OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/20217/21_of_the_Best_Free_Linux_Text_Editors Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 21 May 2013 16:35:32 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com No Joe?? http://www.osnews.com/thread?327937 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327937 I wonder why Joe isn't in this list? It's installed by default in Slackware, which is where I know it from. It's basic, sure, but it's not much different from nano. I used to use it so much that I'd find myself hitting ^KX (save and close) in other editors simply out of habit. Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Morgan) Comments Only 21? http://www.osnews.com/thread?327940 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327940 Hehe - if you try each editor out for a day, what are you meant to do after three weeks? Start from the start of the list again, or write your own editor? :-) Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Brendan) Comments Cons? http://www.osnews.com/thread?327941 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327941 Lots of features (pros) listed, no cons. Kompozer for example has a habit of crashing whenever I want it to print. It's usable otherwise (as in, "I haven't yet encountered any other catastrophic bugs"). Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jack_perry) Comments RE: Cons? http://www.osnews.com/thread?327947 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327947 I recently tried Kompozer on Windows, and this program is ass. Even for a price tag of free, it still isn't worth it. The very fact that many of the 'Linux alternatives to Windows' lists have this as an alternative to Dreamweaver is the very reason why I don't take any of these lists seriously.

Then again, I guess REAL html developers use vi ;) Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (WorknMan) Comments 21 versions of Vim? http://www.osnews.com/thread?327948 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327948 What? There is 21 versions of Vim for Linux?! Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (aliquis) Comments Completely useless article http://www.osnews.com/thread?327951 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327951 Nobody really needed such an article. I mean, of course there are plenty of editors out there, and whenever you need one you will have one.

And in the end it all boils down to: if vim and emacs are too much for you to learn, pick and editor from your K- or Gnomemenu and be happy with it. Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (stepardo_) Comments vi http://www.osnews.com/thread?327955 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327955 As a sysadmin, vi is a real gem. The right tool for the right job.

vi ftw


:wq Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (yanik) Comments Honk! Honk! http://www.osnews.com/thread?327958 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327958 vim über alles! Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Weeman) Comments TextMate http://www.osnews.com/thread?327968 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327968 What, is there an alternative for vim? ;) Though, I'd still like to have TextMate on Linux/BSD as well. Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (danieldk) Comments ;-O http://www.osnews.com/thread?327969 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327969 No emacs fans on osnews? Looks like i'm all alone... Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (broken_symlink) Comments Gedit! http://www.osnews.com/thread?327970 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327970 Currently using Gedit, having dumped IDEs like Eclipse. Feels okay except double click select is broken. Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (benhonghu) Comments He missed all three of the editors I use. http://www.osnews.com/thread?327977 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327977 He didn't include NEdit, FTE, or PICO. And Midnight Commander's internal editor is actually what I tend to use for quick-and-dirty editing in both Solaris and Linux these days. So he missed four.

Of course, there are so many text editor choices that it would be hard to miss someone's favorite, but NEdit is a rather major (and to me surprising) omission...Edited 2008-08-26 16:24 UTC Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rcsteiner) Comments RE: He missed all three of the editors I use. http://www.osnews.com/thread?327979 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327979 ...and nedit is available on LOTS of platforms where few of the others are -- AIX or Solaris, for example... Some of us live in a multi-platform universe. And have trouble getting our heads around emacs ;-( . Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (cjcoats) Comments medit http://www.osnews.com/thread?327993 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327993 wot no medit Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (chemical_scum) Comments RE: He missed all three of the editors I use. http://www.osnews.com/thread?327995 http://www.osnews.com/thread?327995 I don't think it's all that suprising to not include NEdit, since the last NEdit release came in 2004 and it still uses Motif toolkit.
So since NEdit hasn't got any release presscoverage for 4 years and uses a, in comparison to others, outdated toolkit, I'd be suprised if the author had even heard of NEdit ;)

But NEdit should be on the list, great as it certainly is.

btw, he does include nano and specifies that nano is a clone of PICOEdited 2008-08-26 17:22 UTC Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (olefiver) Comments RE: ;-O http://www.osnews.com/thread?328006 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328006 People seem to be using Vim a lot more these days, even though emacs is clearly better.

I use nano for everyday things (e.g. config files), and emacs when I'm doing development. Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hurdboy) Comments mcedit http://www.osnews.com/thread?328007 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328007 For beginners / newbies to the CLI, mcedit is very easy to use. And it suports syntax highlighting, too.

