS's i'm using. i'm not the first nor the last one. maybe it's because my comp maybe it's because ppl around me always say they want XP not vista i don't know just forget it Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (frantisheq) Comments