I use vi to edit configuration files, Geany for programming and complex search and replace, and Gedit for quick and dirty notes. Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (evert) Comments Because 20 text editors http://www.osnews.com/thread?328021 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328021 ... just simply isn't enough. An even 2 dozen would be even better! It's all about choice, baby! Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rockwell) Comments RE[2]: Cons? http://www.osnews.com/thread?328028 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328028 Kompozer is just a stand-alone version of an old version of Mozilla Composer. If anybody wants such a program for Linux, I strongly suggest the latest SeaMonkey release. Its composer is not stand-alone but at least updated frequently. Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (KAMiKAZOW) Comments RE: He missed all three of the editors I use. http://www.osnews.com/thread?328029 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328029 Sorry, didn't read your post to the end. You said that nano is a clone of pico.Edited 2008-08-26 19:51 UTC Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (KAMiKAZOW) Comments RE[2]: ;-O http://www.osnews.com/thread?328031 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328031 Try Zile for everyday things. Super light emacs. ;)

http://www.gnu.org/software/zile/ Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wowtip) Comments How many Linux text editors... http://www.osnews.com/thread?328032 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328032 How many Linux text editors does it take to change a light-bulb?
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None! A light bulb is a closed, proprietary, non-free system. Users of Gnu/Linux only use candles. You can:

0. Use the candle for any purpose, such as such as providing light for one of you eleven homes.

1. You are free to study the candle and modify it for your own use - perhaps add a cheeseburger scent!

2. You are free to give your candle, or a copy of your candle to your neighbor, although it probably shouldn't look like Richard Stallman.

3. You are free to improve the candle, and distribute your new and improved version to the world. Unfortunately you must be aware that Amazon has patented the "one-wick" system, and you may be prohibited from using a candle in your Windows Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fretinator) Comments RE: No Joe?? http://www.osnews.com/thread?328035 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328035 plus-plus

JOE is my fav. command line editor. Horribly oversimplifying, I find EMACS too heavy, VI too minimalist, PICO/NANO too limited, but JOE is "just right." Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments RE[2]: ;-O http://www.osnews.com/thread?328038 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328038
People seem to be using Vim a lot more these days, even though emacs is clearly better.

Better at everything other than actually editing text files, maybe. Although I suck at using both, I find that vim is much more my style, and stays true to the UNIX spirit: to do one thing, and do it well. I don't know why they haven't come out with an entire OS based on emacs yet. While I don't have the motivation to learn either one completely, I already know that for me, vim would be more comfortable for me to use.

I tend to stick with nano, mcedit or joe when on the command line, and Leafpad/Mousepad, gedit, or Geany when in a GUI. I recall kate being nice but, well, I don't use KDE or Qt-based apps (just switched from Xfce to Gnome), so I don't use it.

On Windows? Nothing beats good ol' metapad. I actually missed that app quite a bit when I first moved to Linux. It's basically someone's reinvention of Notepad, meaning very small, lightweight and similar in looks, and it contains many extra features including proper support for UNIX text... and being primarily on Linux machines these days, UNIX-text support is even more important now than I first started using metapad. It's pretty bad that Microsoft refuses to include such a trivial feature in such an antique program it *still* ships with its new operating systems. Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (UltraZelda64) Comments Notepad++ http://www.osnews.com/thread?328061 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328061 Do you know if is there a port of Notepad++ to *NIX?
Notepad++ is a great text editor.

By the way, does someone know if there is a way to:
* Setting up Kate to support tabs [like KDevelop or Notepad++]

* Setting up KAte to show the FS tree in the left? [like Notepad++] ? Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ebasconp) Comments RE: No Joe?? http://www.osnews.com/thread?328093 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328093
I wonder why Joe isn't in this list?


Joe's Own Editor (joe) is the first editor I used when I started programming on x86, starting with Skaclware, and using FreeBSD today. Joe has developed many good features over the time and is still one of my favourite editors. The command "save and exit", ^KX, has even developed into a synonym for "good bye" or "see ya" at the end of a mail or IRC / IM conversation here. :-) While providing high quality and functionality (^KE / ^KR, ^TD and the ^KB/KK/KM/KC/KY set of commands, especially the ability to resize the edit buffer), joe is still to be considered as a small program, it doesn't consume much ressources.

Then I did use robotron computers in the GDR, one famous program was TP (Text Processor), which was a re-implementation of Wordstar. So the most commands of joe made me wonder where I knew them from.

And I thought I'd be the only person using this editor... =^_^= Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Doc Pain) Comments RE: He missed all three of the editors I use. http://www.osnews.com/thread?328094 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328094
And Midnight Commander's internal editor is actually what I tend to use for quick-and-dirty editing in both Solaris and Linux these days. So he missed four.


Same here, too, at least for the Midnight Commander's editor, mcedit. I even use it for HTML hacks and even ragularly for LaTeX documents. For me, one of the essential tools on a UNIX system (FreeBSD and Solaris here). Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Doc Pain) Comments RE: How many Linux text editors... http://www.osnews.com/thread?328119 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328119 4. If you need light bulbs you're clearly a noob and will be shouted down by zealots. Candles are just the same as light bulbs, so who needs light bulbs anyway?
5. Don't bother complaining that your candle gets blown out. It works for us so it should work for you. Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (evangs) Comments no mousepad? http://www.osnews.com/thread?328120 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328120 They forgot about Mousepad... I love it though. Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Dryhte) Comments Plan 9 - Sam? http://www.osnews.com/thread?328124 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328124 Anyone tried Sam? The editor of Plan 9? Many of the old gurus, Stroustrup, Kernighan etc seems to have switched to Sam. I wonder why. Is it that good? Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kebabbert) Comments RE: No Joe?? http://www.osnews.com/thread?328152 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328152 Yeah - joe and/or ee were what I used to setup for people who needed to do editing from the cli but didn't want to learn vi(m). That was quite a while ago, though - probably 6+ years. I haven't given either of them much of a thought in ages, and it seems that nano is the current darling of the cli-unclued. Or at least it's what all of the *bunutu tutorials reference when they aren't referencing gedit. Maybe a better way to put that is it's the easy-though-feature-lacking ubiquitous cmd line editor, these days. Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zombie process) Comments RE: Notepad++ http://www.osnews.com/thread?328158 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328158 Yes, you can do both of those. In Kate from KDE 4, you have to do Settings -> configure kate -> Application/plugins, and enable Tab Bar and Filesystem Browser. ( http://djn.homeunix.net/bilder/kate/ , if you want illustrations.)

In the version of Kate from KDE 3 I have here, the file system browser is enabled by default, but the tab bar isn't in the plugins list. I know I've used it once, though, so it does exist ... somewhere. Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dnebdal) Comments RE[2]: Cons? http://www.osnews.com/thread?328166 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328166 I'm quite surprised by that comparison being made. Kompozer (I take it this is what used to be called N|VU?) has not 1% of the power of Dreamweaver, and any list that suggests this is the closest you can get to it on Linux is undermining the OS's credibility for web designers/developers.

I only used it or Bluefish for short periods, so feel free to disagree with this, but I choose Quanta+ as the nearest rival to DW. It still lacks a lot of the polish of Dreamweaver, but the UI is sanely organised and (as we expect from any KDE app) insanely tweakable so you can get it just right for your workflow. Project organisation features are well implemented, and the ability to work transparently on remote files (good old KIOslaves) is very neat and means you needn't have a whole copy of the project files on your local machine.

Extensibility is something that could be worked on a bit, to get nearer Dreamweaver's standard. The foundation is there: modules like KFileReplace, Kompare, KLinkStatus and KXSLDebug can be slotted-in, and AFAIK a simple API exists for integrating other external apps in this manner, and there's massive potential for workflow automation and GUI extension using Kommander scripts, but sadly there are virtually no scripts available that I know of. I'd love to see a well-stocked and well-publicised 'Quanta scripts' repository on kde-apps.org, hooked into a KHotNewStuff applet within the program, as seen in Amarok and Superkaramba.

Quanta is already a killer app for me, but it would have broader appeal if it had its own extension community (even commercial as well as OSS) like Dreamweaver has. Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Havin_it) Comments RE: Completely useless article http://www.osnews.com/thread?328170 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328170 I'm not sure if your second paragraph is your synopsis of the article or your own opinion; if it's the latter, I have to say that's rather simplistic. Many people can benefit from a little guidance in choosing from the dizzying range of editors available, and the choice is not as simple as choosing between a keyboard-shortcut-tastic console editor or your DE's standard Notepad clone. That barely scratches the surface.

Personally, I need a lightweight GUI editor that supports multiple documents, syntax highlighting/completion and DOS-format files, but doesn't depend on a whole DE, and is lean enough to be responsive when X-forwarded over an ADSL (or even dialup) line. Vim/Emacs or gedit/kwrite don't fit that bill, but scite does. (In the absence of a guide like this, I spent quite a while trialling all the editors available in my package manager before reaching my choice.)

I also want a console editor for quick'n'dirty edits, without needing to spend a day figuring out the keyboard shortcuts to save and close it afterwards. Step forward nano. I have still other editors for other tasks.

My point is, if you're going to be doing a lot of work with a text-editor, you save a lot of bother by selecting one that best fits your needs, which may be very specific. Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Havin_it) Comments RE: vi http://www.osnews.com/thread?328175 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328175 I tried a few of the editors on that list but I just can't get my head out of vi(m) mode.

I've been using it for a few years now and I learn something new every week.

:wq

:x (or ZZ in command mode!) Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lydgate) Comments RE: 21 versions of Vim? http://www.osnews.com/thread?328182 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328182 Amen to that!

vim + ctags (actually, large collection of different ctags thrown around in different places) + custom syntax rules for C.

How can anyone use something else is beyond me ;)

Heck, I even used vim to write this text (EditSourceWith) and my Firefox is
using a vim-like interface (vimperator)

- Gilboa Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gilboa) Comments RE[3]: Cons? http://www.osnews.com/thread?328185 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328185
I only used it or Bluefish for short periods, so feel free to disagree with this, but I choose Quanta+ as the nearest rival to DW.


AFAIK, Quanta+ is not a WYSIWYG editor. If that is the case, then you're really comparing apples to oranges. Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (WorknMan) Comments RE[4]: Cons? http://www.osnews.com/thread?328195 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328195 Quanta+ does have a WYSIWYG editing mode, it's called VPL Editor (not sure what it stands for, but I'll guess it's not visible panty line). I don't really use it as I prefer hand-coding; using Dreamweaver (back in '02) taught me a healthy disrespect for WYSIWYG editors, I prefer to see exactly what's going on beneath.

When I did use it, on a page with some javascript, it crashed; then again, the same thing happened with N|VU ;-) Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Havin_it) Comments Emacs http://www.osnews.com/thread?328226 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328226 That article is superfluous. Emacs has it all. Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wobster) Comments Vim, gedit and sometimes kile http://www.osnews.com/thread?328308 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328308 I do a lot of maths programming (simulation of populations and disease etc.), and writing of mathematical papers. I usually use vim for everything, but sometimes I use gedit when I'm feeling lazy, and I usually write my LaTeX in kile. When I'm working on a remote server there's no substitute for vim.

I'll readily admit that vim can be intimidating, but once you learn the basics, you can work really quickly. I have RSI, so I can't really use a mouse. I tried emacs a few times, but it hurt my wrists too much, and I really didn't like it. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (spaceLem) Comments RE[2]: vi http://www.osnews.com/thread?328312 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328312
I tried a few of the editors on that list but I just can't get my head out of vi(m) mode.

I've been using it for a few years now and I learn something new every week.

":wq

:x (or ZZ in command mode!) "

It's embarrassing how often I try to :x out of a terminal.

The two things that annoy me about vim is that ctrl-left or ctrl-right does something other than what I'm expecting, but that's what 'w' and 'b' are for. Also that any standard keyboard has a capslock and an escape key the wrong way round. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (spaceLem) Comments RE[3]: vi http://www.osnews.com/thread?328342 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328342
It's embarrassing how often I try to :x out of a terminal.

I've just done alias :x=exit ;) Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lydgate) Comments editor omissions http://www.osnews.com/thread?328344 http://www.osnews.com/thread?328344 I'll admit right off the bat, I'm not really a *nixer as most people here. Still, sometimes good editors work on both sides of the fence. I'll just list a few that haven't been mentioned yet that I like (at least in theory if not practice too):

TDE, FED, Mined, SETEDIT, mbedit, VILE (and XVI, NVI, SteVIe, Elvis, etc.), ZED, JASSPA MicroEmacs, etc. etc. etc. :-)) Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Rugxulo) Comments